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    Lightbulb VIP/Champagne Approaches..

    Apologies if this is elsewhere and i'm being a blind bat..

    But i'm desperate now, because my approaches to offering vip is awkward and obviously not tempting enough to custies..

    I've gotten lucky twice, that the punter I went for wasn't actually the one paying, but both times it wasn't a full hour AND the last half hour of the shift so no time to suggest longer..

    I've tried, "lets go somewhere more private, just you & me, so we can get to know each other a bit better" *bites lip/wink/sultry stare etc etc* but they ALWAYS get whiny about prices, or they could do, but they hate champagne, or just any excuse that stumps me and I end up whining back.

    I just need a few cunning lines to use when they come at me with "your hella expensive aren't you" or "i can't see the worth in that much money" when i see plenty of men in vip/champagne.

    Am I approaching the wrong kind of men? I do go for suits or big spenders, but I also do build up a repore, I spend a sufficient amount of time letting the custie know I am into him, i'm attracted to him and showing him i'm a good time.. But hasn't paid off yet! I've been doing this for a good 2 or so months, and I know a few girls who started the same time as me or even after and getting a strong string of vips in a night.

    I'm more than ready to bank! >.<

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    I would recommend reading around Hustle Hut. There are a TON of posts on conversation, one-liners, approaches, etc. You can apply any of these skills to getting a CR; don't think of it as some specific secret.

    It seems that you're in the completely wrong mindset, so I'll make a couple short suggestions:
    1) You're desperate, you've admitted it. But make sure you're not coming off that way. It's not sexy.
    2) Don't spend too much time talking/ "building a rapport". The odds are better if you're talking to a lot of customers for a shorter amount of time than one customer for a long amount of time.
    3) Don't worry about the type of men you're approaching. If you're hustling right, you can get ANYONE into VIP, as long as they're in the mindset to spend (some people are just cheap or broke, and it may be suits! don't let them fool you).
    4) Believe in yourself. If you feel sexy, if you feel that you're worth it, and if you're having fun, all that is going to show, and your attitude alone will sell VIP.

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    Default Re: VIP/Champagne Approaches..

    this seems like a good thread to keep building! I could really use the advice as well, or links to useful threads...

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    Default Re: VIP/Champagne Approaches..

    #1 you have to KNOW you are worth the money it costs to go into VIP/CR. In fact, you are worth alot more When guys ask how much it is to go up there, don't say anything along the lines of "it's expensive, it costs alot,etc.." Always be confident when you say the price, don't flinch when you say it. Tell them that you are worth every. single. dollar and more. Make direct eye contact and do a sexy smile or lip bite.
    I agree with everyone else, don't sit too long with the guy and build "rapport". The longer you sit with him, the less he will be willing to spend. Why spend if he's getting your time (which you could be in vip) for free?
    Let's say you do get him up for a dance, after the first song lean in and whisper in his ear: "Let's take this somewhere more private; intimate; naughtier, etc... If he's already a touchy bastard then I wouldn't recommend saying "naughtier".
    My biggest problem is the question, "What happens or what do I get in VIP?" I've been told to say something like, "Well what do you want to happen up there?" If they say something disgusting then you can either not go up there or you can take advantage. Most clubs get the money beforehand so if he pulls his dick out or is too grabby then you can just walk out Make sure you tell him that he can't do it first. If he continues then walk out.
    I like to elaborate that Champagne is in the enclosed glass area on the 3rd floor away from everyone/thing else, it's VERY private, *I* can be naughtier up there and he gets a bottle of champagne and unlimited dances.
    Believe it or not, I rarely sell champagne though. I just don't ask :/ It's $550 an hr and I get $200 of it. Doesn't seem worth it to me. I'd much rather do 8 dances in an hr. (our dances are $20). Good luck!

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    First off, if a guy says something is too expensive then he probably doesn't want to spend what you are suggesting. You always start with the highest sale and then work down. I wouldn't waste time reasoning with someone that says it's too expensive to do a CR, because he probably wouldn't tip me and if he did agree to buy he would want to get the most bang for his buck--which ain't happening with me.

    Secondly, the best thing you can do is be sexy but straight forward. Tell them that if they buy a CR you two will be uninterrupted and that you can have a lot of fun together. Tell them what you will do for them, not what you won't do for them. If you allow touching then tell them they can feel your boobs. If you get fully nude (because it's LEGAL) then tell them you get fully nude. If you offer back rubs then tell them that you will give them an amazing back rub. If you can grind hard then tell them you will give them a hard, long ride.

    Things like that. Don't be too detailed, but don't be too vague. You can always say "Well, I can't give away ALL my secrets *wink*, but I do give a great back rub and I've been told my ass looks great from behind".
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    Default Re: VIP/Champagne Approaches..

    I need help in this area too bc my club is very strict. The only time we can be topless is on stage. Main Stage, the Dance room stage, or the VIP stage. We are never allowed to be topless or naked while on their lap. How do I sell these rooms when nothing special happens in them????

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    I agree that the biggest part about selling is to act like it's no big deal, that you know somebody else will take you but since you like him so much you want it to be him. Men don't really care about spending money as much as we do, think about some of the stupid stuff your boyfriends have blown a ton of cash on. If they want something they'll make it happen. You just have to be confident that no matter what the price they'll leave happy they spent it. The truth is they almost always are unless you're an idiot & promise something you have no intention of delivering. Something along these lines usually works for me.
    Let's go somewhere we can be alone together. I'd love to get naked with you without anyone watching.
    How much?
    I don't know exactly, something like $1000.
    That's a lot of money!
    Is it? Everyone I've been with seems happy to spend it and usually wants to stay even longer.

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    The advice here is fantastic but if you need more detail then why not use the search function for threads and trawl through the site till you get info, cut and paste into a notebook and read it before you work, during your breaks, and add to it as you discover what works for you.

    The more you read (from searches), the more certain things will stand out, or you will start to notice girls who give great advice (and then you go to their profile and read all of their previous threads).

    I have devoted hours to research on SW and it is worth my time investment- you restrict yourself by limiting the advice you recieve to current users when there is a wealth of info from day one of SW.
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    Also, a lot of the time I pepper the conversation with hints about how great VIP is before I ask. I'll entertain them with stories about working at the club, which they love, and always talk about fun in the champagne rooms, about how sometimes I drink too much champagne in there because I just get so comfortable and relaxed & sometimes that makes me a little frisky or naughty etc. etc. Or I'll tell a story about a friend & say she's working tonight but some lucky guy got to take her to a private room so they're having the time of their lives. Then I'll ask them a question about themselves before I say we've spent too much time together with our clothes on and invite them into a room with me. My method may not work for everyone, especially those who don't want to spend a lot of time talking on the main floor. I've found what works best for me is to establish a rapport and make them feel like I'm evaluating whether I'm willing to go to a room with them (because I am) because I want them to stay in the room for a minimum of 3 hours. Some girls couldn't stand to spend that much time with one customer, so take it with a grain of salt.

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    Yes! What flickdreams said. I started reading the posts from 2002 & 2003 and those girls were no joke. They knew how to be great salespeople without having to resort to extras to make their money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SadieNikole View Post
    I need help in this area too bc my club is very strict. The only time we can be topless is on stage. Main Stage, the Dance room stage, or the VIP stage. We are never allowed to be topless or naked while on their lap. How do I sell these rooms when nothing special happens in them????
    Having 100% of your attention where you won't have anyone staring at you, or trying to take you away, or hovering, and you won't be called away to stage is special. Your undivided attention is what you're selling. If a guy likes you he'd much rather have you in a private area all to himself, having a drink with you, feeling like the two of you are on a special date. When you laugh at his jokes & run your fingers through his hair & tell him you only want to be with him you're going to make him feel really special and in return he's going to want to take care of your needs. And while you're at work you need to be making money for yourself and for the club.
    I read a post somewhere here from a guy saying that he wants the girls to pay attention to him. If he just wanted to look at boobs he'd stay home & watch a porno for free. Keep that in mind when you think about whats really of value in the club.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SadieNikole View Post
    I need help in this area too bc my club is very strict. The only time we can be topless is on stage. Main Stage, the Dance room stage, or the VIP stage. We are never allowed to be topless or naked while on their lap. How do I sell these rooms when nothing special happens in them????
    I'm also thinking this setup can be a great opportunity for you. if you take him to VIP you can hang out & have special time together & you can also probably pop up onto the VIP stage whenever you want to do a little impromptu dance without your clothes on for him. That will get his motor running.

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