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    When you're one of two or three dancers, should you help the others? As in, let them try and hustle a customer before you? Like, she's been onstage whenever a customer walks in. Should you wait to hustle the customer until she's had a chance?

    I ask because I've made all the money today, not much Maybe $130. But she's always onstage whenever a guy walks in, so I get first go. Should I let them have a chance or just keep going as I was?
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    Quote Originally Posted by papillonluvr View Post
    When you're one of two or three dancers, should you help the others? As in, let them try and hustle a customer before you? Like, she's been onstage whenever a customer walks in. Should you wait to hustle the customer until she's had a chance?

    I ask because I've made all the money today, not much Maybe $130. But she's always onstage whenever a guy walks in, so I get first go. Should I let them have a chance or just keep going as I was?

    Getting soft in our old age are we

    Eh it depends. If the guy isn't going to spend a decent amount on you, and you really like the girl, then yeah throw them a bone. But if you don't know her or don't like her or both why should you bother helping? Would they do the same for you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by tempest666 View Post
    Would they do the same for you?

    I think this rules in a strip club environment. I've done the 'nice stripper' thing and it's never been reciprocated. Sure, I'll do it for girls I actually like, and get on with OTC - but I know they'd do the same for me, or come find me when a guy wants a two girl VIP or whatever.

    My good deed of the day usually occurs outside the club where it doesn't hurt my money. Maybe my karma will suffer but a girl's gotta eat!

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    No, probably not. If the customer were interested in the other girl he'd either get dances from her after the ones he gets from you, go sit at her stage, or turn you down and wait for her.
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    i am losing my fucking mind and i really just want this chloroform dream because i think that would just get me right with jesus.

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    Puppy-Chan

    She's on stage. The customer can see her. He doesn't want her, he wants you. Customers aren't stupid as they seem; he's probably well aware that if he wanted a dance with the girl on stage rather than you, he could wait 10 minutes for her to finish her set, and tip her in the meantime. But he's not doing that - he's busy being hustled/entertained by you.

    It's sweet that you're so considerate, but go make your money and don't feel guilty about the other girls lack of opportunity. If the men wanted a dance from her, they'd get one.

    BTW, I've mentally nicknamed you PuppyChan. Because I can't spell Pappilliuon off the top of my head (case in point...) and never seem to be able to pronounce it when I read it. Chan is a term of endearment in Japan. So, you are now Puppy-Chan!



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    Quote Originally Posted by tempest666 View Post
    Getting soft in our old age are we
    Yes, I guess I am lol. I know when I was beginning I would have been like "tough luck".

    Quote Originally Posted by 4everresolutions View Post
    Puppy-Chan
    Awwww, that's cute!


    I guess everyone has their days, and no, I don't think she'd do the same for me. I did end up giving her one chance, and the guy turned her down anyways and went for me. Oh, well.
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    Yeah, customers are big boys, they can make up their mind on who they want dances from themselves. Of course, it's always nice to ask the customer if you can tip her on stage for him before you go for dances. Not sure how it works where you are, but since stage tipping isn't the norm here, it tends to be a big deal so the tipper lays on the stage and the dancer goes all out. Very fun for customers when a fellow dancer is the tipper! Nice way to spread the wealth and maybe even get some duo dances.

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    I have done that for girls when they were new and for some reason the newness isn't attracting money.
    Last edited by Aslinn; 09-07-2011 at 07:21 PM. Reason: spelling errors galore.

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    PUPPY-CHAN! Haha adorable!

    Hmmmm...Only if they have done the same for you...or you know they would do the same. And even then...I wouldn't do it regularly. I would do it only if it was my friend up there (who is not anywhere near as pretty as me) and I knew she had rent due...then I would maybe consider hiding in the corner til after she had the opportunity to try to sell a dance. No girl should get offended though no matter what if you go and try to get dances while they are on stage. Its the name of the game. And I agree...your not forcing the guy to get dances! Your doing your job....trying to sell them.

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    It's nice when girls want to be fair and let other people have a shot at making money... but at the club in question... you never know when the guy is going to buy 1 dance, give you 2 bucks on stage and take off... or spend 3 hours in the CR.
    It's hard to give other girls a shot at a club like that... big spenders mixed right in with guys on their lunch break who don't even want change for $1's. Personally, I wouldn't risk it.

    Puppy-chan. <3
    Quote Originally Posted by camille27 View Post
    i am losing my fucking mind and i really just want this chloroform dream because i think that would just get me right with jesus.

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    ^ OMG YES! Cuteness overload. That's what I'll picture from now on.

    Edit: that would be an adorable Halloween Costume
    Last edited by 4everresolutions; 09-07-2011 at 08:56 PM. Reason: D'aw



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    I always try to help.

    I mean, feel free to disagree, I personally believe cultivating good relationships with other dancers is a self-preservation tactic.

    First, even if the dancers you help don't return the favor, at least they won't try to fuck with you. They'll have nothing but nice things to say about you, and if they find something not so nice to say, the other dancers who you've helped will back you up.

    Second, management will see you as an asset. My managers loved me because I always tried to help new girls, girls who were struggling to lose baby weight, girls who weren't great hustlers, etc. Now I'm leaving for a few months, and they've got a job waiting for me when I return. They don't do this for everyone.

    Third, custies will see you as "the nice girl with a good attitude." They may be dumb, but they're perceptive. If you're popular with other club workers, they'll be tempted to find out why.

    But this is just my experience, and yours may vary.

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    Its just the luck of the draw... you are just as entitled as she is to make money. One day she'll get lucky and probably not help you. I guess it depends on your relationship. If I can get other girls in on a show who are my friends I will... but Im not going out of my way for a random.

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    I'm reading The Prince by Machiavelli. Hmmmmm I wonder what a strip club would be like run by him

    There is no right or wrong answer to this. I personally am not Polly Pureheart. If it's expedient for me to toss out a bone I will. But if it's a slow day and the kill is mine for the taking, hell naw motherfuckers. You can bet I'm gonna sit on that kill and guard it. Maybe after I've eaten my fill I'll leave the scraps but the big parts are mine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aslinn View Post
    I have done that for girls when they were new and for some reason the newness isn't attracting money.

    What the fresh meat isn't attracting the sharks
    "Fake tits are like Kevlar. They don't guarantee your chances of survival but they sure as hell improve it."
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    Don't give away customers - share. If he has money for it, suggest a double dance.

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    Ive been nice to girls like that before, then they never help me, I say do your own thing, Ive hadgirls that I have helped with doubles then they expect it all the time walking up to me when im with any customers I don't like it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chanzep View Post
    Ive been nice to girls like that before, then they never help me, I say do your own thing, Ive hadgirls that I have helped with doubles then they expect it all the time walking up to me when im with any customers I don't like it.
    I remember 2 girls last winter having a fight because one of them always tried to invite the other into VIP with her, and it was never reciprocated.

    I have to say I prefer not to share my own customer, as I can't stand doing double dances, and would rather he spent twice the money on me. But I will happily recommend/call over a friend of mine if there is at least one more guy at the table.

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    I won't give dances away that could be mine. Instead I will ask the guy for tip money and tip the girls I like between $1-$3 a set. Hey, it's better than nothing

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    It depends on who the other two girls are. If they are easy to get along with and aren't over bearing hustlers, depending on how much money I have or the time I might wait.

    I did this the other day and I stopped myself from walking over to the guy. The girl got off stage and didn't sell him so I went up after her and took him back. There were way more than three girls but it just worked out the way it did.

    If a guy is checking me out and she's naked and I'm not, that's a pretty clear indicator who he's interested in.

    As long as you're not one of those annoying dancers that sits on a guys lap so he can't see the stage and then has to force him into the VIP - then I think you're still working on the side of ethics.

    I agree with comments like "Luck of the draw" and that customers are big boys and can make their own decisions (being coerced or not).

    My cliche response is "you have to play it by ear".

    You're there to make money just like everybody else.




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    I wouldn't. It's just her luck if that keeps happening to her throughout the day. Down the line, it will probably just be your luck. Sucks for her, but it's silly of you to sit on your hands so that a customer can fork over his cash to another dancer. Being nice is... nice, but that's about it. It doesn't profit you. Case in point: a friend of a friend who I actually liked had just started at my club, it was her birthday, and, in an attempt to be nice, I told her to go sit with one of the only guys in the club on a dead night, even though I could have easily gotten to him first. She ended up making over $100 off him while I literally sat at the bar for 2 hours straight and made $2 off stage from the one other customer who didn't even want girls to sit with him. This girl was giddy, sure, but did it really do anything for me? No. I wasted 2 hours at work for nothing, basically gave away the only paying custy, and it's not like she ever returned the favor. In fact, later in the night, she completely fucked with my hustle by trying to sit and talk to me about how dead it was while I was sitting with my own customer...

    Now, would that guy have necessarily bought from me if I had gone over first? Maybe, maybe not. But it seemed probable. You never know how much that custy you "gave up" could be planning to spend, and it will rarely "karma" its way back to you. I can't even imagine working with someone who would just sit there when a customer walked into the dead club and then said, "Oh, yeah, Aurora, I saved him for you so you had a chance to sell to him first." The girls at my club would take the one and only customer away from the stage while he was in the middle of tipping me without batting an eye.

    Bottom line: you're at work, and while some etiquette is appreciated, especially when it's slow, it's not bad manners to go try to sell to a free customer, no matter what the other girl's luck in timing has been like that night.

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    Hell NO!

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    I only do this for girls i like, and thats all of 2, who i see outta work too, dont get me worng, i like majority of who i work with, but only 2 would do the same for me. just this weekend alone i got one of the girls 3 quarters of an hour in VIP on a slow night by advising her to sit with a guy who's mate had already had 30 mins with me. If she hadnt of been working that night, i woulda gone for it myself, i already knew he had cash to spend on him, and he'd blown a healthy load already on another girl.

    The only reason i dont do it for everyone is coz i know the favour wont be returned

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