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    Default Hiring differences: upscale -vs-neighborhood clubs

    In the http://forum.stripperweb.com/showthread.php?t=158475 (Hiring Procedures), I was asking about the different hiring practices, but now it just struck me that (at least in my personal experience) is easier to get hired in nicer, upscale places than in lesser, neighborhood clubs.

    In the first ones, all I've done is file the paper work, show my ID, fill a schedule, and work right away, while in the lesser clubs, it seems it had been harder (most of those clubs ask me to file an application and say "we'll call you").

    Could it be because many girls think is harder to get into a nicer, upscale club?

    I would rather work in one of those lesser clubs since they're closer to my place, rather than commuting to other cities (like DC, Charlotte, and Baltimore) to dance in upscale places where I had no problem getting gigs (I went to some clubs in those cities out of curiosity, and actually got hired). Is very exausting to travel, despite I could afford it; or the money used for traveling expenses could be used for something better, like a boob job or paying debt.

    I'm probably making a big deal out of it, but my mental and physical sanity would prefer a closer, smaller, lesser neighborhood club than a larger, nicer, upscale club.





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    Default Re: Hiring differences: upscale -vs-neighborhood clubs

    It's way harder to get hired at upscale clubs. Don't know which ones you are refering to that you had an easier time in but I can guarantee that the big city top clubs will be hardest to get hired at because that's were most the money is and were they have the most girls applying on a daily basis, you know places in vegas, chicago, new york any big chain club for instance.

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    Default Re: Hiring differences: upscale -vs-neighborhood clubs

    I've experienced three, not two different types of clubs: upscale, neighborhood bar types, and dives. To sum it up upscale you need to be perfect or close to it, and dives usually hire anyone. The midlevel ones are a bit tricky because some are picky whereas others aren't.

    However a lot depends on the area as well. My personal experience is dives literally hired me when I walked in and often didn't care if I auditioned. Many of them offered money upfront. With midlevel they usually required an audition and possibly to look at me in my outfits (one wanted nude looks which I wrote about in another thread). The upscale clubs wanted me to audition and look a certain way. They wanted my hair and makeup done nicely and my outfit to be nice (often a long gown).

    I liked midlevel the best because I wasn't ashamed to work there but didn't have to compete with a lot of Barbie looking dancers with my dark hair and muscular not skinny body.

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    Default Re: Hiring differences: upscale -vs-neighborhood clubs

    Quote Originally Posted by Jay12 View Post
    In the (Hiring Procedures), I was asking about the different hiring practices, but now it just struck me that (at least in my personal experience) is easier to get hired in nicer, upscale places than in lesser, neighborhood clubs.

    In the first ones, all I've done is file the paper work, show my ID, fill a schedule, and work right away, while in the lesser clubs, it seems it had been harder (most of those clubs ask me to file an application and say "we'll call you").

    Could it be because many girls think is harder to get into a nicer, upscale club?

    I would rather work in one of those lesser clubs since they're closer to my place, rather than commuting to other cities (like DC, Charlotte, and Baltimore) to dance in upscale places where I had no problem getting gigs (I went to some clubs in those cities out of curiosity, and actually got hired). Is very exausting to travel, despite I could afford it; or the money used for traveling expenses could be used for something better, like a boob job or paying debt.

    I'm probably making a big deal out of it, but my mental and physical sanity would prefer a closer, smaller, lesser neighborhood club than a larger, nicer, upscale club.

    It just solely depends on your look. If you're naturally really thin, low BMI, and have at least one great feature (stunning face, big boobs, runway model look, etc... upscale clubs seem to HATE big butts & thicker thighs) then it is easier to get hired at upscale clubs. The more mid-range or divey club would be very hesitant to hire you because they'd look at you and think you'd leave right away because you'd make so much more $$$ at an upscale club. So a lot of the time they don't even bother or don't put you on schedule because they know you're going to leave.

    Usually those expenses used to work at upscale clubs generally pay off. Spray tan, hair, nails, glamour makeup, fine lingerie, all that. At least it did for me. It really is just trial and error though.

    If the neighborhood club seems hesitant to hire you, just be honest with them. "I would rather work in one of those lesser clubs since they're closer to my place, rather than commuting to other cities (like DC, Charlotte, and Baltimore) to dance in upscale places where I had no problem getting gigs"

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    @ Kellydancer^I like those the most too!

    @GlamourRouge-great advice; I'll try it!!!!

    There was one just like that in Elizabeth City, and it was the best one ever!!!!
    The money was decent (high 200's to mid 300's was the norm over there). However, they changed managers, and when I came back after doing something else (I was studying to get a certification), I wasn't re hired. I was given some bogus excuse ("you never worked on our sister club in Chesapeake, Va? Hmmm, I don't know, haven't seen you").

    I tried the Stadium in DC once, and despite they hired me right away, dancers were extremely nasty to me (there was lots of black girls the day I went, and I was the only white one). Plus, the four hour drive is too much; no matter how good the money was over there.

    Now that some of you guys in here had mentioned the looks thing, I've noticed that in mid level neighborhood clubs, most girls have the "girl next door" look, while I have a very exotic physique. It does make sense now having an easier time at upscale places, but still, the drive, the lodging, and the food are extra expenses, and that money can be used to save for other things, like I mentioned.





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    Default Re: Hiring differences: upscale -vs-neighborhood clubs

    it just struck me that (at least in my personal experience) is easier to get hired in nicer, upscale places than in lesser, neighborhood clubs.
    I have to agree with the other posters that truly upscale clubs are the most selective in regard to dancer 'qualifications'. However, if you are lucky enough to have a near perfect body, a near perfect face, and good conversational skills / persona, all of these attributes are going to be immediately apparent to the person doing the hiring at truly upscale clubs. Thus you may not be aware of the fact that other girls who have a less than perfect body, a less than perfect face, or bad conversational skills / persona, would face an entirely different reaction from the person doing the hiring at truly upscale clubs than you got.

    Also agreed that neighborhood club management may have reasons for not immediately hiring a top shelf dancer that also aren't apparent to that top shelf dancer. Among these are a fear of 'drama' from less than perfect girls already working at the club when faced with 'upscale' competition, a fear that the top shelf dancer is going to be a 'management' problem requesting the most profitable schedule, leaving early, etc. And lastly there is usually an assumption on the part of neighborhood club managment that a top shelf dancer might not provide as high of an earnings potential for that club as a 'lesser' dancer ... if the 'lesser' dancer is willing to provide 'extras' as a sales tool for private dances / CR's from which the club collects a 'cut'. while the top shelf dancer is not.

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    ^Hmmm, yeah; that does makes a whole lot of sense!

    I guess my accent had made up for my lack of boobs (mines are medium size), hahahahahahaha!!!!!

    OH, the whole "extras" thing, of course; thanks for pointing it out, Melonie!!!!

    In my first club (a dive), the lesser looking dancers provided extras like if it was the most normal thing, and since I refused to do them, I felt obligated to leave. Never dare to talk shit about the other dancers, but some of them did hated me.





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    Default Re: Hiring differences: upscale -vs-neighborhood clubs

    I had that problem to at dives and agree with Melonie. Most of the girls at the dives really are bottom of the barrel and they know this. These clubs are where the way too old and ugly and fat dancers go.

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    I knew a dancer in that dive I mentioned that was just working there to burn the baby weight. She lost the baby weight in about three months, then went somewhere else.





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    Quote Originally Posted by GlamourRouge View Post
    It just solely depends on your look. If you're naturally really thin, low BMI, and have at least one great feature (stunning face, big boobs, runway model look, etc... upscale clubs seem to HATE big butts & thicker thighs) then it is easier to get hired at upscale clubs.
    When you say big butts and thicker thighs, are you talking about body proportions or absolute size? I'm pear shaped so my butt and thighs will always be big in comparison to the rest of my body, but when I'm at the lower end of my weight range no one ever says they're thick/big/whatever. People tell me that upscale clubs in NYC would definitely hire me, but I think they're blowing smoke up my ass because I'm a 34A-26-37 and even for a 34A my boobs aren't great. I'll eventually give it a shot but I'd rather know my chances beforehand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lol1337a View Post
    When you say big butts and thicker thighs, are you talking about body proportions or absolute size? I'm pear shaped so my butt and thighs will always be big in comparison to the rest of my body, but when I'm at the lower end of my weight range no one ever says they're thick/big/whatever. People tell me that upscale clubs in NYC would definitely hire me, but I think they're blowing smoke up my ass because I'm a 34A-26-37 and even for a 34A my boobs aren't great. I'll eventually give it a shot but I'd rather know my chances beforehand.
    Both. Unless maybe its literally 100% muscle. I literally overheard a top guy from DejaVu talk about how he refuses to hire girls with big butts or thick thighs because it "attracts the wrong clientele we don't want" (ghetto guys?) But I guess it also depends on the hiring manager's preferences too.

    Breast size actually doesn't matter too much, I've noticed. A lot of upscale clubs would rather hire a thin girl with no boobs over a curvy one with big or fake ones. Upscale clubs, most of all, seem to care about 2 things: 1.) really low BMIs, and 2.) looking polished & glamourous

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    ^ I work in upscale clubs in manhattan, it depends on who's hiring I brought a few friends with me who were hotter than ALOT of the girls there and could not get hired. Manhattan they're picky with out of town girls more than locals I think because I worked at scores in the hey day and half the girls at the two clubs I was hired at would not get hired back then. Their pickier in denver.

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    ^My BMI is not too low (my body fat % is actually low, which is entirely different to BMI; the BMI is useless on people that have a high amount of muscle like myself), but I do look slender (so visually it does gives the impression of a low BMI), and I'm educated. That seems to be another possible factor...





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    I went up to DC about 5 years ago and got hired at a club n Arlington. I decided the drive was too long myself. I do know what ur talking about bc I live in ur area. Here it is hard in the smaller neighborhood bars. They r picky and if u dont have their "look". They dont want u. I would say to try all the clubs n the area. At least give them a shot, the ones that will hire u. That will allow u to pick and choose. I work at multiple bars bc honestly I bore as well as the patrons w always being at the same bar.

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    ^In Cheetah's and Headlights is the same people ALL THE FUCKING TIME!!!!!!!





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    Default Re: Hiring differences: upscale -vs-neighborhood clubs

    I think there is actually no rhyme or reason! Haha. I just know that if a club won't hire me right away, I tend to always just wander somewhere else. Sometimes a dive was disorganized and so I went to a nice club to work faster even though the dive was closer. Sometimes there was a hiring delay at a nice place, so I wandered to a dive. I am a huge beleiver that if I club wants a girl and that girl has taken time out of her day to get stripper ready, that she should be able to work right away !! But .... I also realize that some clubs might have to give newer dancers not as many days a week as established dancers if they cap girls.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jay12 View Post
    ^In Cheetah's and Headlights is the same people ALL THE FUCKING TIME!!!!!!!

    Yea and unless ur one of the popular girls which I am not then the regulars wont tip u. I make more money off non bar regulars. And of course the few who become my personal regulars.

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    ps.. As u well know many of the girls on SW dont realize that the steady earning potential is very low compared to what most make but around here our avg shift is 2 hrs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jay12 View Post
    In the http://forum.stripperweb.com/showthread.php?t=158475 (Hiring Procedures), I was asking about the different hiring practices, but now it just struck me that (at least in my personal experience) is easier to get hired in nicer, upscale places than in lesser, neighborhood clubs.

    In the first ones, all I've done is file the paper work, show my ID, fill a schedule, and work right away, while in the lesser clubs, it seems it had been harder (most of those clubs ask me to file an application and say "we'll call you").
    I totally know what you're talking about. I am pretty darn hot and I have been hired at the most upscale club in Philadelphia and also at dives in the subarbs. It was not "difficult" to be hired at either club assuming you meet the standards. What I think you are talking about is what sort of occurs after you're hired.

    At the upscale club there are typically 40 girls working every shift and you are not required to put in a schedule, you are simply instructed to show up for training or your first shit after you are hired.

    At the dive there are typically 5 girls working every shift and the schedules are done one month in advance. Therefore even though it is easier to get hired a dive lookswise it is more difficult to begin right away and be put on the schedule simply because the place is small and runs differently than a large club.

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    Quote Originally Posted by michele11 View Post
    ^ I work in upscale clubs in manhattan, it depends on who's hiring I brought a few friends with me who were hotter than ALOT of the girls there and could not get hired. Manhattan they're picky with out of town girls more than locals I think because I worked at scores in the hey day and half the girls at the two clubs I was hired at would not get hired back then. Their pickier in denver.
    True.

    I think it depends on the manager's mood. I've seen hot stripper material girls get turned down & some meh or chubby girls get hired.

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    Yes chubby chicks abound in new york know a days, hard to believe since manhattan use to be super picky.

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    Default Re: Hiring differences: upscale -vs-neighborhood clubs

    I am not good enough to work at most upscale clubs in large cities. However, I am certainly prettier than most girls who work in a dive. For me, that is less competition, which equals more money.

    I love to visit "Well-renown" dives that are notorious for extras and etc. Being a clean dancer, and a new girl, I suppose everyone wants to have a taste of "fresh meat", but they won't get anything! lol

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    Another thing is that some upscale clubs won't hire too many girls with dark hair at one time, and they won't hire girls with facial piercings or many tattoos.

    I have four tattoos and my lips pierced (diamond studs, they look expensive) but Ricks still said no to me in NOLA. This spring when DJVU slows down I'm going to head to the Penthouse in Detroit for an audition just to see what they say. If they hire me I'll work there for a couple nights, but no more than that because the place is extras ridden and gets raided a lot.
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    I love to visit "Well-renown" dives that are notorious for extras and etc. Being a clean dancer, and a new girl, I suppose everyone wants to have a taste of "fresh meat", but they won't get anything! lol
    These days, for better or worse, the existance of strip club review websites / customer blog sites etc. is making it increasingly difficult for clean dancers to cash in on the 'fresh meat' angle. Today, all it takes is a couple of days for 'disappointed' customers to make posts to that effect, and many of the club's regular customers will then avoid spending money on the new girl who doesn't 'deliver'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kat w View Post
    At the upscale club there are typically 40 girls working every shift and you are not required to put in a schedule, you are simply instructed to show up for training or your first shit after you are hired.
    I remember how nervous I was before my first shit at an upscale club. I drank Metamucil and drank laxative tea the night before because I was worried mine wouldn't measure up to the other girls'. But luckily, everything came out fine, and after that first shit, I banked.








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