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    Last night while I was checking out of my club, one of my managers had asked if i wanted to leave anything for the staff (tip wise). I had been waiting over a half hour for him to decide to sign my card and everything was already tucked away in my locker. I told him it was in my locker and I hadn't counted it. He was very pushy. I was extremely annoyed because honestly they are very rude at my club and don't help me out at all. We are told to tip if we are helped out or have a room. I had neither last night. Anyway, after he made me wait to check out I decided to just leave. He followed me out to where I was waiting for my car and asked who I tipped on the way out. I didn't cave, I had already tipped the dj, the housemom and paid nearly $100 in house fees on top of that. I don't like being bullied into tipping extra when it isn't deserved. I tip generously at times but not all the time. Tipping is discretionary and goes both ways in my world. I should be receiving at least mediocre friendly treatment if a tip is expected. I feel like I specifically didn't tip last night because he was so rude with how he demanded it. At one point, I just said "I'll get them next time". He said "Why don't you do it now?" to which i replied "They're already getting my car and I've been trying to leave for an hour". How should I handle this situation?

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    What staff is he talking about, if you'd already tipped the dj and the housemom and paid over $100 in house fees? The bouncers? The VIP hosts? Him?

    That's really bullshit, and that would piss me off to no end. I HATE people who demand tips for nothing. And I'm a very generous tipper, too. I would tell him flat out, in a firm but non-confrontational way, that you feel that the staff does not help you out or have your back and are very rude to you, so you do not see the need to tip until they begin to do their jobs. Maybe (doubtful, but maybe) the staff members in question are always bitching to him that they never get tipped, but he is unaware that they are not doing the jobs they're supposed to do to earn those tips. Maybe nobody has ever brought this negligence to his attention. Or maybe he's a greedy bastard, or involved with one of the staff members in question, or any other similar drama. At the worst, you can just find another club to work at.

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    Hi, thanks for your reply!

    I think he is talking about the "boys on the floor". I guess there's a pool of money they split up which I contribute to when they help me or I get a room. I find it unbelievable that he followed me out to the car area when the club was packed.

    Just for a little bit more of background on my club, my club has two floors, downstairs and upstairs. The clients with money sit upstairs and girls are not allowed to mingle with or approach them unless invited up by a VIP host. I do VERY well at my club yet the only girls that are invited up there are the ones who always tip out over 30%. That is the only way to be invited up there. I make do by not getting involved in all that.

    I try to handle everything in a calm respectful way so I have decided after some thought that if this issue is brought up by him again in the future I'm going to respond with "I think I am confused here so don't take this the wrong way but are we talking about TIPS or FEES". To which I am going to let him answer and not respond. It is a tip out and not a mandatory fee so once he answers I will just smile sweetly and walk away. I guess there's not much more I can do. I have tipped out hundredS on good nights so he should quit nickle and diming me.

    How does anyone suggest I handle the question of "Would you like to leave anything extra?" while I am paying house and can't afford to tip on top of what I have already tipped out.

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    I always say thats a rude question, if I wanted to leave any extra behind I would of by now. I always tip people who help the right amount and not the others who didn't help. I know I don't get well liked but they are trying to be lazy while I work my ass off.

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    Sounds like the kind of place where you have to establish yourself as a generous tipper before anybody wants to help you out. If you don't want to play that game, then don't. When the manager asks, say "I already tipped the people who helped me tonight." If he pushes, just say directly, "I didn't use the services of so-and-so. If he helps me out next time, I'll tip him next time." If this doesn't get the freakin' message across to him, just say bluntly, "I don't tip employees who don't do anything for me. If I felt they deserved a tip, I would have given it already, but I don't tip for nonexistent service." Then ignore him if he follows you.

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    I worked at a club like this, except it didn't matter whether we tipped a lot or not. The staff didn't try to help dancers make more money but expected tips. I was confronted by the manager who would always give me a hard time for not tipping him or other people. I told him I tip people who help me. I always tipped the DJ, the bouncer who walked to my car, and the one waitress who often recommended customers to me. I refusd to tip the manager, or the various other staff members he wanted me to tip but did nothing for me. Eventually I left the club though partly because of what I thought of as extortion.

    I wouldn't feel bad for not tipping. Just say like mentioned that you will tip those who do a service for you. You say they have generous VIP guys but even if you tip no guarantee the floor staff will even recommend you to them anyway.

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    Another answer: Maybe he's trying to "groom" you.

    He sees that you do well downstairs and figures you would do well upstairs with the bigger spenders as well. The only drawback: You don't tip the desired amount (in their minds).

    Maybe he thinks you haven't figured out "the system" and so he's trying to teach you-so they can make money off you for sending you upstairs. You mentioned that it was your choice not to participate in the tipping 30% but maybe he doesn't know that you made that choice. In other words, he doesn't think much of your reasoning ability.

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    I used to tip the DJs at my club regularly.

    When they started playing shitty music and I not hyping the crowd up for me then I stopped tipping them. I really don't tip anyone out at work, I just pay my house fee. I stick to myself at work and am friendly with only a few other dancers. I like having my money go home with me, and I frankly don't care if the DJ dislikes it or not. My managers still like me and the customers still spend on me, so I'm the one laughing.

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