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    Sorry for the novel, just sharing my experience...

    So after weeks/months of debating whether or not to dance, I finally went to a club this afternoon to at least try it out. The manager said I could start work immediately. So I hit the floor about 7. I learned how the club works, met a couple of the dancers, management was super nice.

    Anyway, I think it was kind of a dive. Lots of rolly-polly girls and neon everywhere. It was pretty dead...just a couple of men watching football and a group of drunk rednecks that weren't spending. One older guy was all excited about me being new and took me for a dance. I know I was totally awkward, but he said it was very good for a beginner. He had to leave, though, so I went back on the floor and tried making small talk with other custies. Then it was my turn on stage. LOL I don't even remember what I danced to, I was so nervous. I felt okay, but I know my transitions were awkward. The bartender said it was great for a newbie, and that I just needed to smooth it out. One dude tipped me a whole two dollars.

    So, I continue trying to "hustle" customers for dances, but they all seemed to be there to drink beer and watch the stage, even though they rarely tipped. As I'm watching the other girls' sets on stage, I'm seeing the girls motorboat guys with their boobs for a measly dollar.

    So, fast-forward to about 9, and hardly anyone else has come to the club. I was sitting with a custie who bought me a drink but said he didn't want any dances, and I just started thinking, "I don't want to be here. I don't want to go on stage and show my boobs for two fucking dollars, and then just have guys tell me they're not buying dances."

    Also, when I had been talking to the manager, he seemed really proud when telling me that some of his girls made $400 a night. And...if that's what top earners make, then I'm not so sure there's money in this club. So after feeling like I wasn't going to make any money and just depressed looking around the club, I told the manager that it wasn't for me and I was so sorry, but thanks for the time. He was understanding and really nice, and he seems like a great manager.

    So I worked a total of 2 hours before leaving, which I know is pathetic, but I just had this intense need to gtfo. I'm thinking of trying another club, but I don't know. I think the area I'm in doesn't have much money right now, and I can't justify dancing topless and earning little more than minimum wage, which is what it sounded like a lot of the girls were making.

    Sorry this was so long, but I've enjoyed reading other newbies' experiences and thought I would share mine.

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    Try a nicer / busier club! Keep in mind though that some places don't even pick up until about 10. I often made 70%-80% of my money from 10p.m.-2a.m. when I was dancing. It sounds like you should try a nice place. You can always come back to the other one later or something.

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    your first shift is going to be like...the longest day of your life.
    and it's august.
    so it may be good to find a club that has good earning potential and just get it out of the way.
    but saturday afternoons in the summer....an awful shift most places.

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    Quote Originally Posted by carmen_b View Post
    Try a nicer / busier club! Keep in mind though that some places don't even pick up until about 10. I often made 70%-80% of my money from 10p.m.-2a.m. when I was dancing. It sounds like you should try a nice place. You can always come back to the other one later or something.
    Yeah, it was actually the first club I visited. I had a list of clubs to check out, but since the first one said I could start, I thought I would go with it. But from the little I talked with the other girls, it sounded like they were at the club because it was the only club that would take them. I'm not saying I'm a perfect 10 or anything, but I think I'll try one of the more upscale clubs.

    Quote Originally Posted by BringOnTheMen View Post
    At my old club the rush would come at 2am, so girls would hide in the DR until 1:30 or so. Ya gotta stick it out at least a full shift.
    Yeah, I was kind of kicking myself for leaving so early, but I just wanted out of that dive. I also hadn't thought I'd be working that night--I thought I was just applying and would start next week, so I don't think I had gotten in the right mindset yet. If I try a different place I'll stay the whole time.

    Quote Originally Posted by camille27 View Post
    your first shift is going to be like...the longest day of your life.
    and it's august.
    so it may be good to find a club that has good earning potential and just get it out of the way.
    but saturday afternoons in the summer....an awful shift most places.
    Thanks for saying that, it makes me feel better. I know the songs were only 3 minutes, but it felt like a very long 3 minutes. I'm in the southeast, where it's like 100 degrees + humidity right now, and school just started, so I'm thinking of waiting until maybe late September before trying a different club. Supposedly the money's better then.

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    Good for you getting your feet wet in the industry! Saturday afternoons are a very quiet shift but there is generally money to be made - however, some clubs are just a must. If you think it wasn't a good fit for you, then it was a good decision to leave early. Be a bit more open about staying for a full shift in your next club though, because like others girls have said, it's a quiet time and the later it gets the busier (usually) it is. Best of luck!

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    aww, poor thing. yes, everything feels longer at the beginning because you give a shit. fortunately, it'll pass!

    saturday dayshift used to be required at a club i once worked because no one would come in otherwise. especially in the summer.

    also, if mgmt says some of the dancers earn $400/shift...i don't know. i always expect to make more than what is "average" but mgmt lies, so ask how many crs they sold last week, or a question where you can estimate what the real earning climate is like.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shanna dior View Post
    Good for you getting your feet wet in the industry! Saturday afternoons are a very quiet shift but there is generally money to be made - however, some clubs are just a must. If you think it wasn't a good fit for you, then it was a good decision to leave early. Be a bit more open about staying for a full shift in your next club though, because like others girls have said, it's a quiet time and the later it gets the busier (usually) it is. Best of luck!
    Thanks! I think I've learned a little bit more about what to look for in a club, so I think I'm just going to visit some clubs as a customer first, and then figure out what might be the best fit. But I will definitely stay the whole time next time. I'm going to treat last night as my amateur night haha.

    Quote Originally Posted by camille27 View Post
    aww, poor thing. yes, everything feels longer at the beginning because you give a shit. fortunately, it'll pass!

    saturday dayshift used to be required at a club i once worked because no one would come in otherwise. especially in the summer.

    also, if mgmt says some of the dancers earn $400/shift...i don't know. i always expect to make more than what is "average" but mgmt lies, so ask how many crs they sold last week, or a question where you can estimate what the real earning climate is like.
    ^^That's what kind of got me...this club didn't offer CRs or VIP. Just dances and stage. And he made it sound like he thought $400 was some huge amount.

    Also, there are cameras throughout the place, but one of the girls told me that the first three lap dance booths are really dark, so... LOL I went to the brightest booth I could find.

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    ^It's so hard to get a good answer for what your potential earnings can be because it varies SO much. If they have CRs or count dances then it's a start, but keep in mind that it could be a small handful of girls making most of that (as is usually the case). There's also not much point asking the other girls since they'll likely lie (either to look good or to deter you from working there) and their earnings aren't necessarily an indicator of how much you'll make for various reasons (looks, regulars, hustle, etc.). Basically, take any earnings estimate you get in the club with a grain of salt. Maybe PM some girls in your area and they won't mind giving you a rough estimate of what you can expect?

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    The harsh reality about dancing is that sometimes you will be waaaay underselling yourself. There are always going to be quiet/dead nights even in a big club where money is. The trick is to not let it ruffle your feathers and remember that for every shit stage where you made $2 theres gonna be one a hell of a lot more rewarding.

    It does sound like you could find a better club though. $400 as a top earner is pretty shit IMO. Ideally you wanna be somewhere where top earners make over $1500 on a sat. I think you already got this part but I definitely encourage staying as late as possible... to the end if possible. Its pretty hard to earn over $1K if you are leaving anytime before 2am in my experience. I usually try to stay till the very end if I can stay awake. It is worth it at least 7/10 times.

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    what city are you in?
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    Is it worth working a few nights here and there at a club you like (even if it's slow) to get your hustle down before its starts getting busier? I guess you are busy with school - but a night a week for a few weeks until it picks up maybe?

    Then you can play the 'I'm still new at this' card but also have the confidence and know how to get dances quickly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by _natasha View Post
    Is it worth working a few nights here and there at a club you like (even if it's slow) to get your hustle down before its starts getting busier? I guess you are busy with school - but a night a week for a few weeks until it picks up maybe?

    Then you can play the 'I'm still new at this' card but also have the confidence and know how to get dances quickly.
    Good point. I'm going to spend the end of this week/weekend checking out other clubs in the area. Hopefully something will stick out.

    Thanks ladies!!

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    Hey Leighton, When youre making 1000 a night or around that youll laugh at that night! Good luck to you! We all remember that night ourselves and everyone is right. it sucks!
    Quote Originally Posted by Leighton View Post
    Sorry for the novel, just sharing my experience...

    So after weeks/months of debating whether or not to dance, I finally went to a club this afternoon to at least try it out. The manager said I could start work immediately. So I hit the floor about 7. I learned how the club works, met a couple of the dancers, management was super nice.

    Anyway, I think it was kind of a dive. Lots of rolly-polly girls and neon everywhere. It was pretty dead...just a couple of men watching football and a group of drunk rednecks that weren't spending. One older guy was all excited about me being new and took me for a dance. I know I was totally awkward, but he said it was very good for a beginner. He had to leave, though, so I went back on the floor and tried making small talk with other custies. Then it was my turn on stage. LOL I don't even remember what I danced to, I was so nervous. I felt okay, but I know my transitions were awkward. The bartender said it was great for a newbie, and that I just needed to smooth it out. One dude tipped me a whole two dollars.

    So, I continue trying to "hustle" customers for dances, but they all seemed to be there to drink beer and watch the stage, even though they rarely tipped. As I'm watching the other girls' sets on stage, I'm seeing the girls motorboat guys with their boobs for a measly dollar.

    So, fast-forward to about 9, and hardly anyone else has come to the club. I was sitting with a custie who bought me a drink but said he didn't want any dances, and I just started thinking, "I don't want to be here. I don't want to go on stage and show my boobs for two fucking dollars, and then just have guys tell me they're not buying dances."

    Also, when I had been talking to the manager, he seemed really proud when telling me that some of his girls made $400 a night. And...if that's what top earners make, then I'm not so sure there's money in this club. So after feeling like I wasn't going to make any money and just depressed looking around the club, I told the manager that it wasn't for me and I was so sorry, but thanks for the time. He was understanding and really nice, and he seems like a great manager.

    So I worked a total of 2 hours before leaving, which I know is pathetic, but I just had this intense need to gtfo. I'm thinking of trying another club, but I don't know. I think the area I'm in doesn't have much money right now, and I can't justify dancing topless and earning little more than minimum wage, which is what it sounded like a lot of the girls were making.

    Sorry this was so long, but I've enjoyed reading other newbies' experiences and thought I would share mine.

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    Lol you had a better night than I did on my first night. My first night I;
    1.first stage round the platform on my shoes broke clean off.
    2. After that I danced barefoot and some how got so dizzy and nervousness and jumped off stage to puke.
    3. Went home with 12 dollars and I couldn't even leave early because my boyfriend had the car.
    Yeahhh I'm surprised I ever went back to that club lmao just keep trying I'm sure you will find a club you like!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jessie_tinydancer View Post

    It does sound like you could find a better club though. $400 as a top earner is pretty shit IMO. Ideally you wanna be somewhere where top earners make over $1500 on a sat. I think you already got this part but I definitely encourage staying as late as possible... to the end if possible. Its pretty hard to earn over $1K if you are leaving anytime before 2am in my experience. I usually try to stay till the very end if I can stay awake. It is worth it at least 7/10 times.
    It will all depend on the club, season, and where is located. In my area making from 400-600 on saturdays is lots and lots of money 'cause the averages are the high 100's through the low 300s.

    In DC, making 400 is nothing, but making over 800 bucks is more common; banking is making over 1grand on fridays and saturdays.





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    Quote Originally Posted by camille27 View Post
    aww, poor thing. yes, everything feels longer at the beginning because you give a shit. fortunately, it'll pass!

    saturday dayshift used to be required at a club i once worked because no one would come in otherwise. especially in the summer.

    also, if mgmt says some of the dancers earn $400/shift...i don't know. i always expect to make more than what is "average" but mgmt lies, so ask how many crs they sold last week, or a question where you can estimate what the real earning climate is like.
    400 bucks on Fridays and Saturdays is pretty normal, but is can also be "bank", but it all depends on the area.





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    I agree with the other ladies. 1) you really have to stay for a whole shift. And really, you can't even judge your "earning potential" as a dancer or at a particular club until you've worked at least 3-4 shifts. Dancing is not like other jobs where your earnings are steady, they vary A LOT by the hour, and by the day. You might make $100 every day for a week, then the next week, $500+ every day. The club I worked at over the summer was completely dead for all of may and june, then picked up in july and august. Dancing is like gambling.

    There are things you can do to increase your earnings though. Don't let yourself get grumpy and upset, customers can tell, and it will hurt your money. Work a balanced schedule: enough that you make your cash, not so much that you're exhausted and irritable. Hustle everybody. Even the guys that look too young/poor/uninterested/busy to be worth it. Esecially when the club is less than busy. When the club is really dead, go hide in the dressing room, or somewhere else and take a break. You'd get a break at a regular job right? So you deserve one when dancing too! You're upset at poor stage tips, I get that, but hey, in canada, stage tipping is suuuuuuper rare! It's an anomaly to see girls tipped on stage, except at certain clubs. I look at stage as a marketing tool. Even if you don't get tipped look at it as advertising for lapdances and champagne rooms.

    I agree though that you should try a nicer club. Just because you didn't seem to hit it off so well at that one. And $400 for a top earner is kinda low...unless you are that girl and making that about every night. Which, maybe you could be that girl! nothin too shabby about $400 a night imo

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    1.) You should've stayed the entire shift unless there was something that made you very uncomfortable going on. I have left one club early on my first night, the Silver Cricket in Dearborn, MI, and that is because there was a sign in the dressing room that said "Ladies, do NOT use the Falcon Motel--Police are watching" and I got a very bad vibe from the place.

    2.) You should not expect to make much on stage unless you are in a busy club where tipping is required. I've gone on stage hundreds of times and not even made $1, it happens.

    3.) You can't really judge a club's potential at 9 PM. I've worked at clubs that didn't close until 6 AM! The earliest a club has ever closed was 2 AM, and you really can't tell what potential the club has until it's later in the night--at least midnight, if not later. I usually make 80% of my money after 1 AM, because my current club is open until 4 AM.

    If you really hate the club then try a new one, but you should make a point to stay until it closes. Don't go on a slow night if you are going to flake out when you don't make bank, if you want to dive in head first then go on a Friday or Saturday night.
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    If the club wasn't a good fit, maybe you did right to pack it in early. That being said I have been about to walk out and all of a sudden BOOM we get a rush of people. It does happen. Next time you feel like leaving, get dressed REAL slow. It might make the difference between a $100 and $1000 night. Trust me it's happened before. Good luck. Remember SMILE and don't dance like this:
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