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    Default Ran out on the cops & a crisis evaluation- Long story, but quick question..


    Not to start on a negative note, but I do NOT need any "get your life together" lectures, nor anyone telling me how stupid I am for the situation. I already know this. I also have no qualms about speaking freely about it on a public forum because it's all well-known information.



    As mentioned in a couple other threads, I got severely hurt last Saturday.
    I did leave out most the crazy details, but I'm going to share more of them now because I need to have this answered, and I really don't know who to ask. I don't feel like this is something I can just call up and question.

    Aside from my severe injury, I also had a relapse that day and had been doing quite a bit of coke. There was also some other illegal stuff in my apartment. For whatever reason, the ambulance team showed up with the cops. I was honest with them about the drugs, because I figured they needed to know since I was bleeding a lot and of course I'm sure the coke would make me bleed more. The cops looked around my apartment and of course saw the plate of coke and other stuff, and they tried to ask me where I got it from (I didn't tell them..) I didn't let them search my place, and they didn't take anything, but they came to the hospital and were hanging around, and even tried to question my friend.

    Keeping the long story short (and even though the damn doctor said himself he could see how I fell)

    EDIT- Tangent, feel free to skip over it explains a bit but is not needed info to answer the question: there was this wretched EMT who kept telling them I did it to myself (even after the dr said you could tell by the wounds that it wasnt self inflicted). Me AND my friend who was sitting with me (so ik i'm not crazy) could hear her through the curtain refer to me as a "coke whore" and telling other orderlys LOUDLY on the ward that "we know she did it to herself" "shes just trying to get attention, it's not even that bad its already stopped bleeding" Right. Which is why the bed was soaked through as was the towel by the time I left..

    I had tried to show them the other pieces of glass that I had put in the bathtub, but they wouldn't let me go show them. Hell, they could hear the water running and wouldn't even let me go turn it off before we left my place..

    Oh, and the best part: I asked in the ambulence for a glass of water to which the EMT said outright "No, I'm not going to give you water" and the cunt seriously said "maybe you'll learn". I asked all the other staff who were around when they took me in the hospital, to which that EMT actually said to them "No, she can't have water".

    Sorry, got off on a tangent.


    In the end they decided I needed a crisis evaluation and I never actually was sat down with the cops, but I heard they were still there. However after ages of being left to bleed, ignored machines going off as my blood pressure went crazy (they already had said they were worried about me stopping breathing or going into shock) and not even being allowed to have ice chips I decided I was NOT going to be losing my leg, going to jail, or getting committed. There's another ER ad urgent care facility back where my friend lives, so she agreed to take me there.

    She helped me get dressed and went to pull the car around. I then loosened all the plugs on me and ripped them of in 1 swift rip once there seemed to be the least amount of people around. Well, okay not that smoothly. lol

    I got into the hall, casually limping past the nurses, got to the waiting room, paused to see what the guard was doing then just booked it past security (yes, with a leg in crazy pain bleeding through my clothes). Jumped in the car, we drove over the side walk (I'm amazed we didn't blow out a tire) and I crawled into the back seat and laid on the floor as we drove away.

    I got out to where I needed to go, didn't mentioned the drug use and they stitched me up right away.

    Now within the next week I need to have my stitches out. My pcp is about 45 minutes away, and the place I went to get them is even further. I have no car or even any friends with a car out here where I live. The only place I can think to go get them out is back at the hospital, plus I need to be seen about my leg because the feeling they thought should be back within 24 hours is still not. Can't feel ice, heat, pin pricks, although it can feel pressure when applied heavy enough.

    I'm worried about getting in trouble if I go back. I'd think if it were that serious they would have shown up at my house, right? I don't think anyone was here after I ran from the hospital and I've been mostly home since with no one stopping by..But I'm worried if I go back they'll do something whether it be the legal trouble or even just keep me there for the psych eval.

    So that's my question attached to this novel. Can I get in trouble in any form if I go back to the hospital to follow up on that injury? I realize I'm a bit deserving of any legal issues but I'm definitely NOT a risk to myself. I have a LOT of bad history at this hospital, too. They..uhm..definitely know who I am.
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    Default Re: Ran out on the cops & a crisis evaluation- Long story, but quick question..

    I'm not sure if you'd get in trouble but am concerned with how the EMT treated you. Whether you were a coke whore or not doesn't mean she should say that. I would bring that up.

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    There are sooo many complaints about this hospital and their staff. Nothings ever been doing. They caused major complications with my wrist due to neglect the last time I was admitted, and also in the past an orderly violated HIPPAA. They awfulness is why I ran out, but I'm just worried if they can arrest me or force me through an eval if I go back.

    I actually fell twice, once initially and then when trying to contain the mess in the bathtub. Idk who called the ambulence the 2nd time, but my friend was on her way here to take me but I sent the crew away the first time because it wasn't too much damage at that point and they were already singing their self injury song.

    The lady was there both times, first and second, but at the very least I got to give her a piece of my mind and throw pickle juice at her the second time..which in retrospect was prolly why she was so mad as to deny me water lmao
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    Default Re: Ran out on the cops & a crisis evaluation- Long story, but quick question..

    But regardless of everything, I just need to know if they can pursue anything if I show back up there. I will take my own freakin' stitches out if it means avoiding a crisis eval.
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    Default Re: Ran out on the cops & a crisis evaluation- Long story, but quick question..

    Seems like they would have shown up at your house if you were really in trouble with them.


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    Default Re: Ran out on the cops & a crisis evaluation- Long story, but quick question..

    Quote Originally Posted by laurielegs View Post
    Seems like they would have shown up at your house if you were really in trouble with them.
    Okay, yeah that was my thinking, but of course I didn't wanna make assumptions and just go strolling in there lol
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    Default Re: Ran out on the cops & a crisis evaluation- Long story, but quick question..

    if you do end up in jail you will get medical treatment there. I would think at this point if you really dislike that hospital that much it may be worth taking greyhound bus and then public transit to get to another hospital. But remember the longer u wait the worse your leg will get so go as soon as possible. Unless the police searched your place after and gathered evidence they probably are not building a case. but having seen two close family members go to jail for drugs. I can say for them it was not the worst thing. My uncle Luis used the group therapy and medical treatment system in jail to get clean. My uncle chewy also went to jail and that was what allowed him to give up the bottle. He became a christian in jail, got on antidepressents and sobered up. so while going to jail is a harrowing experience it can be used to get ones life together. good luck.
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    Default Re: Ran out on the cops & a crisis evaluation- Long story, but quick question..

    Right, I'm even less worried about the legal because they didnt take anything and like mentioned before I think they could've just showed up here..But if I go back with the same injury as before, can they make me do the psych eval?
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    Hmmm.... while I don't think you'd be in trouble because they clearly have some serious issues that you should pursue in complaining about them, why would you want to go back to a hospital where they clearly don't know they're elbow from their asshole?

    You're just asking for more negligence, shitty treatment, and possibly even an infection since hospitals are already huge infection magnets and if they're that shitty then I can't imagine they're on top of cleaning the damn place.

    Can you put an ad on craigslist for someone to take you to the other hospital for like $20-- like a rideshare in that direction?

    If it wasn't for the numbness in your leg, I would tell you to take the stitches out yourself (unless you see infection, or red streaks radiating outward.) can you call a nurses hotline, or call the good hospital and ask them what they're going to do about testing your leg? Because in all likelihood, they'll take out the stiches, and maybe need to do tests on a different day.

    How swollen is the area?

    Maybe they'll tell you to let the swelling go down further and doing the stitches yourself can buy you extra time to figure out getting a ride to the good hospital.

    Taking Stitches out yourself:
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    Here's a funny pick me up article:
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    Default Re: Ran out on the cops & a crisis evaluation- Long story, but quick question..

    Quote Originally Posted by Brilynne View Post
    Right, I'm even less worried about the legal because they didnt take anything and like mentioned before I think they could've just showed up here..But if I go back with the same injury as before, can they make me do the psych eval?
    Idk, but would that be such a bad thing at this point?

    I'm not saying that to be mean. After reading your posts a couple of times I couldn't help but wonder whether a little help would be the worst answer for you. No young woman - unless she has some life threatening disease - she be well known by the local hospital staff for any reason, nevermind for whatever has led to your past visits. There also seemed to be a lot of excess drama in your interactions with the people who came, not once but twice, to help you.

    Again, I'm not trying to sound harsh and I do not know anything about you, but if you are having control problems and truly believe that "the world is fucked" then maybe a little break, and someone to talk to, might not be such a bad idea.

    Anyway, just my

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    Default Re: Ran out on the cops & a crisis evaluation- Long story, but quick question..

    I wouldn't go back, not because they might try to eval you or get you in trouble, but because of the shitty or lack of treatment. If you do go back, arm yourself with pickle juice! JK, good luck. I know this wasn't meant to be entertaining, but I thoroughly enjoyed reading your post. Sorry, but, thanks. Good luck again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rickdugan View Post
    Idk, but would that be such a bad thing at this point?

    I'm not saying that to be mean. After reading your posts a couple of times I couldn't help but wonder whether a little help would be the worst answer for you. No young woman - unless she has some life threatening disease - she be well known by the local hospital staff for any reason, nevermind for whatever has led to your past visits. There also seemed to be a lot of excess drama in your interactions with the people who came, not once but twice, to help you.

    Again, I'm not trying to sound harsh and I do not know anything about you, but if you are having control problems and truly believe that "the world is fucked" then maybe a little break, and someone to talk to, might not be such a bad idea.

    Anyway, just my

    I'm just shocked that an EMT wasnt nicer to a coked up patient who was yelling and throwing things at her when she was there trying to help

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    ^ Where did it say she was yelling and throwing things? Is that in a different thread?

    Speaking as a former hospital worker myself, I would have caught hell if I'd acted like that shitty EMT person. You don't have to be "nice" but you don't act like a shit either. Riding in an ambulance and being in a hospital for ANY reason is scary enough.

    Personally, I would write a complaint though I know some would laugh at that.

    I once got taken to task for asking for a patient's file in a neutral voice because he'd died of a heroin overdose and the family was sitting within earshot. I'd like to think I would have been harshly treated if I'd denied someone water, or if I'd said a drugged person "deserved" it, whether it was harsh treatment or the damage done to themselves.

    Do you know how many people go into hospitals who contributed significantly to them being in the hospital?
    LOADS. So think of how well it'd go over if every fattie in the hospital or person who had a heart attack from living badly is denied water and told they deserve it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FiendishGyrator View Post
    ^ Where did it say she was yelling and throwing things? Is that in a different thread?
    As follows, earlier in this thread:

    Quote Originally Posted by Brilynne View Post
    The lady was there both times, first and second, but at the very least I got to give her a piece of my mind and throw pickle juice at her the second time..which in retrospect was prolly why she was so mad as to deny me water lmao

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    I've done volunteer work in a group home for people with illnesses such as schizophrenia and bi-polar disorder, and on a few occassions the authorities became involved due to a risk of 'self-harm' by some the residents. I put that phrase in quotes because, in health as with every other field, deviance can be constructed by those who have little understanding of the people they are 'intervening' on behalf of. You apparently have experienced that first hand, and I'm sorry.
    In Canada, at least, a crisis evaluation is only conducted if there is deemed to be an immediate need (as in, you are deemed to be in crisis NOW), and adults cannot be held for a psych eval for an event that occured in the past. The issue of the coke is seperate, and as the police know where you live, if they wanted to follow up I suspect they would have done so by now.
    In the US it may be different, but either way, you need to find some immediate treatment for your leg, at a different hospital or health care provider. In a perfect world health care providers wouldn't hold grudges or hold biased opinions about individual patients, but as Fiendish described, this is not a perfect world.
    You need to see a doctor, without the stress of returning to a hospital with which you have an unpleasant history. Use your obvious intelligence and creativity to find a safe way to get there, and make this your first priority, please.

    Then, once your leg injuries have been tended to, you can work on finding some further supports in your fight to get clean for good. SW can be a resource for this as well
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    Default Re: Ran out on the cops & a crisis evaluation- Long story, but quick question..

    Note the yelling and pickle juice *wasn't* unprovoked.

    But anyways, different circumstances landed my ass in the hospital anyways, so there goes this whole thread
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    Quote Originally Posted by rickdugan View Post
    Idk, but would that be such a bad thing at this point?

    I'm not saying that to be mean. After reading your posts a couple of times I couldn't help but wonder whether a little help would be the worst answer for you. No young woman - unless she has some life threatening disease - she be well known by the local hospital staff for any reason, nevermind for whatever has led to your past visits. There also seemed to be a lot of excess drama in your interactions with the people who came, not once but twice, to help you.

    Again, I'm not trying to sound harsh and I do not know anything about you, but if you are having control problems and truly believe that "the world is fucked" then maybe a little break, and someone to talk to, might not be such a bad idea.

    Anyway, just my
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    As for the drama- I didn't start with the attitude. i was disrespected, and I'm not one to take that lightly. Our hospital is also well known as the *worst* care around.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brilynne View Post
    As for the drama- I didn't start with the attitude. i was disrespected, and I'm not one to take that lightly. Our hospital is also well known as the *worst* care around.
    Brilynne, I hear what you are saying, but I still cannot help but think that you are struggling mightily. Drug binging, a young girl with multiple trips to the hospital, dramatic interactions with medical staff, including yelling and throwing pickle juice at an EMT, as well as an already bad rep with the hospital for past behavior, all lead me to believe that you have some heavy duty stuff that you are having trouble with.

    To be clear, I'm not judging you. In fact, with all of the stupid shit I've done over the years, it is a minor miracle that I'm alive and healthy. Hell, even now at 41, with my own business and a beautiful family, I still struggle with impulse control and still do stupid shit now and then, and I was a lot worse in my younger days. So in a nutshell, you're getting no sermons from me.

    But your stuff sounds like it is hitting high gear and I can't help but wonder if you might benefit from a short break from the world and perhaps even sober up a bit. I don't know you and this is a thought based solely upon what you have posted, but there it is.

    In any event, good luck with all of this.

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    i'm kind of surprised you managed to get past security.
    if you do go back, i'm sure you will be evaluated, but like rick mentioned, your histrionic behavior suggests this is not the worst idea. will anything come of it if this is the worst hospital in the world? idk but if it means you can go to the hospital without sneaking around police officers, it's probably best.

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