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    I've been dancing for three years, and I'm good at my job. I'm a good dancer and hustler, and I can find guys willing to spend money. I do lots of VIP rooms, but I have a hard time getting more from one customer, even when I know they have the funds and are willing to spend. No one I've been with has seemed dissatisfied (unless, of course, they ended up wanting more than I was willing to do), and, in fact, they usually seem very happy. I'll suggest "spending more time together" or "having more fun" or whatever when the time is almost up, but they always "need to go calm down" or "want to take a break" and then I'll see them go with someone else 10 minutes later.

    I think the problem is that I'm not aggressive enough asking for a second VIP, and I think that's because I feel that I've expended all my "moves" during the first one. Does anyone have suggestions on how to a) ask for a second VIP/ "spend more time together" and b) how to make my routine last longer or seem more interesting/different the second time around?

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    UGH my issue EXACTLY. I seem to have guys go very easily but I'm queen of the 2-3 dances. I see some of my friends always going back for awhile and I can't ever seem to keep them there longer!
    Every guy I dance for always says "You were great" or "What days do you work, I'd love to come back in to see you again?" always something very promising but still I can't seem to make them stay longer....

    I have tried this trick which does seem to work slightly: when the song is nearing completion I always try to position myself as close as possible to ask for the second. Some of my "moves" positon myself with my face farther away so I try to make sure I'm always nice and close (more intimitely) to ask for the next dance.

    But that only seems to get me from the second to the third dance....

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    Timing. Timing, timing, timing. Wear a watch and keep checking it.
    There is no magic recipe for a VIP turning into a string of VIPs, but you significantly increase your chances if you are where you want/need to be when that clock stops ticking.
    Some customers expect you to dance as soon as you get in there, or for the whole time, so its not even a matter of just holding off on dancing until the time is nearly up.
    I like to think that creating a special 'moment' between the two of you makes a difference in their spending. After some teasing and flirting, I try to position myself by their side, up close, where I can lean in and breathe on their neck and lower my voice. Look deep in their eyes, almost challenging them in some way. It doesn't even matter if you're speaking or not. If you are maintaining that eye contact, creating a false connection, then when the waitress enters to tell you time is up, the customer feels interrupted, like he's not finished with you yet and wants to continue.
    If you don't have a waitress or anyone to tell the customer the time is up and ask if they want more, then you have to be more clever with your words. Its not just a matter of asking in a sexy way, you have to prep them to say yes. I think there are already a few threads on this - have you trawled through Hustle Hut and had a read?

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    I always keep track of the time based on the song count in VIP. Usually 8 songs = 30 minutes. So Around the 6th or 7th song I do something extremely sexy, hint at something more to come. Then I switch it up on them and say we need to go to a better room. A room that is less monitored, a room without anyone/less people in it. By going from room to room it keeps things interesting while keeping him hungry for what's next.

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    Timing is everything. Near the end of the song i always go harder and faster so that the guy doesnt want me to stop this normally works and i get 1-3 more dances off of him. I also recently discoverd that the order i take my clothes off has a huge impact on how many dances i get. My breast are my best asset as im a size D and they are real so the guys love em. What i used to do was after the 1st song, take off my top, then my garter, then my bottoms but the problem was because some guys already got to see my breast they would take off. Well after i revsersed the order and worked from the bottom up i saw an increase in how long i could keep a guy in VIP.
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    Does your VIP include champagne? Or do they order that on top? Drinks can be a help or a hindrance in getting more time. You can go with the angle that since you still have champagne you should take more time to drink it, or you can get them to drink it quickly to get them drunk (while you pour yours away on the sly) and demand more. It depends on a few factors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jay12 View Post
    ^What Sophia said.
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    I wish there was an "auto-like" setting that I could just have applied to all of your posts Sophia....

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    Default Re: Keeping a customer in VIP?

    Awesome. Thanks for all the responses.

    Unfortunately, our club is no alcohol (so it's not a CR), and our 1/2hr is in the same section as the hr, so there's no incentive for more privacy or intimacy. I like the idea of extra eye contact and connection at the end. But what do you say once they tell you the time is up? In our club, the bouncer comes to tell us we have 5 min left.

    I also guess I'll have to read over a lot of the "what to talk about" threads so that I can brush up on my conversation skills. It takes up so much time, but I'm really bad at getting too deep into intellectual conversation and not keeping it light. Thanks for all the advice!

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