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    I've noticed that pretty much all strippers are "single" as far as their relationship status is concerned when they are hustling a customer. I don't think I've ever run across a stripper who admits that she's got a husband or boyfriend while she's hustling, even though I'm sure that many, or perhaps most, of you do. This makes sense, because it builds on the fantasy aspect of the club, which is that the customer is led to believe that there's this hot single girl who is half naked and interested in him and only him.

    But I've also noticed that strippers admit to having small children during conversations with customers. And many like to talk a lot about their kids. This just doesn't seem like an effective technique to me, so I was wondering why they do it. Is it just conversation to pass the time? I mean, I spent some time and money with one stripper in the club recently who ran a pretty good game. She would ask me all kinds of questions that suggested she was "interested" in me, such as whether I was married or had a girlfriend, how old I was, whether I had any kids, how she's really into guys like me, etc. I knew it was part of her game of course but I played along because it's all part of the fantasy. But then she brings up her two young children. Isn't this actually counterproductive to her game? Even if it's not, why even bring it up? Several dancers have done this recently so I was just curious.

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    If a customer has kids, that can be something to bond over. Otherwise, strippers are humans too and lots of moms like talking about their kids, so why shouldn't they? Every single thing we do doesn't necessarily have to be a hustle, yanno. Seems like you're looking into this a bit much. Just enjoy the time and conversation you have with each dancer, no need for analysis.

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    Is there some reason she shouldn't have? I mean, you probably did some talking about your life too I'd imagine, so why shouldn't she? We're not robots. Wouldn't you rather feel as though you'er having a decent conversation with a WOMAN rather than a droid?
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    Is there some reason she shouldn't have? I mean, you probably did some talking about your life too I'd imagine, so why shouldn't she?
    Everything depends on the context of course. If a girl can tell that the guy seems savvy enough to understand what the SC is all about then talking about kids is probably the same as talking about anything else. But it seems like there are probably a lot of dumb customers out there who really do believe that they have a chance with you girls OTC or whatever. Isn't this the kind of guy where talking about kids might be counterproductive because it might make him less interested (and thus less interested in spending money?)

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    I might take a little heat for saying this but I think talking about kids is a bit of a no no for dancers a majority of the time. Sadly, most of the PLs who come in want the fantasy droid instead of real women.
    I have had regulars in the past who had the right idea about spending time and money with me that I did talk to about home and family, but I and several club going male friends see talking about kids as a pity money tactic. Of course, though, everything has a time and place.
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    I do not have kids (and I don't make up fake ones lol) but I know that when a guy asks me if I am single I usually tell them that I have a boyfriend (which I do) UNLESS I get the vibe that they are the kind of customer that is only going to spend money if they think they are going to date me or get me OTC.

    So maybe these ladies just get a vibe that you won't care that they have kids? Or thinks you'll give her pity money? Or maybe she just doesn't give a fuck and/or wants to talk about her kids?

    Also, some guys go for the hot mom thing. I don't know how common that is, but I know my boyfriend likes hot moms, and he can't be that much of a freak.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KeithDoxen View Post
    Everything depends on the context of course. If a girl can tell that the guy seems savvy enough to understand what the SC is all about then talking about kids is probably the same as talking about anything else. But it seems like there are probably a lot of dumb customers out there who really do believe that they have a chance with you girls OTC or whatever. Isn't this the kind of guy where talking about kids might be counterproductive because it might make him less interested (and thus less interested in spending money?)
    Well sure hon. Obviously it comes back to our ability to read you as a customer. If we're good at what we do, we'll automatically know what type of convo to have with you. Many of us have different personalities we use on different customers at any given moment. Just because she talks about her kids with one guy doesn't mean she's doing that with everyone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KeithDoxen View Post
    I've noticed that pretty much all strippers are "single" as far as their relationship status is concerned when they are hustling a customer. I don't think I've ever run across a stripper who admits that she's got a husband or boyfriend while she's hustling, even though I'm sure that many, or perhaps most, of you do. This makes sense, because it builds on the fantasy aspect of the club, which is that the customer is led to believe that there's this hot single girl who is half naked and interested in him and only him.

    But I've also noticed that strippers admit to having small children during conversations with customers. And many like to talk a lot about their kids. This just doesn't seem like an effective technique to me, so I was wondering why they do it. Is it just conversation to pass the time? I mean, I spent some time and money with one stripper in the club recently who ran a pretty good game. She would ask me all kinds of questions that suggested she was "interested" in me, such as whether I was married or had a girlfriend, how old I was, whether I had any kids, how she's really into guys like me, etc. I knew it was part of her game of course but I played along because it's all part of the fantasy. But then she brings up her two young children. Isn't this actually counterproductive to her game? Even if it's not, why even bring it up? Several dancers have done this recently so I was just curious.

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    Actually, I always told customers I had a bf, even when I was actually single. Getting money out of a customer for a few nights wasn't worth the BS of dealing with him as the fantasy of meeting OTC eventually came crumbling down and he got pissed. I wanted guys to know there was no chance I was seeing them outside the club, because I had a bf (or "bf" lol). In my experience, I've seen dancers talk about their kids when customers ask. I can't even count the number of times a customer has asked if I have kids, just to make conversation. I personally think that just rambling on about them without being asked is kind of a "no-no" like Naida said. But if a customer asks, you can't really blame them. Or maybe they just can't think of anything else to talk about because they spend most of their "free time" being moms.

    I will admit, I made up having a kid once. I was bored... lol The guy actually seemed to like that I "had a kid" because he said he "could tell that I had a story behind my eyes"

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    I don't have kids but knew a few dancers who did mention to regulars they had kids. Many reasons why, but yes pity money was one of it. Also, according to one dancer, men often think women with kids are morely likely to have sex with them (I thought this was far fetched).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Naida View Post
    I might take a little heat for saying this but I think talking about kids is a bit of a no no for dancers a majority of the time. Sadly, most of the PLs who come in want the fantasy droid instead of real women.
    I have had regulars in the past who had the right idea about spending time and money with me that I did talk to about home and family, but I and several club going male friends see talking about kids as a pity money tactic. Of course, though, everything has a time and place.
    Personally, I agree with this. I have lots of different back stories and things I'll talk about but I'm always incredibly careful to not say a word about my real life.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aurora_Sunset View Post
    Actually, I always told customers I had a bf, even when I was actually single. Getting money out of a customer for a few nights wasn't worth the BS of dealing with him as the fantasy of meeting OTC eventually came crumbling down and he got pissed. I wanted guys to know there was no chance I was seeing them outside the club, because I had a bf (or "bf" lol).
    Yeah, I used to say I was single but I'm pretty sure telling them I have a boyfriend helps me hear a lot less BS about wanting OTC.

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    I will admit, I made up having a kid once. I was bored... lol The guy actually seemed to like that I "had a kid" because he said he "could tell that I had a story behind my eyes"
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    I lie and say I'm married.
    It eliminates customers who think we're going to have some sort of "relationship" and cuts down the amount of bullshit I have to deal with, as I'm left with customers who know and accept that this is a business transaction.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KeithDoxen View Post
    I've noticed that pretty much all strippers are "single" as far as their relationship status is concerned when they are hustling a customer...

    ...But I've also noticed that strippers admit to having small children during conversations with customers. And many like to talk a lot about their kids.
    And some will talk about their BF's, their other jobs, their mom and dad or their brothers and sisters. My favorite was the one who used to talk about her previous career flying choppers in dessert storm (even though she was barely 21 when she started dancing). In other words. It's just a story a lot of the time.

    One of my favs is a divorced woman with no kids but several pets. She used to tell guys that she was a single mom with kids at home. She didn't do it to get sympathy money, she did it so that she would have an excuse to turn down offers from guys to take her out after her shift but still have them come back and spend money on her next time. "Sorry, gotta get home and feed my kids!"

    Many of the dancers I know have multiple "back stories" depending on how they read a particular guy. There are guys who want to think that they can date you and there are guys who just want to have fun in the club and then go home to their wives. There are married guys who want you to cheat with them. The back story, and the gal's approach, is quite often tailored to what it is she thinks you are after. Now, it doesn't mean that you are going to get it, just that she will let you think that you are. Sometimes the back story has some elements of truth, sometimes none at all. I've known quite a few who had husbands but never talked about them and a few others who did. I even know a Brazilian who now tells guys she is from Russia because she thinks there are too any Brazilians at her club.
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    I was wondering why they do it
    Mainly to gain sympathy.

    Another effective hustle is to talk about paying rent whether it's the club house fees or the mortgage.

    Some guys have the fantasy of taking care of damsels in distress.

    I've had custy's ask if I've made my house yet.

    The only reason I can think of why they ask me that is so that I will lower my standards so I can pay the club.

    It never works with me since I usually make my house off the first customer I talk to.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Naida View Post
    I might take a little heat for saying this but I think talking about kids is a bit of a no no for dancers a majority of the time. Sadly, most of the PLs who come in want the fantasy droid instead of real women.
    I have had regulars in the past who had the right idea about spending time and money with me that I did talk to about home and family, but I and several club going male friends see talking about kids as a pity money tactic. Of course, though, everything has a time and place.
    I agree with this too. I've seen customers get a little weirded out when a stripper suddenly whips pictures of her kids out of her little work-purse and starts bragging about them. I've seen strippers use this as a hustle: "Want to see pictures of my kids?" I think it can sometimes be a genuine way of connecting with a customer, but seriously, you should be able to tell what customers that will appeal to and which ones it will drive away.

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    yoda, as usual the strippers that you visit are far more sophisticated than the ones that I often see.

    Keith, these girls are not robots. It is not uncommon for many strippers to share a bit about themselves in "get to know you" chatter or over the course of multiple visits. Now some of the times I might very well be getting a cover story, but many times I suspect that I am hearing the truth. Just because they work as dancers does not mean that they are not human.

    Now whether or not she is telling the truth is something completely different from what she may be leaving out or whether she is telling you more about herself in order to get you invested in her, but there it is.

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    Well, don't kids take up a lot of time and generally become the center of a parent's life? Most of the men who come into the club have kids, many dancers have kids, its easy to bond over kid stories, and it can lend some additional compassion and sympathy from the custy, leading to more money.

    Why would it be counterproductive in any way? Saying one is married/ in a relationship can shut off the fantasy in many men's heads that she might actually be available for dating or fucking. Saying she has kids doesn't prevent that fantasy unless the custy is one of those trogladytes who think that having kids ruins women physically of what have you....

    I've never made up having a kid but often wish I did, seeing a ton of girls getting hours of dances from a man and having stuff to talk about the entire time, when our conversation ran out.

    I stopped saying I had a boyfriend to guys who in general after I tested out the truth and lost money over it. However, with many regulars and generally cool custies I was honest and it was no issue.

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    yoda, as usual the strippers that you visit are far more sophisticated than the ones that I often see.
    LOL, I don't know any dancers under 35 and I think the shortest amount of time any of them have been dancing is about six years. Sophistication? I don't know about that but they are definitely experienced!
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    LOL, I don't know any dancers under 35 and I think the shortest amount of time any of them have been dancing is about six years. Sophistication? I don't know about that but they are definitely experienced!
    I'm under 35. Hopefully this won't be a problem when you come see me.
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    ^ Of course not! Keep in mind that two of my favs are around 35 now but I've known them since they were in their mid 20's!
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    kids...
    there are plenty of strippers who actually don't bullshit, and who talk to customers like they're talking to any random acquaintance.
    some customers would rather spend their money on girls who "need" it more.
    some customers think girls with kids will "work harder" because they need it
    it makes it easier to avoid requests to meet since you've got to get home to your kids.
    some customers think we pretty much all have kids and don't believe it if we say no, and it's easier to get a dance if you tell someone what he already believes to be true.
    lots of reasons
    a pity hustle is an unsuccessful hustle, so any girl who isn't retarded learns quickly not to bother with that.


    relationship status....
    i've said i was single because it was the truth. but as a hustle, it's the worst. if i'm actually hustling, i'll lie about some kind of relationship. if a guy asks me if i'm single, it's because he expects me to say i'm in a relationship. if i tell him the truth, he accuses me of lying to him and trying to hustle him. these are the only guys who have ever asked me. guys who are chill and don't play bizarre games like this don't ask about relationship status. and the ones who do ask will only spend money if i tell them what they want to hear.
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    I am recently seperated and no kids.I tell truth

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    if a guy asks me if i'm single, it's because he expects me to say i'm in a relationship. if i tell him the truth, he accuses me of lying to him and trying to hustle him. these are the only guys who have ever asked me. guys who are chill and don't play bizarre games like this don't ask about relationship status. and the ones who do ask will only spend money if i tell them what they want to hear.
    True dat. Customers who assumed I was single or hoped I was single would ask and think I was lying if I said I had a bf. They'd be like "ok, I know you have to tell me that because of the rules of the club." Or get all butt-hurt that I didn't "really" like them. Customers who assumed I had a bf would ask and think I was lying if I said I was single (which I did sometimes in the beginning). They'd be all "oh, of course you have a bf! You're just trying to play me." Customers who don't care, don't ask or don't care what your answer is. And I don't talk about my relationship status either way if I'm not asked... so... I'd really prefer if you just didn't ask. It shouldn't matter, and there's nothing to figure out about her hustle if you don't ask personal questions.

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    Relationship questions usually get the answer of "I have a girlfriend" Some guys will make the assumption that I'm gay, some will assume I'm bi. I'm actually pansexual though. Either way, I've found this answer to be slightly less problematic, since most guys don't seem to expect it as much and there's the cockblock of a relationship without the defensiveness of another penis.
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