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    Default Opiate Withdrawal?

    Recently went on a rx spree for a month. Now I am weening myself off and going through withdrawals like crazy. Has anyone ever came down from it and found some type of medicine that helped ease it?


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    Default Re: Opiate Withdrawal?

    It would be good to get recommendations from your doctor. There are so many new more effective drugs to help wean you off opiates now.
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    Default Re: Opiate Withdrawal?

    ^ very good advice...
    but if for some reason you don't want to do that...ween off slower. like baby steps
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    Default Re: Opiate Withdrawal?

    Eh, I do not have insurance. So I was just wondering if there was anything over the counter that combats it. I read benedryl works. It does not really do much for me. Thanks anyways though.


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    You can look up natural ways to boost Dopamine via L-Tyrosine and natural foods.

    I don't know if this will help that much, but since the opiates target dopamine (from what I looked up on the net. I knew it was either serotonin or dopamine) you might help your brain out by boosting those levels since they're likely quite a bit depleted from a month long opiate bender.

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    You can get a perscription for Suboxone, but that's generally for really severe withdrawals. You start with a dose you're comfortable on, and then taper down over the course of a couple weeks. The rx is usually about $100 for 14 pills, and people take anywhere from 1.5-2 pills a day to just 1/4 pill per day. The important thing to know about Suboxone is that you MUST ALREADY BE IN WITHDRAWALS BEFORE YOU TAKE IT!! If you take it too early, it can throw you into precipitated withdrawal - in other words, it can make you sick as fuck. If you get it from a doctor, s/he will explain all that to you. If you get it off the street, make sure you research it before you use it. Again - this medication is for serious opiate withdrawal. Like, if you are so sick you cannot function without using, then Suboxone may be an option for you. (I don't have insurance either, but I was able to get a doctor's visit and get a Suboxone script. Your city may have a clinic for uninsured people like us, or you may have to just pay the doctor's fee if you really want to go this route).
    If you can get klonopin, you may want to take some for the worst of it. I was once in a medical detox program, and this is what they gave us (as well as sleeping pills, but please don't mix sleeping pills w/ other meds w/o doctor supervision. Seriously - I know someone who died that way). Klonopin actually helps to reduce the withdrawal symptoms somewhat, as well as konking you out so you can sleep through some of it. Don't mix with benzos or anything else, though.


    If you're not that sick, I've been hearing a lot about kratom recently. It's an herbal supplement that comes in powder form. It's currently legal, so you can order it off the internet. Apparently it's not an opiate, but it does fuck with your brain's opiate receptors and people do use is to treat opiate withdrawals. I don't have personal experience with it, but I've heard it can be addictive too, so you'd want to use it as a taper-down treatment. Try to take the least amount possible while still being able to function, and try to take less and less every day. http://www.scribd.com/doc/6390453/Se...l-Using-Kratom

    Also, little things like getting enough protein and taking multivitamins really does make a difference. I swear. If your body's healthier, it will manage the withdrawal better and you won't feel as bad. SAM-E supplements are also good. As mentioned above, L-Tyrosine can also help.

    DO NOT take any more opiates, because it will only prolongue the amount of time you feel shitty.

    And lastly, I know you didn't post this to get preached at, but PLEASE be careful with opiates. They're no joke. I started off with pills like vicodin, and for years I managed it fine. Then I got really sick one time, and I swore that I'd back off. By then I was already addicted, though, and I wasn't able to leave them alone.
    The vicodins will stop working, and you will have to get something stronger to feel good. Then you stop feeling good at all, and you have to spend all kinds of money just to feel normal (as in, not sick as a dog). For me, it took years to get from a casual pill popper to a junkie, but the road almost always leads there - especially if you're doing enough so that you're getting sick. I saw so many people, myself included, that "had it under control" - until they didn't. I'm in treatment now, but it's been a really hard road.
    Please just take it into consideration - it may be early enough so that you don't have to go through all that.
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    Default Re: Opiate Withdrawal?

    I don't have any advice, but good luck and good for you for wanting to stop your habit/addiction/whatever you want to call it.

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    -----Tl;dr version-----

    In order from treatment for most severe withdrawals to least severe:

    *Suboxone - need an rx, important to wait until actively in withdrawals before you take it or you'll get really sick. Use as taper-down treament.

    *Klonopin - can reduce symptoms, and helps you sleep through it. Important not to mix with benzos or sleeping pills.

    *Kratom powder - currently legal, can order off the internet. Is not an opiate, but affects opiate receptors in brain. Can be addictive, so use as taper-down treatment. (See link above or Google it).

    *Multivitamins, lots of protein, Sam-E supplements, L-Tyrosine supplements - when your body is healthier, withdrawal is less severe.

    The longer you keep taking opiates to help with the sickness, the longer you will have to deal with this. Stop taking them ASAP.
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    I used to be a heroin addict. I got thrown in a rehab that didn't believe in withdraw meds...so I had to quit cold turkey. It fucking sucks!!!

    Chocolate I heard is suppossed to help. I ate chocolate like a mad women...and I don't remember if it did anything...but its worth a try. I also tried to keep busy as hell. Even while lying in a corner puking. Good luck honey!

    Also...I drank a lot of hot herbal teas. I think it helped relax me and helped calm me down

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    Also, I strongly advise not taking anymore pills you can become addicted to.....and many things they can give you can cause you to switch dependencies. Such as methadone...kolonopin, xannax...

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    ^^ I whole heartedly agree that someone should take caution when using other medications to go through opiate withdrawal, but I wouldn't say that one should avoid them entirely.

    I was given klonopin in medical detox - they started us on a fairly high dose, and tapered it down for one week. After seven days - no more klonopin. I never had any issues with becoming addicted to klonopin.

    It's true that many of the things people use to get off of opiates are themselves addictive (suboxone, tramadol, klonopin, kratom) I don't think these things should be entirely written off. Short term use in a taper-down treatment of some of these medications can be a life-saver when it comes to opiate withdrawal - literally! When I was at the height of my addiction, I would have seizures when I went into cold-turkey withdrawal. I think the important thing is to either use these medications under a doctor's supervision OR research them before and while you are using them.

    Heroin withdrawals are pretty much over after seven days. I'm not entirely sure how long it takes to get through w/ds from painnkillers, but probably about the same or less. (Methadone is much longer - can take weeks or months). If you're still use your w/d aid after 6 or 7 days, then you need to stop immediately because you ARE switching your dependancy.
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    Suboxone truly is a miracle drug. I have never had a problem with opiates, but many people in my life have. I've seen people go through withdrawl with and without Suboxone and I can honestly say that Suboxone makes it much easier. However, everyone I know who was successful in getting off the pills took Suboxone for a year. Good luck, girl! (hugs)

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    Default Re: Opiate Withdrawal?

    I don't have a whole lot of suggestions, I just know what it's like to through withdrawal from fucking Opiates, and I wanted to send support.

    I took cold baths and benedryl. If I had been in a better state of mind perhaps I would have tried to research some of the things Natillia listed.

    Good luck babe. XOXO.



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    Is this one of the drugs that's helpful to sweat it out (along with the other things mentioned here)?

    OP, how're you hanging in there?

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    Taking GABA helps, you can get it in health food stores...I usually take 2 to start with and then 1.

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    Default Re: Opiate Withdrawal?

    Sorry about the delayed response. Thank you everyone for the support and what helps. I know this sounds bad but I have been taking gabapentin and Valium. I did try taking benedryl that had helped me before but this time it is bad.

    I feel terrible, depressed, and always angry. I know some of these feelings can be because I have PMDD. I want to just want to get fucked up one last time. I know I can't though. I can't really seem to function with out it. Bleh, sorry for the weird rant.


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    Sorry to hear you're going through this.

    Every time I've detoxed, my emotions go haywire. All the things I was avoiding by taking opiates (painkillers aren't just for physical pain!) came back in a huge rush once I was not on opiates anymore. I spent this summer coming off of methadone (I had been on it for several years), and I've been in a pretty deep depession. This is unfortunately just a part of the process, but it doesn't last forever. There's probably more to the story, but I would bet at least part of your emotional turmoil is coming from all that stuff coming to the surface now.

    Are you being treated for PMDD, or any other kind of mood disorder? (I'm not actually asking for an answer if you don't want to tell, but if you're not, it may be a good idea to look into it).

    I really wish you the best. If you can get any kind of support or treatment, PLEASE go for it. Life as an addict is super depressing, and I don't wish that on anyone.
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    Default Re: Opiate Withdrawal?

    I do have PMDD but I don't have health insurance so I can't be treated for it.


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    take time off of work and be sick. it will get better. You will be cold/hot and uncomfortable, throw up but it will be over in a few days/week.

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    Hey, just wanted to lend my support, hope you're doing ok I have a friend who got a little to close with codeine over the summer and is now cutting it out completely, i know how hard it's been for him, good for you for doing this!

    I don't know if this would help or not, since it acts mostly on serotonin *i think*, but the above ^ friend, has mentioned that taking 5HTP daily helpshim keep a more positive mood, and helps keep the depression at bay. I've taken 5HTP a couple times the day after rolling on m, and it kills any come-down for me, so it should give you a mood boost too. And you can just get it at a health food store

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    In detox, if your symptoms are not severe enough for methadone or suboxone (which are both highly addictive and hell to withdraw from in themselves) they will give you seroquel, clonodine (different from Klonopin which is mentioned above) and calcium. Obviously calcium you can get anywhere, the other two I don't know if you can get them without prescription, but the great thing about them is that they are non-habit-forming, will help you sleep a little bit better and reduce the bone and muscle pain.

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    How is the detox coming along? I myself have been addicted to opiates for about 4 years and I haven't gone more than a day with out them. I have had some personal trauma in my life and for me opiates help me sale through life a little smoother.

    But I am coming to the point where I would also like to try quitting. I am scared. PM me if u need someone to talk to about this Im here to offer support.

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    smoke marijuana, trust me. it'll help you eat, help you sleep, ease some pain, ease depression, keep your mind preoccupied and not thinking about the pain. i know its a little unconventional but i went through this and i really just locked myself in a room and smoked til i would fall asleep. I started to get strength back and not feel like shit after a week or two of just relaxing, eating, and being stoned. I know using one "drug" to help you ween off another is dumb, but... its pot. either way, good luck

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    Iboga. Not legal in US. A strong STRONG medicine. I have only recently heard of it myself. I don't even know where you would find it... likely Canada. I hear it is a 3 day experience and when you are done you are DONE: brain in total reset, cravings gone.

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    *hugs* to everyone in this thread

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