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    Ok ladies, this question may be answered on another thread somewhere but I can't find it. I searched and I see lots of stuff about being suspended or given a "time out" but not about earnings.

    If you're suspended from Streamate, do they take your pay for the week in which you did the thing that got you suspended?
    For example, if you showed pussy in free chat yesterday, someone turned you in for it and they suspend you until Saturday, do you lose your income for the whole week starting the Sunday before? Do you just lose it for the day in question? Do some people not lose their income at all?

    I heard a girl on a couple's cam say that she wouldn't do a bj in free anymore b/c she got suspended and they took her pay for the week.

    I am concerned about someone who might try to make trouble for me. I didn't show anything in free chat. But something happened in a gold show. After the show, a few guys said something about it in free chat, really making a MUCH bigger deal out of it than they should've. One guy e-mailed me and told me to give him his money back. The whole thing was really stupid. I did the whole show all the way to the end but some people just have unrealistic expectations, and the fact that the guys were being total assholes about it in the show made it even harder for me to do the show that I said I would do.

    If a few guys e-mail support and ask for their money back, are they gonna suspend me? If they suspend me, will they take all my money for the week?

    I'm not looking for speculation; I'm asking the people who have had first-hand experience with being suspended or reprimanded in some way.



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    Default Re: When you're suspended from SM...

    From experience of having SM members in DP suspended for short periods, so far luckily no earnings have been taken off that I know of.

    They may view it differently if people are asking for money back though.

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    Default Re: When you're suspended from SM...

    They don't take your earnings unless you were caught stealing customers.

    I have been suspended twice for being naughty and breaking the rules. I was paid on time.



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    Default Re: When you're suspended from SM...

    Quote Originally Posted by Cam_Model_Jess View Post
    I'm not looking for speculation; I'm asking the people who have had first-hand experience with being suspended or reprimanded in some way.


    That might have sounded bitchy and I really didn't mean for it to. I'm a little worried right now.

    Thank you, ladies, for your answers. If you haven't responded yet and you've had experience with this, I welcome your input.

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    Well, it's been 24 hours and I haven't heard anything from them yet, so I'm hoping that means I'm safe. I got one really nasty e-mail from a customer but that's all, and I think there were at least 40 guys in the show. I'm hoping the guys just let it blow over.

    I didn't steal customers or anything like that. It was just something unavoidable that happened during the show and the guys were total assholes about it. It's amazing how mean these guys can be. The two bad things about the gold show that I experienced were 1. Since they can all see what the others are typing, they tend to really gang up and make the show an extremely unpleasant experience. If one of them is unhappy, mentioning it tends to set off the others. 2. You can't end the show if you want to get paid. Even though I felt like crying, I had to keep going. I had made a pretty good amt of money off that show, knew I wouldn't be able to do another one that day, and I didn't want them to purposely drive me into ending the show so they could get their money back. They saw a hell of a lot for $5 (a 20 minute show, damn it) which is 1/16th of my normal rate. They were just jerks and I really hope that if some of them complain, SM will just give the money back to them and let it blow over. I've never caused the site an issue before and I never purposely rip customers off/ lie to them. There are lots of performers on that site who do nothing in their shows, rip off the guys all the time, and their accounts are still open.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cam_Model_Jess View Post
    Well, it's been 24 hours and I haven't heard anything from them yet, so I'm hoping that means I'm safe. I got one really nasty e-mail from a customer but that's all, and I think there were at least 40 guys in the show. I'm hoping the guys just let it blow over.

    I didn't steal customers or anything like that. It was just something unavoidable that happened during the show and the guys were total assholes about it. It's amazing how mean these guys can be. The two bad things about the gold show that I experienced were 1. Since they can all see what the others are typing, they tend to really gang up and make the show an extremely unpleasant experience. If one of them is unhappy, mentioning it tends to set off the others. 2. You can't end the show if you want to get paid. Even though I felt like crying, I had to keep going. I had made a pretty good amt of money off that show, knew I wouldn't be able to do another one that day, and I didn't want them to purposely drive me into ending the show so they could get their money back. They saw a hell of a lot for $5 (a 20 minute show, damn it) which is 1/16th of my normal rate. They were just jerks and I really hope that if some of them complain, SM will just give the money back to them and let it blow over. I've never caused the site an issue before and I never purposely rip customers off/ lie to them. There are lots of performers on that site who do nothing in their shows, rip off the guys all the time, and their accounts are still open.
    Exactly the reasons why gold shows are NOT worth it, IMO!

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    Quote Originally Posted by loveshooks View Post
    hey Cam_Model, I hope you do get to keep your cash, but more than anything, I just wanted to say good for you for standing up to the bullying of the jerks and finishing your show....I'll never understand why some people seem to enjoy being cruel, but it is far to f*&(ing common, both on cam and in 'real life'.
    I don't know what exactly happened during your show, but we're not machines; we're human and ish happens. I hope you can mentally shelve it away and move on to bigger n better custies...with ALL your $$$ from that gold show
    peace and $$$$
    Thanks. You're a sweetie. Yep, I'm getting pretty sick of the jerks. It's gotten to the point where if anyone during the countdown makes a request more than once, repeats a request after I've said no to it, mentions the price of my show or tells me what I should do differently, tells me that I should do something that I say I'm not going to do in the show, or tells me that he'll pay if I only do X thing, I automatically ban. Unfortunately, that leaves me with a 75% asshole rate IN the show instead of an 85% asshole rate.

    I never had this kind of issue with my regular shows. Sure, I'd get the stray asshole. But this whole Gold Show thing reminds me of Invasion of The Body Snatchers or some kind of Tales from The Crypt storyline. Someone installed some kind of auto-asshole subprograming in the Party Chat feature. The second the guys access your room, anyone with an A, B, or AB bloodtype will automatically turn into a hormone-riddled, slobbering moron whose sole purpose is to beg, manipulate and humiliate.

    If I wasn't struggling to make money with my regular shows, I'd say screw the feature altogether. But you're right, I won that round. They tried to make me look like some loser but they were the ones treating me like a subhuman whore over their $5... and they got a hell of a lot for that $5 anyway. I ended up making my goal for the day and all they did was ruin their own experience by whining like little bitches.

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    AW Jess..sorry you had to deal with that. I just zone out, try not to pay attention to that one guy barking orders during the whole show..Next time ladies, we need to tell the directors.."shouldn't your hand be on your dick and not on your keyboard?". LOL


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    Quote Originally Posted by kittykrane View Post
    AW Jess..sorry you had to deal with that. I just zone out, try not to pay attention to that one guy barking orders during the whole show..Next time ladies, we need to tell the directors.."shouldn't your hand be on your dick and not on your keyboard?". LOL
    Yeah, I tried that. But this time it wasn't just one guy doing it. One guy started it with a mean comment and immediately a bunch of guys joined in and ran with it. Unfortunately, though the guys were being total jerks, they had a valid complaint. But I could've made it right under normal circumstances. The way I felt? Like a $5 whore who 40 guys have chipped in to pay and then they spend the next 20 minutes insulting me and telling me what a rip off I am and what a worthless whore I am. In a regular show, I would've stopped the stream. But I hustled in free chat to make that $200 or whatever it was, and unfortunately I feel like I'm being asked more and more to make the choice between money and dignity.

    I tried to do regular shows this morning and it was a disaster. The guys were in ass mode again (not like Craig Ferguson ass mode either haha). I had two guys in a row who I ended up blocking just so they wouldn't give me a bad rating. The first one told me to do something, I said I'm in the middle of this request right now but I'll do that next. He repeated his request, waited 5 seconds, then wrote, "WASTE OF MONEY." I blocked him. The next guy told me to turn around. I said I would in a second. He repeated his request twice in the next second. I turned around. Then he told me to do anal & I told him I don't do anal. He repeated his request twice. Then I banned him. So, of the four guys who have paid me today, two are now banned.

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    We need to train guys that gold shows are SHOWS not private sessions. I've seen some hosts clearly state that fact and that they do not take requests during gold shows and to go exclusive after the show if they have specific things they want to see. I've also seen some who only allow the highest contributor to make a request.

    Also, for group shows I'm not going to allow them to treat it like exclusive either. I seem to get enough guys rating 5 stars to cancel out most of the low ratings.


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    Quote Originally Posted by laurielegs View Post
    We need to train guys that gold shows are SHOWS not private sessions. I've seen some hosts clearly state that fact and that they do not take requests during gold shows and to go exclusive after the show if they have specific things they want to see. I've also seen some who only allow the highest contributor to make a request.

    Also, for group shows I'm not going to allow them to treat it like exclusive either. I seem to get enough guys rating 5 stars to cancel out most of the low ratings.
    I do not encourage the guys to treat the premier chat like it's an exclusive chat, but they are doing it anyway. It's always been like this to a certain extent, but I've noticed that it's getting worse and worse. I've never had a guy tell me that my show is a waste of money until recently. I've had a lot of really negative comments recently and I've been doing this for over a year.

    The site is going in a certain direction and it's becoming more and more negative. The guys basically treat me like shit all the time. I'm not rude to them, so there's no reason for them to act like that, but they do. I told my husband that being on SM now is like being in one of those relationships where you're constantly bickering with your partner. It's supposed to be a positive experience where the guys come to experience an uplift in their day. However, it seems like it's turning into a place where the guys go when they want to make themselves feel better by treating someone else like absolute crap. The whole thing seems very aggressive and angry to me, and it's getting harder and harder for me to sign on. For the most part, I don't participate in the bickering, I just ignore, kick or ban, but it's becoming a bit overwhelming. Unfortunately, this behavior is bleeding over into my regular shows now.

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    ^^^ SOOO TRUE!
    When I first signed up with streamate, over a year ago I noticed the sites members as a whole were very rude. I have been on alot of sites and have never encountered the things I do on SM. It has only gotten worse over time. I have never been on a site where the guys are so blatantly disrespectful for NO reason. I thought it was just my room but after reading about so many others experiences on the site, I know it is not just me or the crowd I attract.

    I dont understand WHY we as models face such severe consequences when we break the rules, and have fear over losing pay if we do get "fired" but yet, the members can say/do what they want and they never get repremanded. The only time I have seen sites block members is if the member has done a chargeback lol.

    There are good seeds out there if you can call them that but as a whole the guys on these sites are closet perverts with fantasies they could never speak of irl. We are their only outlet, and it can get ugly. Remember this. It is not you!

    I know how you feel but at the same time, do not let these guys make you get upset, please dont. They win if they ruin your day/make you cry/make you wonder about them and their sick ways. please do not let them. You are here trying to make a living, they are here because they are miserable loser fucktards trapped in their own perversions. if being rude and mean to u is what they call fun, and helps them feel better for being such, let them have their fun. You will have something to show for it in the end, money. they will have nothing but their hand and an empty wallet. You are the bigger person.

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