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    Why do people think it's ok to feed their children candy, soda, processed foods and more? What happened to baby carrots, fruits, yogurt and other healthy things?

    I've been seeing it a lot and even some of my friends think its OK to give their toddler soda and candy.

    I think it's disgusting and so wrong. As a parent you are suppose condition your children- health, body and soul. if they decide to eat candy when they are a little more independent, fine. But toddlers and younger children are very dependent and they have no say on what they eat. So why condition them to eat garbage that can lead to diabetes, obesity or other health related issues??

    I think its partial child abuse.

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    There is a difference between giving a toddler pop and cookies for a meal, and letting them sample foods.

    I have let my son drink fruit punch, but only a few sips from a straw out of a glass I was drinking. I have also let him have small bits of cookies and M&Ms.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Laurisa View Post
    There is a difference between giving a toddler pop and cookies for a meal, and letting them sample foods.

    I have let my son drink fruit punch, but only a few sips from a straw out of a glass I was drinking. I have also let him have small bits of cookies and M&Ms.
    Exactly. My son eats pretty well balanced and actually enjoys fruits, veggies, cheese and yogurt. But he can still have treats once in a while. He's sampled all kinds of foods, some healthy and some not so healthy. Its just about making sure its 99% of the healthy stuff 99% of the time.

    I do understand what the OP is saying though. I saw a documentary and some woman was giving her baby Mt. Dew out of a baby bottle. So horrible.

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    I know some parents don't feed their kids a great diet.

    My son eats yogurt, and mostly Gerber brand pre-packaged toddler foods. It's hard to eat a completely 'balanced' diet.
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    I felt like because I was denied sweets and chocolate (save for weekends) as soon as I was old enough I went crazy binging on the stuff.

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    Like Laurisa said there is a difference. I don't think there is a problem with allowing kids to have cookies as a treat every so often. However, we do have an obesity problem and it's because parents are being lazy.

    When I was growing up junk food was a treat. While we did have cookies we normally had a limit on how many at a time we could eat. We went to McDonalds maybe once a week and soda was usually a weekend treat. However, we were also very active. I was roller skating for hours at a time in my basement and outside when the weather was nice. When it was nice I was also riding my bike and swimming during the summer. We also played games like tag and hide and go seek with the neighbor kids. Only one neighbor kid was chubby but his sister was not so I think in his case it probably was something he couldn't help. The rest weren't chubby even in the slightest. I plan to raise my kids like this. I get so mad when parents blame others for having fat kids. While sometimes it is genetic, 90% of the time it's poor diets. If obesity wasn't their fault how come there weren't many fat kids when I was growing up?

    The obesity problem in this country is out of hand. I was watching a video about boot camp and they were talking about how hard it is to find recruits in good shape so they take overweight and hope they pass. When I went in the navy we had to be under a certain weight and I had to be physically fit when I went. I could already do the required running/swimming/pushups/sit ups/ before I left for boot camp. Now, according to the video close to 60% fail the initial test.

    If we don't curb this problem it's going to get worse. As it is I see more fat people than I do normal size. I can go days without seeing someone who's even slightly chubby but see very fat people everywhere I go.

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    I think treats are fine in moderation, but it really annoys me too when I see kids who are barely old enough to walk toddling along behind their parents clutching soda cans or bags of candy. When I was a kid, Mc Donalds was a special treat you got for doing really good in school, and soda was only at Christmas/birthdays and at restaurants. I don't see a problem in kids having it now and then, but it's much harder to convince them to eat healthy when junk food is what they've become used to getting.

    About the mountain dew/baby bottle thing... on one episode of Toddlers And Tiara's (hardly a model for good parenting, but still) there was a little girl about 4 or 5 who kept dozing off since she'd been up since the crack of dawn for the pageant. The mom filled her sippy cup with red bull to wake her up - I was completely *facepalm*


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    I think feeding kids junk is a bad way to go, but balancing processed stuff with whole foods and organics and such seems the best to me. A hybrid of both, so that your child's system isn't completely shocked the first time they eat something processed.

    Also, if you aren't a fairly careful label reader, a LOT of foods you buy in the stores are filled with stuff that you think should be reserved for candy, or chemicals that are used in paint thinner and many other places you wouldn't want your kids to eat!

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    You must have no children if you think toddlers have no say so in what they eat. Do you have kids?

    I personally have NEVER given my daughter pop or punch. I tried to give her organic juice before but she doesn't care for it. Just milk and water. I have given her dried fruit strip things that are organic but similar to fruit by the foot, so they're a sweet treat. Either way, I think you're being really dramatic stating that its practically child abuse. Oh I also let my daughter eat fried foods, she is very small because she was preemie so I love giving her fattening stuff. No wonder I've been threatened on SW to have CPS sent to my house o_0

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    My friend's five year old kid actually had ALL of his teeth rot and have to be capped until his adult teeth come in because the parents gave him 100% fruit juice all the time (which they did in ignorance thinking it was healthy) but to top it off the grandparents feed that kid cookies and candy ALL the time even after the dad had to spend several thousand dollars on his kid's dental health.

    Unfortunately he has to depend on them for childcare but they just won't listen. But yeah-- lots of morons out there, though I do think that the more sugar we eat the more we WANT to eat it-- so it's also brain chemistry that we have to overcome.

    I'm sitting here thinking about grilled cheese and a mexican coke even after reading this:
    http://health.msn.com/healthy-living...0343&GT1=31036

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    Quote Originally Posted by Friendly View Post
    I think feeding kids junk is a bad way to go, but balancing processed stuff with whole foods and organics and such seems the best to me. A hybrid of both, so that your child's system isn't completely shocked the first time they eat something processed.

    Also, if you aren't a fairly careful label reader, a LOT of foods you buy in the stores are filled with stuff that you think should be reserved for candy, or chemicals that are used in paint thinner and many other places you wouldn't want your kids to eat!

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    Yeah, a now common ingredient in bread (of all things!) is high fructose corn syrup.

    Guess what that's been proven to do? Make you want to EAT MORE!

    If you want to feed yourself and your kids "bad" food at least try to make it a little healthier--
    avoid the chemicals if you can, avoid HFCS. Fried probably isn't the way to go even if you're trying to make your kid gain weight. I'd say see how she likes avocados, things with heavy cream in it, a wide array of meats and cheeses, and nut butters for when you're trying to put on weight.

    Though, depending on how old she is-- if she's slender, you might just want to let her be and have her eat unless you think she's getting sick easily from being underweight. Supposedly your fat cells all come from when you're a kid-- but they grow and expand as an adult when you're gaining weight. So the less shit your kid is eating then maybe the less fat cells she'll have as an adult. Also, for females, I think puberty tends to be triggered, among other things, by fat. So if your kid stays slender and super active she'll have her period later on in life and be taller and more slender. However, if your culture values shorter and curvier women, then you can go the other route. It's not going to completely overcome genetics, but I do think it contributes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JoJoX View Post
    Why do people think it's ok to feed their children candy, soda, processed foods and more? What happened to baby carrots, fruits, yogurt and other healthy things?

    I've been seeing it a lot and even some of my friends think its OK to give their toddler soda and candy.

    I think it's disgusting and so wrong. As a parent you are suppose condition your children- health, body and soul. if they decide to eat candy when they are a little more independent, fine. But toddlers and younger children are very dependent and they have no say on what they eat. So why condition them to eat garbage that can lead to diabetes, obesity or other health related issues??

    I think its partial child abuse.
    I see it all the time too, especially at the grocery store.

    I see people toting around carts full of sugary cereal, frozen pizzas, eggs, milk, things drowning in cheese, pastries, processed meats. And if they have fruits and veg in their cart its iceberg lettuce, potatoes, tomatoes, bananas, oranges or apples. Just really bland stuff.

    I like my kale, bok choy, litchi, mangoes.

    I usually get myself a treat or two when I am at the grocery store. Last week I bought a wildberry pie and strawberry frozen yogurt.

    The rest of my cart was filled with:

    -greek yogurt
    -bok choy
    -kale
    -green onions
    -rice
    -whole grain bread
    -chick peas
    -mixed beans
    -peanut butter
    -mixed nuts
    -oranges
    -peaches
    -nectarines
    -chinese brocoli
    - rice milk
    -mixed salad
    -granola
    - frozen mixed veggies
    -blue cheese
    -nature burgers



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    Quote Originally Posted by BringOnTheMen View Post
    I remember having a birthday dinner at McDonalds several times as a kid because it was that big of a deal.

    Mmmmmmmm....McDonalds sounds good right now.
    I remember that too! The cakes they did were pretty cool.



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    When I was growing up my mother would make things like baked chicken, mashed potatoes, and broccoli or bulgogi (its korean steak basically with sesame marinate and usually onions) and kimchi for dinner because she "did not know how to cook".

    Now parents who don't know how to cook just pop things from a box in the oven or go to a drive through.

    As a kid growing up pop was only for special occasions like Christmas or birthdays. Mc Donalds was on birthdays or special events. Fries from the oven were for when dinner needed to be fast.



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    Quote Originally Posted by BringOnTheMen View Post
    I don't understand the differences between the two lists....they're almost identical in nutritional value. In fact, your two "treats" (wildberry pie and frozen yogurt) are probably much higher in sugar and fat than sugary cereal and frozen pizza. I also don't understand why you are dissing people who eat fruits and veggies.
    Well perhaps you are misunderstanding...

    When I see a cart full of processed foods and maybe 10% fruits and vegs (and very bland ones at that), one has to wonder what effect that has on the person eating like that.

    Now i know that my list there did not contain all the ingredients to make kimchi, but it is a staple of my diet for the most part. Please don't tell me that kimchi and rice is identical in nutritional value to say frozen pizza and french fries.

    As for the wildberry pie and frozen yogurt...keep in mind that's a treat and not a staple for everyday diet. Cereal on the other hand is something most kids will have on a daily basis before the start of their school day. I am not starting my day on pie and frozen yogurt.



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    Quote Originally Posted by BringOnTheMen View Post
    Ok so now this post confuses me too. "knowing how to cook" is not really an issue. In fact, a lot of people could do without cooking so much and grabbing something light and fresh. An apple or salad is much better than mashed potatoes.
    I am not talking about people who grab fruits and salads. I am talking about drive thru food like burgers and fries.

    Salads BTW can be very bad for you depending on what you put on them/in them. Some of those Mc donald's salads have just as much sugar/salt/fat as their burgers..

    And I do agree in general a salad or apple can be much better for you then say mashed potatoes. Again that would really depend on how you prepare the mashed potatoes and what exactly you are putting in the salad.



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    What does someone finding the taste of a fruit or veggie to be bland have to do with it's nutritional value?

    For srs, we should be glad to see people with kid friendly fruits/veggies in their carts PERIOD... because a lot of the time, I don't see a single fresh item in carts. No fresh meat. No veggies. No fruits. NOTHING. So. To criticize people for not choosing 'good enough' fruits and veggies? That's just silly, imo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BringOnTheMen View Post
    Maybe I'm misunderstanding, but I really don't think I am. You buy a mixture of "bad" and "good" food and say that you are eating a balanced diet with treats but then you look at someone else's shopping cart who has the same foods as you and act disgusted that someone would have sugar in the morning. Just like your pie doesn't really count because it's a treat, the other person's fruits don't count just because you find them bland.
    its not that they don't count, its the amount of fruits and veg in comparison to the amount of processed foods.

    And my pie does count, but I certainly would not be eating that every day. Nor would I expect my family to eat it every day.

    I am sorry but honestly I think eating beans, rice and kimchi on a daily basis is a whole lot better then say eating fried foods and french fries. And when I see a cart full of frozen pizzas, fries, frozen dinners, chips, pop, sugary cereals, etc I kinda have to wonder if these people are eating like this all the time.



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    Quote Originally Posted by DesuvsDeath View Post
    What does someone finding the taste of a fruit or veggie to be bland have to do with it's nutritional value?

    For srs, we should be glad to see people with kid friendly fruits/veggies in their carts PERIOD... because a lot of the time, I don't see a single fresh item in carts. No fresh meat. No veggies. No fruits. NOTHING. So. To criticize people for not choosing 'good enough' fruits and veggies? That's just silly, imo.

    That I can agree with. Being bland has nothing to do with nutritional value, however I just wish people would be more open to trying more exotic fruits and veggies.



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    Quote Originally Posted by FiendishGyrator View Post
    If you want to feed yourself and your kids "bad" food at least try to make it a little healthier--
    avoid the chemicals if you can, avoid HFCS. Fried probably isn't the way to go even if you're trying to make your kid gain weight. I'd say see how she likes avocados, things with heavy cream in it, a wide array of meats and cheeses, and nut butters for when you're trying to put on weight.

    Though, depending on how old she is-- if she's slender, you might just want to let her be and have her eat unless you think she's getting sick easily from being underweight. Supposedly your fat cells all come from when you're a kid-- but they grow and expand as an adult when you're gaining weight. So the less shit your kid is eating then maybe the less fat cells she'll have as an adult. Also, for females, I think puberty tends to be triggered, among other things, by fat. So if your kid stays slender and super active she'll have her period later on in life and be taller and more slender. However, if your culture values shorter and curvier women, then you can go the other route. It's not going to completely overcome genetics, but I do think it contributes.
    I cannot force her to eat stuff she doesn't like. I used to slave over making her a super delicious and healthy soup, vegetables, fresh meat, beans, in homemade broth. She refused. She is at a stage where she won't eat something unless she can pick it up and feed herself, or if she just doesn't like it. Feeding time became a nightmare. She would scream and cry so much she puked up the little food she had ate within 5 minutes of us starting. She lost weight and her pediatrician told me to find foods she likes and can feed herself, and stick with that. She has gained weight during the last few weeks and has continued to. It is a combination of finding food that she will actually eat and switching her day cares (the one she was in before had sick kids who weren't sent home and she got sick EVERY single week and lost weight each time). I mostly give her whatever I am eating, but meals especially for her are grilled cheese, home made mashed potatoes, Cuban croquettes, fried chicken, wheat bread/biscuits, oatmeal with dried fruits. She snacks a lot in between, mostly yogurt, cheese, sliced apples, dried fruits, watermelon, bananas and BLUEBERRIES,, she is obsessed with them. She goes through two packages each week. Now that I typed all that I really don't think my daughter isn't eating well. Her snacks are very healthy.
    Anyways I really don't think it is fair to judge other people on how they are feeding their kids. Just make sure that when you do have your own you feed them whatever you think is best. I know that for some people taking their kids to McDonald's for 49 cent cheeseburgers is all they can afford. Fruits are very expensive, and in general, eating healthy is not cheap. It is more costly than going through fast food restaurants if you really think about it. I am just thankful I can buy my daughter her high calorie milks, and fruits, and veggies, and pay the extra cost for a day care where she doesn't get sick and gets fed good, homemade food.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BringOnTheMen View Post
    But your first "bad" cart didn't have those things in it. Your first cart had milk, eggs, meat, cheese....pretty basic, healthy staples for people who cook.

    Re-read it, I did include those things:

    I see people toting around carts full of sugary cereal, frozen pizzas, eggs, milk, things drowning in cheese, pastries, processed meats. And if they have fruits and veg in their cart its iceberg lettuce, potatoes, tomatoes, bananas, oranges or apples. Just really bland stuff.
    Now I can agree with you (to some extent) that eggs, milk, cheese, meat are good items.

    But understand that I am talking about a cart full of foods that contain these items.

    And I am sure you can agree with me that eating cheese or meat at every meal is not a good thing. Maybe I am too "pro-Asian culture" but compare the size of the people over there to the people over here and take a look at their diets. Obesity is rare over there. Its something like 4% of the population, vs in the US it is somewhere around 35%. That's quite a staggering difference.



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    I try to feed my 3-year-old son healthy food but he still eats junk like cookies, pizza, fast food, etc. occasionally. Fortunately, he loves carrots and broccoli so I don't have a problem in the veggie department.

    He's also a skinny kid and I used to be afraid he was underweight, but after getting him checked out he's still in the normal range, just on the low end. My biggest frustration with him is that unless it's a snack, something sweet or a PB&J sandwich, he will not eat ANYTHING unless you literally spoon-feed him every bite. He says he's "too lazy" to eat it himself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smurfette View Post
    I try to feed my 3-year-old son healthy food but he still eats junk like cookies, pizza, fast food, etc. occasionally. Fortunately, he loves carrots and broccoli so I don't have a problem in the veggie department.

    He's also a skinny kid and I used to be afraid he was underweight, but after getting him checked out he's still in the normal range, just on the low end. My biggest frustration with him is that unless it's a snack, something sweet or a PB&J sandwich, he will not eat ANYTHING unless you literally spoon-feed him every bite. He says he's "too lazy" to eat it himself.
    Yes! Thank you for that. Toddlers can go on a food strike and it is soooo stressful. But man, boys sure are lazy! We have the opposite problem, she wants to feed herself, he wants to be fed. Ha! Only thing I can feed her is yogurt, and not all the time. Sometimes I have to let her make a mess and feed herself just so she'll eat some.
    I know that I was always thin as a kid, and I have never been fat. I try to look at the upside of her being thin and hope she will have a good metabolism and never be obese. I also take into consideration that I've always been thin, and my ex husband (her dad) even thinner, waaaaaay thinner than me so it should factor in, too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OJenni! View Post
    That I can agree with. Being bland has nothing to do with nutritional value, however I just wish people would be more open to trying more exotic fruits and veggies.
    I think a lot of the time it's a cost issue.
    You can get a bad of apples for $3... or you could get 3 avacados/pomegranates/whatever... ya know?
    PLUS a lot of people find it hard to justify an extra $5-10 a week to pick up extra fruits in the HOPE your kids might like them. It's not REALLY that much money... but for some people money can be REALLY tight.
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    Whatevs.... I am not a "perfect" parent, no one is. I feed my daughter Mickey D's, kid cuisines, fruit snacks, hotdogs, you name it. She's not 300lbs. She eats veggies and fruit for a snack and she's very active. I think it's beyond judgmental to say it's disgusting to feed your child these things. Unless the child is unhealthy or overweight then I don't see the problem. Do you have any kids Jojo? Because when you're on the go alot, it's hard and like someone else said, more expensive to eat really healthy these days. To say that feeding your child these things is partial child abuse is also ridiculous, IMO.

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