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    Adult Industry Prepares For 2012 GOP Convention

    TAMPA, Fla. -- Following an extensive remodel, the Penthouse Club in Tampa, Fla., is finally ready for next summer's Republican National Convention. Club operator DeWayne Levesque has installed two secluded VIP sections, which he hopes will help his club attract a bigger share of the 50,000 visitors expected to descend upon the city on Aug. 27 for four days of conservative politics and liberal partying. In addition to the club's new carpets and furniture, the private rooms are designed to provide cover so that camera-shy donors, politicians and aides can enjoy the strippers without fear of getting caught, he said.

    A few blocks from the Penthouse Club, another strip club owner, Joe Redner, said he has high hopes for what the convention means for business at his all-nude club, Mons Venus. "I'm guessing we'll make five times as much in a night as we usually do," Redner told HuffPost. "Republicans got plenty of money. They take it all from poor people," he said.

    Redner said he thinks many convention visitors will be in the market for a lap dance, but newly-released academic research suggests that some will be interested in the darker elements of Tampa's adult scene, too -- sex for sale. HuffPost teamed up with Tampa-based reporter Shawn Alff, of the Creating Loafing media group, to examine the potential impact of the RNC on two major pillars of the city's X-rated economy: prostitution and strip clubs.

    "I can make between $50,000-$60,000 a night at Mons Venus during the days leading up to the Superbowl," Redner explained, "up from $10,000-$12,000 on an average night." When asked how a buttoned-up, political clientele might differ from a Superbowl crowd, Redner laughed. "All customers look [at the dancers] the same, no matter what they're wearing or what they're here for."

    Mons Venus typically closes at 5 a.m., but Redner said he would be willing to keep the club open 24-7 during the GOP convention if demand merits it. That said, he may charge clients a premium at the door. "During the Superbowl I charge $50 a head. I may decide to do that during the convention, too."

    In the meantime, Redner's got a few bones to pick with GOP policymakers. "[Republicans] keep saying this stuff about how if we tax the rich, then small businesses won't be able to grow. But I'm a small business owner, and I put all my money right back into my businesses in the form of capital improvements, which I don't pay taxes on anyway. So their argument isn't how reality works."

    Another adults-only perk for conventioneers are scheduled appearances at clubs by well-known female adult film stars. Agent Brian Gross, who represents actresses Joanna Angel, Ryan Keely and Alexis Ford told HuffPost that "large events … give big name adult stars who dance on the circuit a great opportunity to get in front of a large crowd for their on-stage performances."


    One star who might feel right at home during the convention is Lisa Ann of the "Nailin' Palin" adult film series, which lampooned the former governor of Alaska. Lisa Ann is currently touring, but no word on whether she's slated to hit Tampa next summer. X-rated starlets also offer the clubs a competitive advantage, which is critical in an industry that Redner said has been hard hit by the Great Recession.

    For those with cash to spend, however, the options abound. An adult video producer who gave his name as "Brandon" said he plans to offer conventioneers an erotic limo service that includes the company of "models."

    But don't expect to see Washington big-shots climbing out of Brandon's limo anytime soon. "The people in Tampa from D.C. will be there to work, not to get caught in a limo with [that stuff]," said a veteran Republican operative. "Now the delegates, that's another story, because they've only got one thing to do the whole time, which is vote for the nominee."

    He also pointed to the recent surge in opposition video-trackers as a possible deterrent for strip clubs and the like. "I remember seeing ambush video guys outside of parties as far back as the 2008 convention in Minneapolis," he recalled, "and there's just so much more this time around." No doubt many Republicans also vividly remember the public outcry caused by a party-sanctioned visit to an L.A. bondage club last year.




    For Republicans, elevated risk means that a higher premium will likely be placed on discretion, and this could be good news for Tampa's other adult services industry -- prostitution -- which is quietly poised for a 30 percent spike in sales during the Republican National Convention.

    This number represents the findings of a study released by Baylor University this year, which measured the impact of the 2008 Democratic and Republican conventions on prostitution markets in Denver and Minneapolis. To gather data, researchers tracked new ads for prostitutes online at Cragslist.com's now-defunct "Erotic Services" section, as well as the more exclusive escort site Eros.com.

    The results showed that both conventions "increased the count of Craigslist sex worker ads by a substantial amount." In Minnesota, the researchers observed "a 29-44 percent increase in Craigslist ads in Minneapolis during the RNC." The Democratic convention, meanwhile, produced a 47-77 percent increase in ads for sex workers in Denver. The actual number of new ads posted during the conventions, however, was nearly identical for both cities. Denver had fewer ads to begin with, so it grew by a larger percentage.

    Perhaps surprisingly, the one group of sex workers who didn't benefit from the 2008 conventions were the high-priced escorts on Eros.com -- the kind of women who have been linked to more than a few politicians in the past. One of the authors of the study, Dr. Scott Cunningham, recalled a high-priced escort who explained the trouble with political conventions. "She said to me, 'Scott, there just isn't enough disposable income at those political things. But there's a really great radiology convention up in Chicago, and I always go to that.'"

    The reality, however, is that most of Tampa's prostitutes won't be jetting from one convention to the other. Conversely, they could end up in the hands of a man like Charles Fox, who ran a brothel in the middle of South Tampa for nearly seven years until he was arrested last month. According to police, Fox kept up to five women at a time enslaved in a small greenhouse using a combination of fear, drugs, alcohol and violence. He sold them to men online, controlled their every move, and took 100 percent of their earnings. Those who protested were tied up, raped, or worse.

    For men like Charles Fox, political conventions are a great place to make money, said anti-trafficking advocate Andrea Powell. "You can be sure a pimp knows when large numbers of men are going to be in the area," she said in an interview with HuffPost, "and he'll do whatever he can to get his piece of that business."

    Powell is a co-founder of the Fair Fund, which helps rescue trafficked young women, and she said there is absolutely no way for a potential customer to know whether a prostitute has been trafficked.

    "This concept that you can differentiate between willing sex work and trafficking is really complicated, because sex work fuels trafficking, and there's so much money involved," she said. "Consider that one girl can have sex with 15 men in a night, at $100 an hour. This means she's producing $35,000-$40,000 a month for whoever owns her."

    With police resources stretched thin during the convention, officers are unlikely to make prostitution busts a big priority. "Our primary focus will be to ensure that we have a smooth and safe event," Tampa Police Department spokeswoman Laura McElroy told WSFA this spring. "But we will enforce all of our laws, and have officers assigned to enforcing our prostitution laws." Police also said they would be "keeping an eye on Craigs list [sic]."

    But if that's the plan, then Tampa law enforcement may be a few steps behind. Craigslist.com closed their "Erotic Services" section in 2009, under increasing pressure from the Justice Department and consumers. In response, much of the online prostitution jumped over to the Village Voice-owned site Backpage.com, which currently dominates the market (disclosure: Creative Loafing publishes classified ads on Backpage.com, although not for adult services). In Tampa, more than 480 new ads for adult services were posted to Backpage.com on Monday alone, with at least 230 of them tagged "Escort." Many of these had disclaimers saying that hourly rates were for "companionship only," and not for sex. But the photos suggest otherwise.

    Unlike Craigslist.com, Backpage appears to welcome the chance to litigate any challenges to its adult services section. Their case is girded by a 1996 law that absolved individual websites of responsibility for illegal content posted by users. Last month, lawyers for Backpage.com won a victory in court when a judge dismissed a lawsuit that had been brought on behalf of a teenage girl forced into prostitution and sold by a pimp through Backpage.com.

    As prostitution continues its steady migration from the street corner to the Internet, sites like Backpage are well-positioned to play an even bigger role at 2012 political conventions than Craigslist did in 2008. But a lot can happen in 12 months, and Backpage has powerful enemies. As the site fends off external threats, the toughest criticism leveled at the Mons Venus club may come from the owner himself. "I would never frequent a strip club if I didn't own one," Redner said. "I don't like to be teased."

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    I don't like Redner. What a dick!
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    Oh awesome. A convention full of people who are simultaneously trying to shut us down while sneaking in their last grope. Wonderful. I cant wait.
    The best thing i have heard in a strip club to date:
    customer: we should get married right now! we should get a shotgun marriage!
    me: uhh... i think you are misunderstanding what a shotgun marriage means. A shotgun marriage means you knock me up and my daddy shows up at your door with a gun and forces you to marry me and raise the baby. You mean elope.
    customer: hmm... nah actually i will take the shotgun marriage. At least then we would be having sex.


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    Yeah I was going to denver when they had the democratic convention there..........I skipped it and all the girls were complaining how bad it was. I live in tampa and wont be working it. Oh and penthouse sucks I worked there for 8 months last year in between travel trips, duanne and maria are assholes who don't know how to run a club since they've taken over they've run it into the ground I never saw more than 30 guys through the door when I worked. Granted I was only there 2 days a week when I didn't travel but yeah I wouldn't reccomend that place. Mons or the doll house if girls want to work there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by J.D. View Post
    I don't like Redner. What a dick!
    Actually he's not at all. I've known him since the 80's. He has been a huge advocate for dancers, gay people and anyone else he feel is being treated unfairly.
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    I didn't think mons did this anymore......I'll have to ask my good friend as she's been there 1o years. 2001 does this too, sigh, this is why I travel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by camille27 View Post
    what the FUCK is this http://www.monsvenus.com/

    is this even legal? what the fucking fuckkkkkk??
    Yes. They have us sign a release when we are hired. The webcams are easy to avoid if you don't want to be on them.
    Honestly though that website is a joke, I doubt they make any money off of it.

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    ^ There are hotels all up and down dale mabry by mons. Tampa is high contact nude ( boob touching) keep that in mind.

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    Oh and they won't give you info on the phone, my friend who's been there 10 years says they hired like 20 girls last week so there's like 50-60 girls a night in a tiny club and no customers right now.

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    it seems like tampa is not ideal without a car, but may be a nice place to work on occasion. hmph. a bit disappointed.

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    ^ honestly, no, it's not a nice place to work on occasion. even during season, it's usually only worth it if you can work a bunch so the bad nights and good nights even out. i've had nights where i averaged over 100/hr and nights where i left with a couple bucks after tip out and still owing housefee, in the same week.

    i can understand working in tampa if you live there or somewhere nearby that's even worse, but coming to the area just to work is fucking retarded.
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    Quote Originally Posted by she sells sanctuary View Post
    ^ honestly, no, it's not a nice place to work on occasion. even during season, it's usually only worth it if you can work a bunch so the bad nights and good nights even out. i've had nights where i averaged over 100/hr and nights where i left with a couple bucks after tip out and still owing housefee, in the same week.

    i can understand working in tampa if you live there or somewhere nearby that's even worse, but coming to the area just to work is fucking retarded.
    I think this is true of the vast majority of Florida clubs. I tell new girls constantly to give it at least five days to decide if they like the club because even during season it is rare to constantly have amazing nights. Even our perfect tens and top hustlers have bad nights at least once a week. I learned long ago to view my earnings through weekly and monthly averages. And I love living in Florida but it's hard to express just how high the contact levels are and how stressful it can be to deal with night after night. Biting and grabbing dicks through pants and nipple sucking are pretty normal and most of the girls I work with don't seem to think it's dirty at all, though I still do and won't do it. You really do have to have a thick skin.

    And strangely, we've started having Tampa area girls showing up at the Cocoa Beach clubs lately, saying that the money was better in Cocoa Beach. They weren't super hotties but they weren't fug either, so I was surprised to hear that they thought it was worth driving three hours. According to them the only place with money is Mons and they couldn't get hired there. I'm pretty sure I could get hired there now that I've toned up and lost weight but I wrecked my car today so who knows when I'll be able to find out. I can always get rides to Cocoa Beach with my BFF but Tampa is not so easy.

    Anyhoo, yeah, I would never suggest anyone travel to Florida to work. Maybe pick up a few shifts if you're here visiting to see what's it's like and grab some extra cash, but I don't think the money would be worth taking a trip just to work. You gotta have regulars and/or hustle your ass off to make good money here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rareaspasia View Post
    And I love living in Florida but it's hard to express just how high the contact levels are and how stressful it can be to deal with night after night. Biting and grabbing dicks through pants and nipple sucking are pretty normal and most of the girls I work with don't seem to think it's dirty at all, though I still do and won't do it. You really do have to have a thick skin.
    Yes, this. It can get really really frustrating dealing with guys expecting stuff like this all the time, but then on the other hand you can hardly blame them when it seems every other girl is doing it but you (I know this isn't true, but dammit some nights it feels that way). I've had guys latch onto my nipples out of nowhere and start sucking. One time in particular I didn't even have my boobs anywhere near his face. I was straddling facing him, but sitting back. I looked away for a second and he just went for it. I'm still grossed out to this day when I think about it.


    Although in my (albeit limited) experience, the contact in Cocoa Beach is worse than in Tampa.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sierra. View Post
    Yes, this. It can get really really frustrating dealing with guys expecting stuff like this all the time, but then on the other hand you can hardly blame them when it seems every other girl is doing it but you (I know this isn't true, but dammit some nights it feels that way). I've had guys latch onto my nipples out of nowhere and start sucking. One time in particular I didn't even have my boobs anywhere near his face. I was straddling facing him, but sitting back. I looked away for a second and he just went for it. I'm still grossed out to this day when I think about it.


    Although in my (albeit limited) experience, the contact in Cocoa Beach is worse than in Tampa.
    I'm sorry that happened to you, it's happened to me too a few times, once with a seventy-something year old woman. Vomit. I have to watch guys like a hawk and turn around and dance facing away from them if they start making grouper faces towards my boobs. My nipples are pierced, no way I'm getting some nasty infection from a presumptuous fucktard. And I'm not surprised the contact levels in Cocoa Beach are higher, I think Tampa has a much larger "professional" dancer population and Cocoa Beach clubs are mostly staffed by local party chicks, the vast majority of whom are on pills and will do aaaaaanything to get the money for their fix. Seriously, I'm amazed how many girls are hooked on painkillers, it's really unbelievable. It gets worse every month. It wasn't this bad when I started almost three years ago.

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    That's why the only two clubs I reccomend are thee doll house and penthouse for low contact and mons isn't all that great right now or my gorgoeus columbian girlfriend would not be wanting to travel ans she's a top earner,

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    ^ I really like Mons, but then again I'm coming from Cocoa Beach so maybe I just have low expectations.

    Penthouse sucked when I was there, but I did dayshift (so I could do Mons at night) and honestly only did a few shifts before saying fuck it. The 7 hour min shifts were too much for me. I prefer to come and go as I please.

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    ^ Yeah I'm speaking for low contact. I know at mons most girls do the dick rub through the pants and my gf spoiled when we travel together 1000 is an average night for her so if she has a few 200 dollar nights at mons she gets pissed. Pm me I'm sure you know her she's definitley a top girl and gorgeous.

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    A lot of girls at Mons do NOT do the "dick rub"....a lot of NEW girls have been doing this bc money has been bad and some girls are getting more and more desperate for money....it's unfortunate. They are very young and naive and don't realize they dont have to do that. Just remember, Mons may be more of a "full contact" club such as touching boobs and the curves of the body but that doesn't mean squeezing, groping and pulling you down how "they" want you to "sit on their dick".

    YOU ARE THE BOSS, LADIES! Plus, its called a strip tease....you are SUPPOSED to make them think "maybe if i buy just one more, the NEXT dance she will sit on my dick.....oh ok not yet, myabe the NEXT dance..." and keep them strung along asss looong as possible

    Trust me, it still works...lol

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    LOL @ redner bashing the republican party while trying to get them to come into the club!! AND who the hell would pay $50 to get into a strip club??? Is $100/HR for an escort typical in tampa?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DanielleLee View Post
    A lot of girls at Mons do NOT do the "dick rub"....a lot of NEW girls have been doing this bc money has been bad and some girls are getting more and more desperate for money....it's unfortunate. They are very young and naive and don't realize they dont have to do that. Just remember, Mons may be more of a "full contact" club such as touching boobs and the curves of the body but that doesn't mean squeezing, groping and pulling you down how "they" want you to "sit on their dick".

    YOU ARE THE BOSS, LADIES! Plus, its called a strip tease....you are SUPPOSED to make them think "maybe if i buy just one more, the NEXT dance she will sit on my dick.....oh ok not yet, myabe the NEXT dance..." and keep them strung along asss looong as possible

    Trust me, it still works...lol
    My gf has worked there 12 years and my other worked there 7 and they both say it is! It's common to run your hand over it there and 2001 and she's a seasoned beautiful hustler and not a young newbie. Thoough I see it at most clubs nowadays even high end ones....

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