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    Default BP Wants to Drill the Gulf..........Again

    Oh, man. I may never get to eat another Gulf Oyster in this lifetime.

    http://therealnews.com/t2/index.php?...4&jumival=7370
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    Default Re: BP Wants to Drill the Gulf..........Again

    actually, I'd be much more worried about ...

    (snip)"But another threat has also emerged. In an effort to discover new reserves of oil and gas, Cuba plans to drill five deepwater oil wells in the Gulf of Mexico this summer.

    Manley Fuller, president of the Florida Wildlife Federation, believes the risk is far too great. “Florida’s coastal environment and our many natural resource-based jobs are extremely vulnerable to oil spills. A major spill in Cuba’s northern waters would quickly appear on Florida’s beaches and shores, wreaking havoc on fishing, tourism, and our entire coastal economy.”

    There are a number of concerns regarding this endeavor, but the most significant are the proposed drilling depth and proximity of the sites to Florida.

    The wells would be in waters ranging from 400 meters to 1,500 meters (1.6 miles) deep, an additional 600 feet deeper than BP’s Deepwater Horizon rig in the Gulf. According to NWF Senior Scientist Doug Inkley, “If we learned anything from the Gulf oil disaster, it is that drilling safely a mile deep really is beyond current technological capabilities. The potential rig in Cuba and other deepwater wells are high risk, another reason we must transition quickly to a new energy future that reduces our addiction to oil.”

    The northernmost tip of Cuba is located less than 100 miles from Key West, but the rig would stand on the outer edge of Cuba’s territorial waters, just 50 miles off Florida’s coast. In the case of a spill, conservative estimates predict it would take just three days for oil to reach U.S. shores."(snip)

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    while the press reports are unclear, it would appear that Russian, Angolan and Vietnamese 'partners' are involved in this Cuban based new drilling now taking place in the Gulf of Mexico ... none of which can be immediately associated with 'cutting edge' oil drilling technology.

    And of course mexican oil company PEMEX continues to drill in the Gulf of Mexico as well. PEMEX was the owner / operator of an offshore oil well ( Ixtoc ) that previously spilled 3.5 million barrels worth of crude ( i.e. 4 to 5 times the 800,000 barrel amount spilled by BP's Horizon well ) - although that PEMEX oil spill received next to no US publicity despite the fact that it still holds the record for the 'worst offshore oil spill in North American history'.

    Ultimately, the US gov't does not control a whole bunch of drilling areas in the gulf of mexico that are outside of US territory. Nor does the US gov't control safety standards for wells operating in gulf of mexico areas outside of US territory. And obviously the US gov't cannot erect an oil spill proof 'fence' to prevent oil spilled in cuban / mexican / international waters from reaching US beaches. Arguably, and trying to remain completely factual without raising political issues, last year's US moratorium on gulf oil drilling was a clear contributing factor ( by creating a shortage of nearby crude oil supply for gulf state oil refineries ) towards this year's new Cuban offshore oil drilling activities, the consequences of which will be even higher future risk of oil spills contaminating US gulf state beaches and waters.

    Indeed you may want to think twice about eating Gulf state oysters in the future. But the reasons not to eat them may actually have much more to do with gulf drilling now taking place in territories outside of US control ... territories that are subject to far more lax safety standards, and territories that have far weaker environmental 'watchdogs' to report spills ... than with any potential new drilling by BP in US controlled gulf of mexico waters.
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    Default Re: BP Wants to Drill the Gulf..........Again

    It's so crazy. All oil companies have to do is put the time and money into new technology so they don't destroy everything around them and lose gallons of product to boot!
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    ^^^ yes but certainly in Cuba and arguably in Mexico they have little 'official' incentive to do so ... and face decreased profits by doing so. And in terms of the lost value of spilled product, you're talking something like 800k times $80 or 64 million from the BP Macondo well ... versus hundreds of millions or billions in additional drilling / well costs to comply with new US well safety standards. This is a huge financial incentive for non US oil companies to erect 'cheap' wells in Cuban waters versus 'expensive' wells in US waters even if the US moratorium were lifted and new US drilling permits were granted. Of course, under US law, US oil companies are barred from doing business in Cuba.

    In fairness to Mexico, they are supposedly now negotiating with the US in regard to comparable future well safety standards. It remains to be seen where those negotiations lead. But for certain no similar well safety standards are being considered by Cuba.

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    Maybe Cuba would do it in return for lifting more trade restrictions. I mean enough is enough with the pollution already.
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    Default Re: BP Wants to Drill the Gulf..........Again

    I remember when I first lived in Texas, there had been a small spill. My parents got me from the airport and took me to the beach and were like "yeah, um, mind the oil".

    Later (my last job, which I was laid off from) I ended up being intimately involved in the Deepwater Horizon cleanup efforts.

    It isn't just that though, it isn't just the Gulf... and quite honestly these companies keep my old work in business. Exwork would advise of leaks in pipelines, etc. and the company would ignore it because it cost too much to fix, yet they posted record profits. So did my company, when they sprung a leak.

    More accountability would be nice.

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    still having friends and family in Louisiana it freaks me out everytime i hear the name BP. The chemicals they sprayed in the Louisiana are still making people sick. BP was playing dictator in preventing media and fishermen from going into spill areas on US territory. Acting as if was private property when it was not. On top of the fact that anytime there is a spill it seems to be just another excuse to raise gas prices.
    fuck bp.
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    I feel its kind of a dick move that we don't want to let oil companies drill in our country because it ruins the environment and yet we are perfectly ok with them drilling the fuck out of other countries so we can use their oil. We use 25% of the world oil, if somebodies beaches need to be getting fucked it should be ours before anyone elses. Maybe when our beaches are dead black wastelands we will start rethinking our dependance on oil.
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    ^^^ I doubt that would ever happen ... based on the fact that the dead black wastelands of Nigeria haven't attracted the least bit of attention by mainstream US media even though the vast majority of the oil produced from those dead black wastelands is destined for US consumption. However, it is a distinct possibility that US beaches will wind up being covered with future leaking oil from a Russian oil well in Cuban waters ... essentially placing the US in a Nigeria situation but WITHOUT the resulting oil revenues !!!

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    Well yes, obviously most people on the U.S. are not going to give a fuck about the Nigerian beach front property, but they would pay attention if it was ours.
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    Perhaps we are being skullfucked again.
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    Back in April I wrote a couple of articles about how rampant speculation by Koch Industries, Goldman Sachs and other big players in the energy markets has been driving up the price of oil. Immediately, a bunch of freemarket sockpuppets came out of the woodwork and infested our comments section, repeating the same invisible-hand-knows-best bullshit: Speculators are a force of good, not evil; they don’t drive up prices, but in fact help keep them low. Sounds plausible, right?

    Well, a few weeks ago Senator Bernie Sanders leaked a small batch of secret energy trading data compiled by the U.S. Commodity Futures Trading Commission which showed that in the summer of 2008, when the price of oil was spiking to a record $148 per barrel, the oil commodities market was one giant speculatory cesspool dominated by the largest fraud-ridden banks, investment funds and oil companies in the world, including Goldman Sachs, JP Morgan Chase, BP and Koch Industries.(snip)

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