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    So here's my story, briefly - I wanted to dance, but was terrifically nervous. I finally went and did an amateur night at a smaller club in town.. just me and one other girl. She won, but we both got offered the job. I just had to go get my license before coming in to sign paperwork..
    So I got my license and the next day stopped by another (larger) club in town to see my friend who dances there. I've known her for years and years, and I trust her more than almost anyone. First thing she says to me is "I heard you contracted at _____!" I said no, not yet... she says "Well DON'T!" and goes on to explain that the money isn't nearly as good there, and there's way more sketchy shit going on. I talked at length with her, and with one of the managers I know also.. between the two of them I was convinced to work at the bigger club. I signed my contract this morning and I start this Saturday!
    It's going to be brutal, because I already work full time, so theoretically I won't have a day off.. like.. ever. I know that isn't realistic, so I'm basically just waiting to see how dancing goes for me so I can either step down at my day job (I'm a manager) or quit altogether. Who knows.
    I'm excited though.. the manager told me Saturday is probably gonna be crazy - beginning of the football season plus two major conventions in town, one is for cigars (?) and apparently brings hella rich guys. Soooooo I'm diving in headfirst and hopefully I can make some money and learn as I go.
    I'm less nervous about stage and more nervous about lapdances/champagne rooms.. I've been on the receiving end of many a lapdance, but since I'm a hot girl who likes girls, I usually get a LOT more action than a guy. Of course I've just heard you gotta do it and figure it out as you go, so that's what I'm gonna do, but if anyone has words of encouragement or advice, I'd appreciate it.
    My schedule is gonna be Sat/Sun/Mon so I'm hoping to make some decent money once I figure out what I'm doing.
    Just wanted to babble about all this, and I'll definitely update after my first shift

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    Default Re: starting on a busy Saturday!

    Is your friend going to be working on Saturday? If she's cool with it, maybe she can give you a few tips early on in the night to help you get used to things. I'd recommend going in early too, before it starts to get busy, so you can acclimatize yourself to the setting and not just be overwhelmed by a huge crowd of people. Then you can sell a few dances, go up on stage, and feel ready for the night! Best of luck!

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    Default Re: starting on a busy Saturday!

    I'm opening, so that should be a little less crazy, though the manager still expected it to be busy. My friend is night shift but said she might try to come in early to see how I'm doing, etc. If I'm not positively annihilated at the end of the shift I may try to stay later just to get the feel of a busy night shift. But I imagine my muscles and brain will feel like Jello LOL

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    Okay, you said you were nervous about lap dances/champagne rooms.

    I work in a club that is fully nude and doesn't serve alcohol, but I've worked in several clubs that serve alcohol for varying amounts of time (1 day-2 months). I'd say I've worked at 6 clubs that serve alcohol.

    Anyhow, I'll try to walk you through lap dances and champagne rooms. My first sale ever was a VIP room (similar to a champagne room but without champagne)!

    Lap dances:
    Once you get a customer to agree to buy a lap dance then you'll take him to where the dances are given (unless they are given on the floor or a table). Some clubs require that you wait until the next song starts to begin dancing, but other upscale clubs have machines that time your dances (such as Barely Legal in New Orleans). In some clubs you can begin dancing immediately if you have a set house fee and they don't count your dances. If you have to wait, make sure you tell them why you are waiting to begin dancing, and try to upsell during this period. Offer them champagne rooms (or introduce them to the idea), or you can offer them a deal or straight up hustle them. Your club's rules will dictate which of these options you can use. Some clubs do not allow you to offer deals or overcharge for dances, but most clubs with a set house fee won't care what you do.

    Upselling before the dance begins:
    You should know if the customer has been to your club before. If you don't ask. If he has been there before then say "Did you get to play in our champagne room last time you visited?". If he hasn't been there before then say "Oooh! So then I can be the first girl to take you in our naughty rooms". If he is immediately interested he may say "forget the dance, let's go in there" or he may say "let's see how the dance goes". Tell him that the dance will be your audition for the private room.

    Offering a deal before the dance begins: If your dances are $25 then you can say I'll give you 4 for $90! If the club is busy then there's no reason to offer a deal like this. I would recommend using this line only if the guy seems hesitant to do the CR and doesn't seem like he's going to get a bunch of dances. You can also say this after the second song when you ask him if he wants to keep going. Make sure that your club allows you to offer deals.

    Overcharging before the dance begins: Perhaps the most effective tool for me, personally. If you are comfortable with a customer touching you then you can double the price of the dance. Example: "Dances are normally $20, but for $40 you can touch anything but my vagina". Most customers will jump on this opportunity, and if you work at a club that takes a cut of every dance this is a great way to compensate for that. My club doesn't condone this, but they technically can't stop it since it is considered a "tip" for touching. I would advise you to check your club's policy on touching and the local laws about prostitution to make sure that a customer touching you is not prostitution. In a table dance/air dance club then this method won't work as easily.

    Giving the lap dance: When you first start and have no experience just remember "slow is sexy". You don't need to pop your ass like Missy Elliot or move your hips like Shakira. Begin by straddling the customer (if your club is a standard 2-way contact grinding club) and then move your hips forward and back. Similar to having sex, but not quite. You can gradually add variations like breathing on his neck, running your fingers through his hair, or giving him a raunchy show. I personally don't like having my face near a customer's (although I have no issues with prolonged eye contact) because it is too personal for me. I'd rather just give them a raunchy show because I feel more disconnected from what I'm doing when I know they're just staring at my naughty bits.

    Champagne Rooms:
    Are essentially a prolonged lap dance with champagne and some schmoozing. You shouldn't expect to dance for an hour straight. I always tell customers I need about two 5 minute breaks during an hour where we'll just sit and chat with me on his lap. I have hip dysplasia and a bad knee from an accident at work so I can't dance for an hour continuously. You can use the champagne as an excuse to take a break. Say "gosh I'm thirsty from all this fun! Let's have a drink and toast to the night". Be classy, ask him to pour your drink, declare a toast, and sip slowly. You don't want to get drunk in the Champagne Room. Some guys will try to get you drunk in the hopes that you'll loosen up--don't fall for this. If you feel yourself drinking too much then tell him you're ready to get back on his lap. If he pushes the issue then tell him you have to drive home or that you'll get in trouble if you are drunk at work. If he is super persistent (as some drunk men are) then tell him you can't drink for a while, but that you'll have another drink with him after the CR. Whether or not you do that is your decision, you can make an excuse and say your manager is calling for you. You should never consume alcohol if you don't want to or are at your limit.

    I hope this helps!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Laurisa View Post
    Offering a deal before the dance begins: If your dances are $25 then you can say I'll give you 4 for $90! If the club is busy then there's no reason to offer a deal like this. I would recommend using this line only if the guy seems hesitant to do the CR and doesn't seem like he's going to get a bunch of dances. You can also say this after the second song when you ask him if he wants to keep going. Make sure that your club allows you to offer deals.
    I really wouldn't encourage "offering deals" like that since you're undercutting both yourself and the other dancers. Know your worth, and expect customers to respect that as well. If you start giving deals, they won't want to pay full price from you again. Not to mention the other girls will get pissed when they find out you're doing it since you're playing dirty.

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    ^^Plenty of clubs offer deals regularly, including mine.

    I'm not undercutting myself by offering a deal to entice the customer to buy more. I have had countless times when a customer bought 2 dances for $30 and then spent another $200 on me. The intro deal is a teaser rate, if you will. Much like Comcast's $19.99/month for Home Phone for SIX months, then the real rate of $24.99 kicks in.

    When the club is slow and guys aren't buying you have to make decisions. Is this 2 for $30 the only thing I'm going to get my mitts on right now? If there are 50 guys spending money then don't do it, obviously, but money making is about evaluating the situation. I am not playing dirty by telling him "if you buy X amount of dances you get X discount". I'm making him buy a certain amount in order to have the deal kick in. I have never just walked up to a guy randomly and said "hey, want a $10 dance?". It's always "buy X and save X". If you want to make $100 then tell him to buy 6 dances for $100. etc. etc.

    I could care less what other girls think. They also get mad that I charge double for dances for touching, but I'm the one counting $800 when they made $250. They can fuck off, and the club appreciates that I'm busy and keep the customers coming back.

    Furthermore, I have given discounted dances to customers and then had them buy regular priced dances later that night or a different day, several times. The deal dances are a spur of the moment thing offered by the club. I have offered deals privately when I had no better options. Most of the time I've overcharging, not discounting.
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    I really appreciate your advice, Laurisa! This club is full nude but we're not allowed to be nude during lapdances. There's no alcohol in our club either, which is a relief to me because I am a pretty serious drinker usually. Plenty of girls (and customers!) drink before coming in, but i already decided that if I can't do this job sober it isn't for Mr.
    I'm about to get on the bus in ten minutes so here it goes! Ill check back in tonight :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laurisa View Post
    Offering a deal before the dance begins: If your dances are $25 then you can say I'll give you 4 for $90! If the club is busy then there's no reason to offer a deal like this. I would recommend using this line only if the guy seems hesitant to do the CR and doesn't seem like he's going to get a bunch of dances. You can also say this after the second song when you ask him if he wants to keep going. Make sure that your club allows you to offer deals.
    Please don't do this. Undercutting is a serious problem in the industry and the last thing that you want to do is become a "discount dancer". For all you know, the customer will spend full price on you and putting the idea in his head is just not good business.

    a while ago I was working at a club where a lot of girls did discounts. They would do hours for 120$ and 3 for 50$ and I guess 2 for 30$. One day a guy said to me "how about 2 for 30$?" and I said "how about 2 for 40$" and he agreed. I then went on to make 100$ off of him. Guys will pay and if they don't, take your dignity and move on.
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    ^^You keep ignoring the fact that I work in a Deja Vu where deal dances are the norm.

    Again, as I said before, I will overcharge long before I cut a deal--but because deal dances are the norm during showtimes in Deja Vu type clubs these "2 for 30's" happen. It's suppose to entice the customer to buy more.

    If it is a slow night then offering a deal dance is a good way to get money out of cheap guys. I don't care who disagrees, there is a time and a place for deal dances.
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    ^You didn't really specify that in your post though. Like if the deals are orchestrated by the club then yeah, do them, since they're pretty well expected and encouraged. But if you work in a club with just set prices where it's $20 a dance and that's it, don't start offering deals just of your own accord like that. Clubs can vary so much!

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