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    Interesting especially considering the fact that the city decriminalized the crime. http://www.nerve.com/news/politics/n...d-prostitution
    And they sure aren't locking people up for pot anymore.

    "We find time and time again that women and men who actively participate in prostitution tend to commit other crimes," claimed Serpas. "Such as some form of battery, simple robbery, armed robbery, illegal drug deals, or carrying concealed weapons. In some cases, customers of prostitutes find that their wallets have been lifted, which means bank card theft and sometimes stolen identity cases. This is why it’s an incredibly worthwhile effort to target people involved in the prostitution business."

    Um yeah. A. Bullshit. and B. if that's at all true, it's pretty fucking hard to get a job with a prostitution charge. I can not overstate how much I hate N.O.P.D.

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    From what I saw on Bourbon all weekend, the hookers and pimps are doing just fine.
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    They still can lock you up for pot, but most of them opt for a ticket. They are just no longer required to arrest someone for weed.

    I wonder if this will affect the clubs. I havent been in nola since july, but it would suck if undercovers started heckling strippers for petty bullshit.

    Also it looks like girls convicted are being force to register as sex offenders. In louisiana, being a sex offender shows up on your drivers license.

    Also not a fan of nopd.
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    "Calling prostitution "a dangerous, violent crime," NOPD Police Chief Ronal Serpas announced today that New Orleans police had arrested 67 sex workers in the months of July and August in an undercover operation that also involved State Police, the FBI and the Secret Service."

    And how exactly is having sex for money a violent crime?

    Stupidity like this angers me because it is at the expense of the taxpayer! People need to start looking at the bigger picture. It really has nothing to do with whether you condone sex work or not.
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    Honestly, I'm glad this is happening. One of my hooker friends* says the girls they're busting are the ones turning tricks in the strip clubs. Mine was a veritable brothel, and it was one of the nicer clubs. It's about time they clean up Bourbon Street clubs so the clean dancers can get back to making money.

    Although, frankly if Serpas is going to target something, I wish he'd work on our murder rate, which is 10 times the national average. http://www.wwltv.com/news/FBI-Report...130161983.html

    Seems a little more important than busting hookers.


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    ^That may be good news for dancers, but when they make a big enough dent in the clubs therefore cleaning them up, they won't just pack up and disappear. They'll go right back to busting hookers. The article pointed out johns getting ripped off, but funny how they don't mention the crimes some johns commit like rape or sexual assault. So they focus on concealed weapons, but don't stop to think in most cases they are used for protection.



    Quote Originally Posted by Kalypso View Post
    "Calling prostitution "a dangerous, violent crime," NOPD Police Chief Ronal Serpas announced today that New Orleans police had arrested 67 sex workers in the months of July and August in an undercover operation that also involved State Police, the FBI and the Secret Service."

    And how exactly is having sex for money a violent crime?

    Stupidity like this angers me because it is at the expense of the taxpayer! People need to start looking at the bigger picture. It really has nothing to do with whether you condone sex work or not.
    Blame the religious choke hold on this country. Many believe legalizing prostitution will bring some kind of societal destruction. The same housewives/girlfriends that would swear up and down their SOs wouldn't do something like that- are the same ones scared deep down that he'll be at the brothel, and unless caught by themselves, ain't a damn thing gonna happen to the guy.
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    Default Re: NOPD war on prostitutes

    Fortunately, it looks like they arrested pimps and johns too, so that's good:

    "Cannizzaro said the 67 arrests involved women, pimps and customers."

    http://www.nola.com/crime/index.ssf/...nch_quart.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Winged Dinghy View Post
    Honestly, I'm glad this is happening. One of my hooker friends* says the girls they're busting are the ones turning tricks in the strip clubs. Mine was a veritable brothel, and it was one of the nicer clubs. It's about time they clean up Bourbon Street clubs so the clean dancers can get back to making money.
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    unfortunantly in most cities when they are ticketing and taking dancers to jail they do not care if the dancer is a clean a dancer for not. Making the legal consequences the same for the clean dancer and the dancer selling extras. if I am correct if u are not dancing on a platform in new orleans you are breaking the law. But how many dancers actually use the platforms to dance on in the VIP rooms or lap dance rooms?
    sure it is nice when a club is cleaned up. But in most cities the clubs being cleaned up results in clean dancers getting ticketed. What the city really needs to do is ticket the club not the dancers. that way management would get off their ass about this issue. but in my 8 years in the industry i have never seen this happen.
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    I'm guessing 90% of strippers active in New Orleans (myself included) have never thought to use those little tables as anything other than a place to set drinks.

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    Anyone noticed the similarity between the words HAd aRRESTED

    AND

    HARRASSED.

    JUST a letter off...

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    Sex between 2 consenting adults is just that, whether or not money is exchanged. Prostitution needs to be legalized. It's an archaic law based on religion, get rid of it.
    Legalize it, regulate it, tax it. Put the pimps out of business. Test the women regularly. Require safe sex. Don't clog up the already broken justice system with this shit.

    Then please get it the fuck out of my club.
    Me? I just want to be a stripper and should have the right to do that inside a strip club on Bourbon St and not concern myself with what anyone else is doing.
    An adult woman wants to be a prostitute? Cool, no judgment here. She should be able to do it on her terms, have the same rights as any other woman, and not have to answer to her pimp.
    A prostitute gets raped or otherwise assaulted? If legalized, she can now file charges. The violent john goes to jail, gets a record and is hopefully prevented from repeating this behavior. Keeping prostitution a crime only gives sex offenders an outlet with little fear of recrimination and keeps vermin like pimps in business.

    As far as this article about the NOPD sting, I call bullshit and I call it loudly. (though only online 'cause I fear NOPD like every other resident here) I read about it in the local paper and overheard local cops discussing it. I see NO other evidence of it. Methinks Serpas is full of shit. Since this article was published in our paper, the amount of pimps and hos on Bourbon St has doubled, if not tripled. It's the thickest I've seen since 2002. I've picked up a few supplemental bartending shifts on Bourbon in a bar where I have a clear view of the street. Every single weekend night after about 11pm, the crowd is consistently 30% pimps and hos. After 3pm, it's about 80% and it's a very aggressive group. When I walk 2 blocks down Bourbon to get a cab after my shift ends @5, that's almost all I see. No fear of the cops whatsoever.

    Now, although I am pro-legalization in this matter, I am also pro-me and my local economy. I support myself by working on Bourbon St. Bourbon St is almost a totally tourist based economy. Imagine a bunch of first-time-in-New-Orleans, starry-eyed conventioneers from Nebraska having a grand 'ole time. They're having their shirtsleeves grabbed on and catcalled to by prostitutes and getting the stinkeye from the pimps, some of which make no effort to hide their pieces in their waistbands. Maybe these conventioneers see a good old fashioned ho fight between 2 women in spandex dresses and *nothing* else, each weighing about 300 lbs each. (true example!) Maybe they get pickpocketed for good measure.
    A) How do you think these guys are going to treat the strippers inside the clubs and what are they going to expect for their money? Conventioneers are our bread and butter.
    B) Do you think they're going to return to my city after getting hustled by half a dozen prostitutes per block? Cause that just leaves a shitass impression of an amazing city.
    C) Do you think they're going to tell everyone in Nebraska what their impression of New Orleans was?
    So, even if they're not inside my club (but unfortunately they're there too) it's still my problem. Call me selfish........

    My solution? Bring back Storyville! Build a few gorgeous, classy, well-advertised brothels. Make 'em look like mansions, like they used to and hell, throw in a fabulous jazz band while you're at it and pay the fuck out of them. Serve good drinks and I might even show up to hear the band and high-five the madam. Give the adult, consenting women who choose to be prostitutes a clean, beautiful, safe place to work. Give the men who are looking for prostitutes a safe and fun place to go. Let the men who only want strippers come to the strip clubs.
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    ^^^While i don't disagree with your position, indoor prostitution was legal in RI until a couple of years ago. That meant that anything could happen in a club, AMP, hotel room, regular bar, as long as it wasn't being offered on a streetcorner. All the clubs became much less strip clubs and much more brothels because prostitution was not a prosecutable thing.

    Two things to realize:

    1. The club owners are going to allow anything and everything they can get away with allowing. If its legal outside the club, its sure as hell permissible inside the club.

    2, Men in general are going to go where they get the most for their money. The reason not all but a lot of guys go to a strip club is because that's where they can get get the most for their money without risking a LE run-in. If a customer can legally get an extra somewhere other than a club, a lot of them won't even go to the club. I think its pretty safe to assume that any guy asking for extras wouldn't bother visiting the club if he could find them elsewhere. I also think it unlikely those guys leaving the club are going to be quickly replaced by guys with a lot of cash and lesser desires.

    Here's an analogy for you. What happened to adult theaters when you no longer had to go there to see porn? That's right, they closed down. Clubs risk the same future if guys can legally get what they're looking for right around the corner.

    I have no problem supporting the legalization of prostitution but I honestly think it might represent the first nail in the coffin of the SC industry as it presently operates.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kermit210 View Post
    Legalize it, regulate it, tax it. Put the pimps out of business. Test the women regularly. Require safe sex. Don't clog up the already broken justice system with this shit.
    This won't work. While I'm in favor of decriminalizing prostitution I don't see how any plan that involved the government trying to control it would work. It doesn't even work in Nevada. While there are legal brothels the vast majority of women who work as prostitutes still choose to do it illegally rather than in the legal brothels. Why? Simple, the price for working legally (both money and control) is more than what most women are willing to pay. If prostitution were legal and regulated most women would still choose to work "under the radar".

    Prostitution in the clubs is not an issue that would be solved by legalization. Guys that go to clubs looking for sex are generally not the same guys who will hire an escort. It's not about legality as much as it is about familiarity. All you need to do is read the blue boards here or other male dominated SC sites to realize that the guys who solicit ITC or OTC from strippers are doing it because they like the idea of getting sex from someone they "know".

    Prostitution in the clubs will end when management stops tolerating it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Athenathefabulous View Post

    Also it looks like girls convicted are being force to register as sex offenders. In louisiana, being a sex offender shows up on your drivers license.
    This only happens if the girl is charged with a felony.

    In Nola, we have a "crimes against nature" law. If a girl offers oral or anal sex, she can be charged with it and will have to register as a sex offender.

    The worst part is that the Johns almost never get charged with this crime, although they could be if they request or agree to anal/oral sex. Just the women. Of course, their lives are ruined by it along with any chance of them getting away from prostitution.

    These people: http://wwav-no.org/programs/no-justice/scan are trying to stop this. There's a ton of info about it on their site.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chris91 View Post
    In Nola, we have a "crimes against nature" law. If a girl offers oral or anal sex, she can be charged with it and will have to register as a sex offender.
    I believe that a bill was signed into law just this past June that removed the sex offender registration requirement for new CANS convictions. However, the change in the law was not retroactive, so women previously convicted still have to register as sex offenders right now.

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    I'm not dancing right now so I'm curious. Have the cops been in the clubs harassing dancers?

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    yes, women convicted of prostitution no longer have to register as sex offenders. It's not retroactive but there is a group who is trying to make it retroactive.

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    Go to a Las Vegas casino bar late at night. Say yes to that nice friendly prostitute who approaches you. Do this a few times. Then come back here and tell me prostitution isn't a crime that often involves robbery.

    That's to say nothing of the violent crimes the women themselves fall victim to.


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    Street gals and those advertising in the back of alternate papers are definitely to be avoided, often for the same reasons the NOPD spokesman said. But the high class gals usually are OK that way.
    If NO wants to market something to bring in plenty of cash, they would open up a legal Storyville and tax and regulate it and crack down on other forms. But the regulation would have to be done by someone other than the NOPD. Maybe that's a reason not to open it up. But it's a good fantasy....
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    Customers are not entitled to grope, disrespect, or rob strippers. This is their job, not their hobby, and they all need income. Clubs are not just some erotic show for guys to view while drinking.

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