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    Hello
    I just wanted to share something that may be helpful. When a customer turns you down, no matter what excuse they used (we've heard them all)....always ALWAYS excuse yourself from the table with a smile/let them know its fine "sweety/their name/whatever" and that you will return later to try them again.

    I can't stress this enough. As much as you are annoyed by their excuse whatever it may be....if you walk away pissed off or use some smart-ass remark...then you absolutely RUIN your chances for a possible dance from them later on in the evening/when they have drank more/are ready for dances etc. Also it reflects poorly on you because other customers will see your attitude & it might ruin your chances for a dance from them as well.

    I find I am very successful at getting the 'maybe laters' to spend $$ so I just thought I would share that lil piece of advice .

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    It's true that sometimes a "not right now" really is a "not right now" and "maybe later" really does mean "maybe later".
    I think that on the whole, dancers could stand to be a bit more polite in accepting rejection since a bad attitude from one girl often makes us all "bitches" and can ruin a guy's mood and cause him to opt NOT to spend that $300 (or whatever) he was going to spend for the night on some lucky girl.
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    Very true. It's a bad day and rare when I get super bitchy to guys who say no. Yes we are in a competetive business, but as a whole it reflects on the club and any future spending. If a guy has a positive experience, he will come back and may bring in more people to spend as well. If he has a negative experience well there goes any future hope of more cash coming in. Think long term spending potential not just short term. And just because a customer won't spend on you doesn't mean he won't spend on others. If that's the case, it wouldn't hurt to just kindly ignore him and let someone else get the money.
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    Girls don't do this already?




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    ^ That's what I was thinking. I can't imagine EVER walking away looking pissed or showing my disappointment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CherryPepper View Post
    ^ That's what I was thinking. I can't imagine EVER walking away looking pissed or showing my disappointment.
    Me either ... Your loss, buddy!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Addison View Post
    Me either ... Your loss, buddy!
    Yeah.... exactly! When a guy tells me no or maybe later, or whatever, I smile and walk off, and laugh to myself because I know he will be regretting that move later!
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    LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    You can say that again.. not just on here but men in general. Guys are so damn lame, the only way they can halfway make up for it is by opening their wallets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stripper Hacks View Post
    Girls don't do this already?
    Not always. You've never witnessed a girl who can't deal with rejection getting all "Well why the hell not?! If you don't want dances, you need to leave!! Why don't you get the fuck out if you're broke, you fucking loser!?"
    To, like, some nice guy who always comes in and spends money?

    It's really embarassing. Gives men such a shitty view of dancers.
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    i am losing my fucking mind and i really just want this chloroform dream because i think that would just get me right with jesus.

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    [quote=$$$YvonnE$$$;2203669]Hello
    ALWAYS excuse yourself from the table with a smile/let them know its fine "sweety/their name/whatever" and that you will return later to try them again.

    I also ALWAYS do this-you never know which potential customer could be watching the exchange & a lot of "maybe later" ppl do end up getting dances.

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    I've always done this, even with guys who were legitimately super shitty with me just to be pricks. If anything, I just want to see the dumbfounded look on their face when they realize that I'm not going to be affected by their jackassery. On a tipwalk one night, I asked a guy if he was tipping the ladies - he looked at me with a stupid, cocky little smirk and was like "Some of them" in a really shitty 'but not you, you ugly bitch' tone. I simply smiled at him, and said "Ok" and walked away. I caught the look on his face as I was leaving and he just looked shocked and kinda disappointed that he didn't get to piss off a "stupid stripper" and make himself feel superior by putting me down.

    I have seen girls super bitchy with guys who didn't want dances, and it never works well for them. There's one girl at my old club who never made much, and it's because she pretty much branded herself a bitch. If you piss off every customer that turns you down, how can you expect to sell to them in the future? And our club was not big enough that there were enough new customers every night for her to still bank on guys who didn't think she was a bitch... plus, everyone would watch and listen to her and not want to give her the time of day either...

    The guys who are polite about rejection don't deserve the bitchiness, and guys who are dicks don't deserve to see you lose your cool and know they got to you. Don't scare away good customers and don't give bad customers the satisfaction of knowing they messed with your night, because that's their goal.

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    If it was a polite no or a "maybe later" I would say ok and walk away. If he was rude and made it known I had no chance in hell I would probably tell him off and walk away. Maybe I am alone but if he was rude, I'm not going to be polite because he "might" spend on someone else. First off, many of these men don't spend as well. Second, I really didn't care if most dancers made money or not unless I liked them. By rude, I'm thinking hurtful comments like I was ugly, fat, etc. Not even comments like I'm not his type, because those I I don't consider hurtful really, unless he makes it known my type is one he finds repulsive.

    I did work with dancers who were rude to guys who gave polite thanks but no thanks. That was pretty stupid because they may have spent money later on with her or told others about her.

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    ^ yea i agree. also, in the case of a guy not just making a rude remark but physically DOING something rude, like groping in a forbidden area (e.g., crotch), i think the customer should DEFINITLY be told off. ive seen instances where some cheap bastard will reject a girl and/or not tip her when she's dong her tip rounds, yet he'll grab at her inappropriately as she walks away. if anything, telling off a customer for inappropriate touching sends the message loud n clear to other customers that you will NOT tolerate that shit...some customers might actually applaud you standing up to the bastard, and this might help u make a sale. ive had that happen before...one time i was cocktailing and a guy was not only being sleazy (asking for xtras) but he kept trying to squeeze me close to him, totally inappropriate...i wouldnt let him have any parts of that, then the next customer i approached thanked me for being the first girl to have the balls to actually stand up to him and his dirty behavior lol.

    so theres always exceptions to this rule

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    Quote Originally Posted by kthnx View Post
    ^ yea i agree. also, in the case of a guy not just making a rude remark but physically DOING something rude, like groping in a forbidden area (e.g., crotch), i think the customer should DEFINITLY be told off. ive seen instances where some cheap bastard will reject a girl and/or not tip her when she's dong her tip rounds, yet he'll grab at her inappropriately as she walks away. if anything, telling off a customer for inappropriate touching sends the message loud n clear to other customers that you will NOT tolerate that shit...some customers might actually applaud you standing up to the bastard, and this might help u make a sale. ive had that happen before...one time i was cocktailing and a guy was not only being sleazy (asking for xtras) but he kept trying to squeeze me close to him, totally inappropriate...i wouldnt let him have any parts of that, then the next customer i approached thanked me for being the first girl to have the balls to actually stand up to him and his dirty behavior lol.

    so theres always exceptions to this rule
    I always told off men who grabbed me inappropriately. Those guys are slime and the chances of them spending money is slim unless they expect sex.

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    Thanks for your input guys.
    I can definitely understand telling off a customer who gropped you inappropriately!! As for those customers who are down-right rude....it just makes you look like the bigger person (and him look stupid) if you just smile and walk away (imo)

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    ^ most times. Even then tho if a guy is REALLY rude it can still help to tell him off, make sure it's witty and sharp tongued. Often other guys will laugh along with u and/or laugh at the jerk when u do this, or applaud u for standing up to him. Some guys purposely act rude to see if u'll lie there and take it. I think this occurs more in some "rude cities" like phila and nyc than others tho, depends. In cities like those, people are way more brash, blunt, and rude (assholes that are proud to be) than say in the Minnesota nice Midwest or west coast, where acting kind and laid back tends to be favored more.

    U gotta gage each guy individually and assess the situation.

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    Im a bitch at work and I do well. If a customer is polite and rejects me because he is not ready or im not his type and he does it politely, fine, i will also be civil and walk away politely and focus on making money elsewhere.

    however, if he 'just came in here for a beer (i.e. beer and free tits without giving a dime to any girls) or he 'doesnt believe in paying what he can get for free' or 'he wont pay to be teased' or says something else rude, well..... he said it to the wrong stripper. i feel no obligation to be nice to the drunk assholes who come into my job. if they want to come in and be obnoxious and see tits for free, then the assumption that we should treat eachother with mutual respect has already been broken. I dont know what the fuck they expect, we are sentient beings.

    so yea, im definitely not the nicest stripper at work. nor do i care to be.
    The best thing i have heard in a strip club to date:
    customer: we should get married right now! we should get a shotgun marriage!
    me: uhh... i think you are misunderstanding what a shotgun marriage means. A shotgun marriage means you knock me up and my daddy shows up at your door with a gun and forces you to marry me and raise the baby. You mean elope.
    customer: hmm... nah actually i will take the shotgun marriage. At least then we would be having sex.


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    We had a porn star last night, Teagan Presley, and she was selling DVDs during her stage. Some guy came up, held out his $20, and she goes to give him the DVD holding it between her legs for him to grab. BTW, this is her 4th song she's been on stage. He tells her she "needs to work for her $20".

    What a dick! She worked to make that movie, spends 3 songs stripping and dancing, and then even offers him the DVD in a sexy-ish manner. So she calls him out, and he keeps being a complete asshole to her like that, then laughs when her stage is done. He was basically ostracized the rest of the night by the dancers.

    But really, that happens on a regular basis at that club.

    He desereved to be told off, and he was.

    There are exceptions to every rule pretty much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Athenathefabulous View Post
    Im a bitch at work and I do well. If a customer is polite and rejects me because he is not ready or im not his type and he does it politely, fine, i will also be civil and walk away politely and focus on making money elsewhere..
    I agree

    [quote=Athenathefabulous;2206371]however, if he 'just came in here for a beer (i.e. beer and free tits without giving a dime to any girls) or he 'doesnt believe in paying what he can get for free' or 'he wont pay to be teased' or says something else rude, well..... he said it to the wrong stripper. i feel no obligation to be nice to the drunk assholes who come into my job. if they want to come in and be obnoxious and see tits for free, then the assumption that we should treat eachother with mutual respect has already been broken. I dont know what the fuck they expect, we are sentient beings.
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    Um Athena is right. Most of these guys are assholes anyway why be nice to them? I meaning ones who are nice or shy I ll be nicer too , but if ur a drunk douchebag no I'm not going to be nice. Why so he could buy a dance later, he won't lol. And I see to many girls being nice and drinking with cheap men who don't buy dances. All you're doing is giving them a reason to keep coming back and waste space.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jasmine22 View Post
    Um Athena is right. Most of these guys are assholes anyway why be nice to them?....All you're doing is giving them a reason to keep coming back and waste space.
    A lot of those guys who are rude about turning girls down for dances do it because they enjoy pissing girls off/getting a reaction. So getting pissed/being bitchy/being rude IS giving them a reason to keep coming back and waste space and continue to LOL at the pissy strippers.
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    This is so true. My last club had a LOT of amazingly bitchy, rude dancers...these girls would do the literal "wanna dance" approach, and if the customer didn't immediately say yes, they'd flip him off or cuss him out and stalk off. I did NOT do that. I'd smile, tell him that if he changed his mind to let me know, and walk off. And frequently--like at least once a shift--I'd later approach the guy again, or he'd wave me over, and tell me that I was so much more polite and gracious than any of the other girls in the club, and he wanted to do some dances. I got some of my best customers from these guys, and they almost always tipped quite well.

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    If they say no , Just say well Am i list hot enough for a little tip...I usually get between 5-20 dollars..!!! It adds up, just be cute and sexy and dont sound offended, as long as im walking away with a little money, I dont see it as a complete waste of time..

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    I agree completely!

    The dancers who are rude over a rejection are making the club look bad and unclassy. I suppose it would depend on the way it is said, some people are just untactful with saying "no".

    If he is trying to be an arse, I get off on being strong and positive and not letting his negativity get through my skin. Its the biggest feeling of empowerement to be the bigger person, as someone else mentioned earlier. Besides, even the biggest jerks might end up spending money on someone else in the club. If you anger them by being rude back, it might affect someone else's money earning potential. Just because you may not be able to make money from that person does not mean someone else will not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by natyempress View Post
    If they say no , Just say well Am i list hot enough for a little tip...I usually get between 5-20 dollars..!!! It adds up, just be cute and sexy and dont sound offended, as long as im walking away with a little money, I dont see it as a complete waste of time..

    i'm gonna try this next time... would just be afraid of them saying no... then what? :/ its even more awkward and i feel worse than if they had just said no to the dance then i walked away lol

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    ^^^ When I have been trying it lately (if I remember), its been working for me, and I work in Australia where tipping isn't cultural
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