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    Quote Originally Posted by Incantatious View Post
    Miss_Venture, you already rubbed a lot of us up the wrong way when you took pity on us for being working cam girls, but continuing to rant on this thread in the same way, when a mod here has already stated that it should stay about us working ladies on cam4 and general discussion about it.. you're not giving yourself a good track record, and you actually risk repeating your history by getting into trouble by just ignoring mods wishes.

    Would it not at least be better to open up a new thread about your issue? Rather than bringing it here?

    You'll be doing yourself a HUGE favor if you keep it short, sweet, and concise.
    Use paragraphs and and just don't try to stir things up by hinting at anyone being "pro-cam4" or "biased towards abusive guys" or crap like that.





    I don't...

    That's exactly why cam4 is not my main site.

    Just earlier, on my highest-paying site, I had ONE guy piss me off... He demanded to see my titties. I told him to tip for requests, right as someone else tipped me. He said "Oh look someone else tipped, so now show me your tits". I told that freeloader that I would never show him my titties even if he actually paid me, and promptly banned the fucker.

    Actually I wanted to chime in again and yes I'm the same. When I put in over 100 hours into cam4 wanting to make it my main site the members really don't see cam models in the most positive of lights. So unfortunately I had to move on. The hourly cam4 provided was a great incentive to trying out a new site. I was on days for 12 hours trying to figure out what was the best time where spending members would show up. I received everything from " I'm to find models that hate what they do so they can move in with me until they get deported back to their country " to " I'm here to have sex with models in real life but I would never tip them, to of course the " token whore comments" from members that only want to watch and interract for free.

    Miss_Venture if you look back in this thread you'll see my very honest comments on my experiences on the site. Cam4 is changing things and many of the members that aren't there to spend on cam shows are a bit upset. I'm used to sites where I don't have to lie to the member and pretend I'm not there to get paid. Other sites the members are fully aware that they are spending money on a service and without that money they will not have that service just like any industry.

    With all of that said the bonus was great no other site even offers it also I like the fact that they take the percentage out of what the customer buys in credits rather than taking the percertage from the models. It allows the customer to see that what he tips is exactly what the model takes in. On other sites members forget that even if he's tipping $100, a model may walk away with $50 , $30 or even less from that amount. So again as with all sites there are pros and cons. I may give cam4 another try but I can only do so if I'm split camming on other sites simultaneously.

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    cherryblossomsinspring thank you for your helpful comments. When I have time I will add constructive comments directly relating to the thread but at the moment I am promoting the gay pride weekend in Leeds so very busy. Just having a coffee and looked at the cam4 promo stand. Was very interesting to see what they have have been saying.

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    Kim if you want that cam4 name of that fake admin @cam4greece I just tricked him into giving it to me.
    Maybe this time a someone may listen. I hope this post is within the spirit of the thread as it maybe helps other cam4 girls to stay away from him on cam4.
    [20:49:48] *ME: Hi sorry been busy again lol
    [20:50:14] *ME: Whats your cam4 name ill come say hello
    [20:50:26] **NAME EDITED : biglikebong
    [20:50:31] **NAME EDITED : im cam4greece
    [20:50:38] **NAME EDITED: are you gonna have show?
    [20:51:27] **ME: yes I need to go eat frist then Ill have a show if i get time
    [20:52:38] **NAME EDITED: sent me here when you will broadcast
    [20:53:12] **ME: sure

    He has more chance of me being on the moon today then having a show with me
    Mods if this post is not in the spirit of the thread then I am happy to delete it.

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    Kim if you remember that girl who is a good friend of mine and I emailed you about her being threatened on cam4 and you just said she needs to email you as you will not discuss others accounts? Discussing others accounts with another I fully understand and agree with but I feel someone from cam4 should have emailed her to make sure she is ok as I gave you her name and info. Please understand some girls are to scared to email a person they don't know as this guy said he knows all the cam4 admins and if she emails them she will be banned. She trusts and has faith in me as she is a good friend so I emailed you instead. Well she had her twitter, and cam4 account hacked by him and now has to make a new one. He put a pic of himself, without face on her twitter profile and hacked her cam4 account so she had to delete it. I respectfully request cam4 give me a contact email of someone else who can deal with this matter as, with the greatest respect, you did nothing. I will pass the contact email onto her. I am so pissed over this as she is a really good friend who I spent weeks helping her get to the top of cam4 and she is so upset.

    Mods I hope this post remains as it is in the spirit of the thread as it concerns asking for help for someone from cam4. Support for a cam4 model requested.

    [04/08/2013 08:15:09] ME: Good morning NAME EDIT
    [04/08/2013 08:22:06] ME: why have u got a male photo on your twitter profile lol
    [04/08/2013 08:22:33] ME: Guess that guy blocked me again lol
    [04/08/2013 23:21:06] NAME EDIT: hi
    [04/08/2013 23:21:15] NAME EDIT: yes
    [04/08/2013 23:21:31] NAME EDIT: he hacked me all acounts, my twitter, my mails, my cam4 account
    [04/08/2013 23:21:46] NAME EDIT: i had to delete my account on cam4
    [04/08/2013 23:21:55] NAME EDIT: now i need to made another one
    [08:27:12] ME : Hi NAME EDIT msg me when your back ok..... I am so sorry he did this and I feel I have let you down but I tried to do something about it but we need to get him gone.
    Last edited by Miss_Venture; 08-05-2013 at 01:16 AM. Reason: typo

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    Why you all girls here complain so much for this, i think you should all be thankful to the people that provide you with a way to earn money just from stay at home and do nothing. i really don't get it I am 33 years old mom and i know you all think about money. money isn't everything. so stop complain that much and just do what you do,no company is bad or good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jessymisspretty View Post
    Why you all girls here complain so much for this, i think you should all be thankful to the people that provide you with a way to earn money just from stay at home and do nothing. i really don't get it I am 33 years old mom and i know you all think about money. money isn't everything. so stop complain that much and just do what you do,no company is bad or good.

    Hi Jessy and welcome to your view. I hope you won't mind me saying but that's rather insulting calling us "stay at home and do nothing" I work a full time job as well as promote festivals and work in a hospice during my spare time. I, and I am sure many other girls here, are not stay at home and do nothing girls. These companies you talk about make a great deal of money from web cam models and alot of girls make very little but try so hard to earn a living. Without models there would not be web cam sites so its so like any profession be it web cam models, or any other type of models there is a support network for them to vent their views good or bad. Personally I am happy you vented yours that's democracy working. I hope others agree all have a right to share their views on forums like this. Some may agree with views posted some may not but that's the freedom anyone has to express their views. Peace to you Jessy and hope you stay around.

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    Hi Miss_venture i didn't mean to offend anyone, really i am just say that you should keep something for your own if you want, i have talked with a lady that she own a modeling agency, escorts agency and adult websites network in europe and she say to me that performers always are complaining about something, that they are not good at. so they just make the company look bad. Not anyone is good at this šjobš

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    I am planning to open a modeling agency of my own sometime, so if will hire models and they are not good for the job,i will fire them, and then go out on the world talking shit about my agency, I am definitely not agree with that, put yourself in my place, would you like that for your agency that you invested money and hours to create a business?! i would like to hear your answers about this

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    Hi Jessy, again, Thank you for your reply. I worked as a fashion model for a big London agency for many years as well as web cam sites. It is the nature of most workers in any company to try and advise the company on better working practices for the workers and the company. Without feed back web site companies can not improve things for models and themselves. Most web cam site welcome feed back and "complaints" as without them they can not change things for the better for all concerned. If all web cam models just put up with stuff then they will just leave a bad web cam site and the web cam site will fail. That can not be a good thing right? More web cam sites = more choice for web cam models and those web cam sites that do not listen to models "complaints" will close. Jessy please stay around and post as its good to hear so many views on being a cam model. Without change girls would still be pulled around by their hair by stone age man

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    Quote Originally Posted by jessymisspretty View Post
    Hi Miss_venture i didn't mean to offend anyone, really i am just say that you should keep something for your own if you want, i have talked with a lady that she own a modeling agency, escorts agency and adult websites network in europe and she say to me that performers always are complaining about something, that they are not good at. so they just make the company look bad. Not anyone is good at this šjobš
    Serious question: What would you actually know?

    Your first post here says you're here to learn about webcamming, not fart out orders to those you're hoping to get advice from to get help for this "easy way to make money"!




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    Good point, so what you say about those fat guys who own these companies and when someone new come up and want to shine,they just go and fuck him up. greedy assholes

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    I will come back soon, and i will keep you posted with news.take care

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    i just dont like when people abuse, nothing more

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    Jessy with the greatest respect to you I told you I worked for a top London agency for many years. A good agency would not even spend money on a model unless they knew she was right for the job. If I took on a new model I would make sure she was right for the job before I hired her and paid my money promoting her. No I would not fire her if she did not make it I would offer her so much time and help to make sure she did make money as it was me that hired her in the first place. Jessy my advice to you is don't hire anyone unless you are pretty sure they and you will make money. I got turned down by 2 agencies before one a agency took me on and I totally respected their opinion about me. I was not the type of model they where looking for as they wanted more Gothic type models and I am not a Goth.
    Thank you again for your post hope my reply helped you. Peace

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    Quote Originally Posted by jessymisspretty View Post
    Why you all girls here complain so much for this, i think you should all be thankful to the people that provide you with a way to earn money just from stay at home and do nothing. i really don't get it I am 33 years old mom and i know you all think about money. money isn't everything. so stop complain that much and just do what you do,no company is bad or good.
    Wow did I just read this??

    First the mumbai escorts pimp and now this character? Where are these people coming from?

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    Good morning ladies -

    I hope to hear later today about the bonus' you are all waiting on. I will update as soon as possible.

    A general note on how we deal with the issue mentioned above.

    We do not discuss a models account on Cam4 with anyone but the model, it is a matter of privacy and also a matter of security. Typcially an account is not hacked but in fact the model has done one of two things:

    1. Taken their show to skype and then accepted a file being sent which is usually an exe file or is infected and allows a keylogger to be installed.

    2. The model clicks a link, enters their login information and the person now has access to their account.

    The unfortunate part is that the people generally use the same password for everything so if you have a twitter account, email, blog, etc this person now has access to all those areas. On more than one ocassion the person that has gotten into the account has actually emailed us from the model's email account.

    If as a model you believe this is the case then you should contact either myself or [email protected]. Since the above would indicate someone else has accessed the account we're very careful in matching up information so as not to place a models funds in jeopardy - typcially the account will be closed till we're satisfied we're dealing with the model and that their machine is safe.

    Have a wonderful week! I'll be back later with an update.

    Kim

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    I was just informed that if you check your earnings you should see that your bonuses have been posted. I do sincerely apologize for the delay and appreciate everyone's patience.

    Thanks!
    Kim

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    Kim while I accept some of what you say I would also like to add to it. There is a well know exploit in skype where non of what you stated needs to happen. Some guys, like this freak know this. I am not prepared to show or even talk about it here. But if a mod wants to msg me to inform others or if even cam4 tech want to email me I am happy to tell them. They do not need to download a file or click on any link to obtain an ip. I am most certainly not saying cam4 is in any way responsible for this. I do how ever wish cam4 would investigate and check ips to members when they are informed that the person doing this activity is a member of cam4. I have advised my friend not to do skype shows any more as she will never know if this guy is using another name or not so she is open to this being repeated again. If you check the login ip of the person I informed you about that did this to this person then u will see the login on her account is not from her country and belongs to the person informed about. She has already emailed [email protected] but all they said is create a new account. The person doing this uses the hotspot shield proxy most of the time but does slip up alot and uses his own ips from Italy. Thank you for your time a full email will be sent from the person in question soon. This person does not type well or speak well in English so its hard for her to communicate fully.

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    Seriously? Are you an idiot? Cam sites are for CAM SHOWS, not for freeloading assholes to beg all day. So yeah people bitch when idiots come on a cam site knowing full well it's not free nudity and act like a tool.

    I don't think I saw anyone saw anything about the owners or call them fat. Clearly the sites are in it to make money just like the cam performers are. Unless you actually DO cam shows, don't throw in your two cents.


    Quote Originally Posted by jessymisspretty View Post
    Good point, so what you say about those fat guys who own these companies and when someone new come up and want to shine,they just go and fuck him up. greedy assholes

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    You mean like most people hate their jobs period? No one has to work on a cam site, I dont see a gun to their head. You can quit at anytime and find another job. Abusive people exist in all walks of life, not just in the adult industry. I REALLY can't stand most of what you posted, it's total bullshit and rude. Don't cam, pretty simple. However you have ZERO right to talk shit about those of us that do cam.


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    Good morning. I deleted my post and will post it on my web site instead as I take note of your comments Incan. I take pity on no one here I am merely stating many girls have told me they hate being on web cam and only do it for the money and if they had money they would not do it. I am quoting them direct not anyone here. If girls or guys here love being on cam and use it as a job good luck to them all but it is not the same for all girls and guys. Some girls go on web cam to make some money for their drug habits, some are forced to do it by abusive boyfriends, some do it to pay hospital bills but hate doing it. Those are the girls I feel sorry for as they hate doing it but have to. If you girls here make money and play the guys for tokens and have a good time good luck to you keep on doing it but for many girls they hate it. Each to their own.

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    Why you all girls here complain so much for this, i think you should all be thankful to the people that provide you with a way to earn money just from stay at home and do nothing. i really don't get it I am 33 years old mom and i know you all think about money. money isn't everything. so stop complain that much and just do what you do,no company is bad or good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JaneBurgess View Post
    You mean like most people hate their jobs period? No one has to work on a cam site, I dont see a gun to their head. You can quit at anytime and find another job. Abusive people exist in all walks of life, not just in the adult industry. I REALLY can't stand most of what you posted, it's total bullshit and rude. Don't cam, pretty simple. However you have ZERO right to talk shit about those of us that do cam.

    Hi Jane and nice to feel the love.
    1: Many girls are forced to work in the sex industry. I have already posted the reasons why many do. Abusive boyfriends who force their girls to work in the sex industry. In Eastern Europe as well as many other parts of the world many girls ARE forced into the sex industry. Maybe google " eastern girls forced to work in the sex industry" same applies to web cam sites. I have spoken to many many girls who work on cam and not one has said they do it for love. They do it for money or out of necessity or as stated above are forced to . I do not speak for any girls or guys here I am just passing comments about every girl I have spoken to and there are many. Jobs are really hard to find in many places of the world and the wages are very poor but living costs are high. If a girl enjoys being on cam with a dildo up her ass in front of 100's of freeloading assholes all screaming shit like they just escaped from a sex addiction hospital then that is their choice and their right.

    2: I hope some if not all will agree web cam sites, like any other working related industry, have a duty of care towards their models. Are you really saying its acceptable in any work place to have some guys to try and blackmail, threaten, abuse, make false reports in order to get tokens back or get the model banned from the web site? Why would a model be any different from any other person working in a "job" ? I feel your doing a disservice to web cam models by implying that any form or abuse is acceptable just because we are web cam models. Would that shit girls have to put up with be allowed in an office job? A waitress? or any other form of "Job"

    Web cam sites hold our personal information but what do we know about cam4 and its owners? Most know nothing about who runs cam4 as its made up of a bunch of companies spread out around various countries and that's about all.
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    Kim I wish to communicate with the owners of cam4 and be supplied with the information regarding where my information is kept. Please include a contact name the address zip code and all relevant information. You have my email address so please forward onto me this information. I have no wish to email support or help I wish to contact only the owners. lets see if this information is forth coming.

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    Record keeping information: http://www.cam4.com/2257_compliance_statement

    Company information at bottom: http://www.cam4.com/privacy

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    Kim Nihao and thank your for that.

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