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    OOOH, I see it now. Yeah, I haven't broadcasted since very early Thursday morning so that explains why I missed it. Lol, I wonder why tech support told me that iModel users just got a pop-up. Funny.

    What I don't understand is:

    Performer Fraud is when a user approaches you to participate in a fraud scheme, typically with stolen credit cards. Users may promise tips and private shows in exchange for "kick-backs" or payment. Be warned that this is criminal activity.

    Performer Fraud also includes anyone who knowingly, accepting tips, private shows, spy shows, etc. with users who intend to refund or "chargeback" his credit card transactions after the fact.

    Any independent performer sending payment to another user by definition is engaged in Performer Fraud
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    Who the hell would agree to give a member a kick-back KNOWING that we are no longer protected by chargebacks? I'm sure it happened a lot before when they still covered us, but now? Has anyone on here ever even had a member make that kind of offer? I certainly have not. The fishiest thing I ever saw was that "LEGITACCOUNTS" guy trying to sell naked accounts with credits on them last week, which I already reported, and he didn't give me any money, anyway.

    I think the only thing I'm worried about with this is if the customer tells us something fishy *after* the fact. I've never had anyone be stupid enough to tell me they're using someone else's card or account, but with the type of members this site attracts I guess you never know? But then in that case I'd block and report them and naked could just review the chat logs to see timeline of everything so I suppose I shouldn't worry.

    I do think it's shitty that models can't send other models tips. Wtf? I don't get how that is "fraud."

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    Did anyone see this today?? I'm think that due to the complaints about chargebacks its created issues with models leaving the site. I was wondering why they weren't just removing the models that were partaking in defrauding contests. Also what suprises me is that even with all of the chargebacks they've passed on to models from the statement credit card fraud has increased.

    Does this mean they've gone back to the way things were? I'm not even sure at this point.


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    NEW POLICY - REGARDING PAYMENT DEDUCTIONS

    Due to recent increases in credit card fraud, we have implemented a new independent performer policy effective immediately. All refunds and chargebacks associated with fraudulent activity will be deucted from your payout pending investigation. In the event that we determine that you are an active participant, such instances will be considered "Performer Fraud" and will also result in termination of your account and as appropriate legal action.
    If we determine that you did not participate in fraudulent activity your impacted payments will be restored. We will make every effort to minimize the effect of chargebacks not involving any wrongdoing on the part of the performer.
    Please read below regarding what constitutes "Performer Fraud."
    WHAT IS PERFORMER FRAUD?

    Performer Fraud is when a user approaches you to participate in a fraud scheme, typically with stolen credit cards. Users may promise tips and private shows in exchange for "kick-backs" or payment. Be warned that this is criminal activity.
    Performer Fraud also includes anyone who knowingly, accepting tips, private shows, spy shows, etc. with users who intend to refund or "chargeback" his credit card transactions after the fact.
    Any independent performer sending payment to another user by definition is engaged in Performer Fraud.
    BE AWARE THAT YOU ARE BEING MONITORED

    Please be aware that all chart logs, private messages (PMs) are now monitored and reviewed prior to every model payout.
    Any confirmed Performer Fraud will result in suspended payment, termination of your performer account and notification to federal and/or international law enforcement.





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    Quote Originally Posted by cherryblossomsinspring View Post
    Did anyone see this today?? I'm think that due to the complaints about chargebacks its created issues with models leaving the site. I was wondering why they weren't just removing the models that were partaking in defrauding contests. Also what suprises me is that even with all of the chargebacks they've passed on to models from the statement credit card fraud has increased.
    Yes, Laurie brought it to our attention. I think you brought up a couple of Really good points; 1. why haven't they removed models who've knowingly been engaging in fraud with members, and 2. why credit card fraud has increased. That second part especially concerns me. I am glad that they are protecting us from CBs we have no knowledge of or control over, and I am glad they are removing girls who are engaging in scams because that hurts the site as a whole, but it does kind of sound like they are losing money.

    Know what would save them money? Not giving away $30,000-$31,000/month in bonuses. If they really want to give the top models and incentive to stay they can go back to just doing weekend contests. I don't know, I could be wrong but I am starting to get the feeling that the site is really hurting it. I know other models and I are definitely seeing less money compared to this time last year, and all these changes within the site make me nervous.

    As far as whether this means they're going back to the way things were, I understood it to mean that if you get a CB one of two things will happen to you- either they will review the chat logs and determine you didn't know about or encourage the CB so you will give you that money back, OR they will find out that you had something to do with the CB so they will kick you off the site and report you to the authorities.

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    I think they should do away with model prizes also. It's just inviting fraud I think. It really makes me feel they are making honest models feel accused and rewarding the scammers until they are found, then banning them when it's already too late and the money is in their pocket.

    Prizes are insulting to models who are there to work. I'm not there to gamble.

    Also there is that scammer guy selling accounts. Why can't they put a stop to him?

    He did show up in my room spamming AGAIN and I took a screen shot, logged out and reported him. They answered me right away and said the account is deactivated, but apparently he just keeps making accounts. Something is seriously wrong there and I hope they get a handle on it soon.

    The lack of communication from Naked bothers me a lot. There has been nothing in my model inbox from them since Thanksgiving.


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    FYI, Ashley is no longer with the company :-( Makes me haz a sad
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    I'm unable to work for SM because I unknowingly signed up to an affiliate or studio or some sort and cannot get out of it until I've stopped broadcasting through them for 6 months. Unfortunately without finding another private-based site to replace them with, I can't stop broadcasting to wait to go to SM.

    My real question for you ladies is: Is naked a decent enough as a private-based site that I could work there to make a few hundred dollars a month to make up for quitting that damn affiliate site?

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    ewwwwwww so theres supposed to be no cbs now?

    but i just got one today :/
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    Quote Originally Posted by h0ttie View Post
    ewwwwwww so theres supposed to be no cbs now?

    but i just got one today :/
    Well from what I understand with a chargeback on Naked you are guilty until proven innocent.

    Unfortunately they still take them out of your pay until they investigate. Supposedly if they find you didn't commit fraud then you get credited back.


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    Quote Originally Posted by laurielegs View Post
    Well from what I understand with a chargeback on Naked you are guilty until proven innocent.

    Unfortunately they still take them out of your pay until they investigate. Supposedly if they find you didn't commit fraud then you get credited back.
    We are under suspicion. And under surveillance. ffs...

    I wonder if we called and asked about a pending cb if they would tell us anything or say it was still "under investigation" and give us a line? How would they handle it, considering the strange manner in which this whole thing played out?
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    Quote Originally Posted by redridinghood View Post
    I'm unable to work for SM because I unknowingly signed up to an affiliate or studio or some sort and cannot get out of it until I've stopped broadcasting through them for 6 months. Unfortunately without finding another private-based site to replace them with, I can't stop broadcasting to wait to go to SM.

    My real question for you ladies is: Is naked a decent enough as a private-based site that I could work there to make a few hundred dollars a month to make up for quitting that damn affiliate site?
    Naked is inconsistent. It's also hard to build up regulars - takes more time than other sites imo. That said, a few hundred dollars a month on the site can be done, it just takes patience.
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    I'm sorry h0ttie. Can you keep us posted with how the whole CB thing plays out for you? I haven't gotten one since before they started this new policy so I am curious as to how long it will take to get them resolved and refunded. I can't imagine it should take too long to "investigate" it.

    As far as working naked as a private-based site, no, I don't think you'll make much unless you already have regulars on the site. I very rarely get new customers anymore, I'd say about 80% for my money comes from regs I've acquired over the 1+ year I've been on there. Also, unless you are going to tip for flashes or do public shows you're probably not going to make much. Up to 40% of my earnings comes from free chat tipping, not privates.

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    Holy shit I got Hit with 7 Chargebacks when I logged in today totaling to $30 bucks seriously who would even attempt to make 1 and 2 dollar chargebacks seems really fishy also 2 of the chargebacks where from the same user I would have thought they would have banned him when he did it the first time. it seems since they put out that new notice it seems I got hit with tons of chargebacks I hadn't gotten one since september when I first joined and all of the sudden boom chargeback galore.

    Really upset since I need to stay here because of the daily pay. I also haven't been making any money at all on here lately. Also how the hell do you get placed at the top of he page I see brand new girl up there all the time hmmmm I am always placed on the 3r row or lower and I have no idea what their algorithm is to come up with placement.

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    ^I'm sorry, Paola. The same thing happened to me earlier this month regarding getting hit with a bunch of CBs all on one day. In my case three of them came from the same guy, and all of them were from tips I had made on December 26th, but the adjustments didn't actually show up until January 4th. That's what makes it seem a little off to me. I dunno, for 3 guys on the same day to have fraudulent charges that weren't caught until a week and a half later doesn't really inspire a lot of confidence in me.

    The only thing I can recommend is for you to keep track of ALL of your chargebacks- the date the transaction occurred, the date the CB showed up in your account, the member name (just in case they aren't really banned), and I've also been keeping track of when I cash out so I know the charge is only deducted from my payout once. I did have one issue of them mistakenly hitting me with the same chargeback a month apart. I called and explained it and they refunded me for the second (double) CB without a problem, but since then I don't trust them to keep records so I keep my own. Sad.

    Oh, and the placement is rigged. I feel like all sites rig placement to a certain extent so I'm not that distraught over it. At least with naked there is only one page of models. Unless you're in the top two rows that guys see before they have to scroll down, I think everyone else is on a more or less even playing field.

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    Sorry Paola to hear you got hit with so many cbs. Courtney, thank you for the advice about keeping track of these. They charged you twice for the same cb? I'm so glad for this forum and the ladies who participate. We need to have eyes on all sides of our heads.
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    I was working this morning and the site went down for over an hour. unacceptable and a waste of my time when I'm trying to work and the site is down. Naked needs to get it together

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    They charged you twice for the same cb? I'm so glad for this forum and the ladies who participate. We need to have eyes on all sides of our heads.
    Yes, it was months ago, though. I had a chargeback from a tip I received on July 3rd. I made a note of the amount and member name, luckily. Then on August 3rd I saw in my adjustments the exact same amount with the same member. I was under the impression that members who commit fraud are banned, plus the fact that it was exactly one month later for the same amount made me suspicious so I called support and told them I think they gave me the same chargeback me twice. I gave them all of the info I had for them to look into it and the adjustment from August completely disappeared within a day or two.

    Again, this really doesn't make me too confident. It hasn't happened to me since so hopefully they've updated whatever system they're using to keep track of fraudulent activity, but just in case I like to make a note of everything.

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    LADIES PLEASE BE SURE TO CHECK YOUR STATS AFTER A PRIVATE! There is currently a glitch that has NOT been fixed yet. Your spy folks will show up but not the person who initiated the private. This has been happening the last two days I guess and still isn't corrected as of now. Take notes while you work! You will need to email [email protected] to fix any discrepancies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KarmaComa View Post
    LADIES PLEASE BE SURE TO CHECK YOUR STATS AFTER A PRIVATE! There is currently a glitch that has NOT been fixed yet. Your spy folks will show up but not the person who initiated the private. This has been happening the last two days I guess and still isn't corrected as of now. Take notes while you work! You will need to email [email protected] to fix any discrepancies.
    Oh lovely. I have been sick for a few days so I haven't cammed on there. When you say "not show up" do you mean that your money won't show up, or the person who took you private's name won't show up when you check your detailed summary report? I'll be taking notes of names and times regardless, but I REALLY don't feel like having to email them after every private in order to get paid for that show!!!!

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    As no name OR no money! You have to rely on your memory and the only "evidence" you will have is if any spy users came in the room. They are able to trace it down and contact them. WRITE EVERYTHING DOWN. No rhyme or reason to the glitch, it is just randomly happening. I haven't heard if it has been fixed yet or not.
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    I just called tech support and they claimed that no one has called or emailed about this issue of privates not showing up so it may be an isolated incident with one model and not a site-wide thing. I haven't worked naked in a week due to being sick so I can't speak from personal knowledge, just repeating what they said. I could keep working on my writing and non-adult gig and no free chat site but I could really use the little extra money naked generates for me. Just don't feel like playing Russian Roulette with my earnings.

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    No one, really??? Omg that make me stabby.
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    well...

    i had that one cb..and now it doesnt show in last pp's cbs but it doesnt show up as added to this pp either...it was only $5 so i cant figure out where it went lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by h0ttie View Post
    well...

    i had that one cb..and now it doesnt show in last pp's cbs but it doesnt show up as added to this pp either...it was only $5 so i cant figure out where it went lol
    ^ This is not good- things just disappearing like that. Naked was my glitch-free site (once upon a time). It was a relief to get away from SM and their ever-present tinkering with every darn thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by h0ttie View Post
    well...

    i had that one cb..and now it doesnt show in last pp's cbs but it doesnt show up as added to this pp either...it was only $5 so i cant figure out where it went lol
    I think that means they investigated it and decided to refund you the CB because they found you weren't participating in fraud. Which is a good thing, that's exactly what they said they would do.

    Does anyone know about this glitch of not getting paid for privates? My computer died (typing this from the library right now, fml) and I won't be able to cam again until next Wednesday when my new one arrives in the mail. I'm missing out on a ton of work between being sick last week and not having a computer for the rest of this week, so I'm just trying to figure out what is going on for when I jump back into camming next week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CourtneyRaine View Post
    I think that means they investigated it and decided to refund you the CB because they found you weren't participating in fraud. Which is a good thing, that's exactly what they said they would do.

    Does anyone know about this glitch of not getting paid for privates? My computer died (typing this from the library right now, fml) and I won't be able to cam again until next Wednesday when my new one arrives in the mail. I'm missing out on a ton of work between being sick last week and not having a computer for the rest of this week, so I'm just trying to figure out what is going on for when I jump back into camming next week.
    Hi Courtney, I have not experienced this glitch so far. I usually take 1-2 screenshots each session, but I am taking more lately as a precaution. My time on naked has been quite pleasant, actually. Sorry to hear about your computer. That happened to me two years ago, and it was horrible.

    A belated thank you to Karma for letting us know about the glitch.
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