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    Quote Originally Posted by Lovelyx View Post
    I'm wondering what she do in private (the same private always since is a recorded video) in case she gets full naked and masturbate (which we don't know, I dont know if this camdecoy software provide a full masturbation show) in case it does...she always provide the same pvt..so regular members of her should already notice this. And I doubt this 'girl' or 'guy' really provide any ID identification to SM, I suspect SM itself is behind all this.
    Yes, they have to be aware because a good part of the feedback is pointing out that it's a recording, plus nobody can host that many hours. Apparently according to the camdecoy site it switches to another clip when Private (and has a black "connecting..." clip while switching).

    I seem to remember someone got an answer from Streamate that it's a marketing experiment. Makes me a bit angry because to me it makes the site look bad and downgrades what real hosts provide.


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    What is also strange is that everytime she puts the black screen on ( to switch recordings) someone takes her to private chat. It never fails..

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    I think SM might start caring if guys started demanding refunds.
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    don't ask me. everytime I've tried to look at her page (hear she's pretty popular) it says she's in private show. I've not seen her.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Decalyn View Post
    I think SM might start caring if guys started demanding refunds.
    You would think so but they have been running that loop for a really long time. Streamate has to be behind it. MadisonQT has 352 member comments, many of which are complaints!


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    Marketing experiment??? So SM admit with this they are behind all this and they're the one who are using this MadisonQT to rip off money from members. This is not an experiment, this is a cheat...if this were an 'experiment' it wouldn't take YEARS ONLINE only a few hours and will have a big screen that will said 'testing only, no real performer' like Livejasmin does for example when they're testing. So, SM don't let us to put recorded shows of our own self, but they did buy camdecoy software create this scam and they have the guts to said 'ohhh is just an experiment from us' sure...a experiment of few years, 24 hours online, and making lots of money with 2 phrases 'mmmm lets pvt bb' why they don't put this 'experiment' at 0.99 per minute??? why at 4.99??..

    Why SM needs to do this??? isn't enough money what they already have with the tons of girls there online??? isn't enough money what they have taking 75% of the earnings?? isn't enough money??? that they need to create girls bots to rip off more money??? Why they don't start to accept REAL girls more faster and stop putting so many stuff to people who wants to join the site to perform live, instead of creating this scam?

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    The thing is girls is none of these company's really give a shit anymore period... All they care about is the money with this slow economy. Just look at MFC they have strait hard core token shows in free chat with 2000 people watching some probably kids and teenagers.Also reading the rules no men aloud on MFC Girls have BJ shows all the time in free chat with the man not even registered. They just don't care....The same with SM i have reported countless girls and nothing is ever done.The people who own these sites are multi millionaires all they care about is their money that's it. And we can bitch and complain about it all we want but nothing will ever be done about it .

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    The reason being Cassie is because you and I and every girl is disposable and replaceable.. There always will be girls who sit around for hours without making money on these sites all over the world.. they don't really give a damn how great you are.. they will just get more girls.. who want to work. This is why I never complain about anything anymore to customer service on any site.. unless it's something minor.. like please reset my phone.. of course they will so i can make them more money.. One time.. I emailed streamate.. a few years ago and asked them if they could please make it so customers could not rate girls for 1 min shows.. they never responded and of course it still goes on.. I seem to recall there was no rating system when I first started... I don't like the rating system at all on any site IT makes me feel like i have to put up with alot of garbage or get rated badly.. Like I am at gun point..lol

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    and yet another one: BrookeZ I notice none of the recordings have sound.

    Honestly though I think although these are not good for the site as a whole, eventually the bigger spenders if they are even stupid enough to get tricked into buying a show, they are smart enough to realize it's a recording. There is only so much you can do with a recorded clip.

    We are selling interaction and the bigger spenders want personal shows tailored to what they ask for, not recorded clips with no sound.


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    The people putting this together with the recorded shows have a huge scam going. They spam alot of people with stories of needing money followed by a link to sm where the guys think they're helping these girls out. I saw on youtube someone making a comment that the Madison one was asking for his credit card number. Whoever is behind it talks to alot of these guys through email where they build a "relationship" with them just so they can con them out of their money.

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    This upsets me more than other girls breaking rules. I hate reading this because it pisses me off so much. Such BS! I read up on the cam program that allows you to do this. Hell you can have the recording play and sit on your laptop and just type responses or you can have generated ones. Well thats pretty f**in convenient. While I'm busting my ass some douchebag guy is sitting there on his ass making money doing nothing and taking our custies.

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    Someone should let the guys know that SM is doing this... it's ripping us AND them off. SM will lose money FAST as soon as the rumors begin to spread that they're doing this, and money talks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cam_Model_Jess View Post
    But "outing" people on SW... unless I fell sleep and CC's rules changed, we're not supposed to be outing people here....everyone already knows about her.
    I'd have to semantically argue that a recording of a model isn't really a model. (*shrugs*)

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    If she's running it herself, then I'd say it's the same as outing a model. And we can't really know for sure that she isn't doing it herself. But that's not really my place to decide. I'll let the mods decide that.

    I guess you're right... not everyone knows. I think I was being a little general there. There are posts online in a few places about her. There are lots of comments on her page that warn the guys not to pay her. I think my main point was that we don't really know who is running it. And I was trying to dispel a rumor that was started by someone who I don't exactly think is reputable. And then I got carried away....

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    Yes, but we can be almost sure that SM had received plenty and plenty of complains about this MadisonQT as a recorded video (not only on the girl reviews...I bet lots of those members also had complain with SM CS) now..why SM hasn't done anything with her??? or he??? and continue letting this account years after running there and been in pvt 98% of the time. Is very rarely that a guy decide to read reviews from others...so the other guys 'warning' is something that only minor category of guys are really doing, and that's why this 'chic' is always in pvt. But SM knows about her, because is almost sure like I said that plenty of ppl had complain on her...and the only logical reason why SM still let 'her' here, is because SM have to do something with it...or SM and 'her' are close friends or something, because if some of us do the same thing..I bet our account will be banned in 1 week or less, but this madisonQT account is doing this thing since several years and nothing happens to 'her' or 'he'.

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    I busted her out on SM today. I told her everyone knows whats shes doing lol and she logged off.

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    It's extremely obvious to those sitting in free chat. I watched her one day and the loop was only 5 minutes long. Also, even though the loop was started at a different place each time, it was funny to watch when she would take her shirt off and put it back on. I think someone wasn't paying attention.

    They approve comments about her being a recording. If it was SM doing it, I don't think they'd put up those comments. Why would they close her page if she's making them money though? We've all seen that SM doesn't care more about its image than its profit.

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    I like the idea of just tattling to "her" room whenever "she" is on. If you tell the whole room that "she" is just a recording, they'll likely get a lil miffed. And if "she" logs out because of it (likely to reset the room and boot everyone from it) it's at least costing "her" money.
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    Not to mention, its against the rules....SM is quick to call us out when we unknowingly violate a rule, but we're supposed to just turn the other cheek when THEY are breaking a rule...

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    Please don't hate me for saying this.. but when one focuses on others they forget about themselves.. WHAT ARE YOU DOING WITH YOUR LIFE?? and what concern is anything of anyone is to you?? Blinders on.. THIS IS YOUR LIFE! who cares what others are doing.. Again.. just food for thought.. focus on yourself.. forget the rest. you will get your REWARD or BIG PAYOFF by only worrying about yourself.. busy bodies never get anything done.. but aggravate others.

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    Except, Anon, that this woman is a bot. It's likely some fat 30-something basement dwelling nerd who thinks he's clever as shit.

    We're a community, like it or not. When someone does shit like this, it hurts everyone who's in the same category as her. This account is breaking the rules and taking patrons from US.

    It's also a blatant example of SM favoring the moneymakers. This accound has been breaking the rules since 2010, and yet it is still running.

    If one of us so much as takes too long stripping and a patron complains, we get a warning from SM to stop leading people on.


    If you don't see the issue with that, and how it hurts the community and our incomes, then perhaps you're better suited to working solo rather than joining community discussions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cam_Model_Jess View Post
    But "outing" people on SW... unless I fell sleep and CC's rules changed, we're not supposed to be outing people here. There are plenty of our forums where they do that, and people here regularly complain about those places. Everyone already knows about her. The guys even know. But they continue to spend on her. But I posted something a long time ago on here, before the rule about outing models, and I exposed someone who was outright lying to customers about her "pornstar" status and other things. I got a bunch of comments back saying "way to go, ruining her hustle." Unless we want to make very specific rules about who can out whom and under which circumstances (and who gets to decide all that)...

    If you look at the camdecoy site - the software that runs it, the models seem to have sold their clips to the software company ahd have given them the right to provide their clips to be used with it.
    Take a look at the software that was sold from that site. The sample models are included when you buy. Otherwise the software would be useless without the specific clips linked to the commands. It's a fairly complex system.

    Also, the models in question could not be running the software all the time. There would have to be someone working in shifts, unless she truly is a robot and can go without sleep for weeks at a time, lol. Some of those model clips run 24/7 with a short 15 minute break here and there. Seem to be manned in shifts.

    From the comments some of the guys are definitely deceived into thinking she is real. True, they have to be pretty stupid not to see it, but I really don't like the fact that it's going on.


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    I totally respect your opinion.. YOU HAVE NO IDEA THE SHIT I HAVE SEEN> IN THE 10 YRS ON CAM! THE COUNTLESS SCAMS.. THE FRAUDULENT ACTIVITY.. IT'S REALLY A LOST CAUSE.. i WAS MERELY POINTING THAT OUT.

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    Except, Anon, that this woman is a bot. It's likely some fat 30-something basement dwelling nerd who thinks he's clever as shit.

    We're a community, like it or not. When someone does shit like this, it hurts everyone who's in the same category as her. This account is breaking the rules and taking patrons from US.

    It's also a blatant example of SM favoring the moneymakers. This accound has been breaking the rules since 2010, and yet it is still running.

    If one of us so much as takes too long stripping and a patron complains, we get a warning from SM to stop leading people on.


    If you don't see the issue with that, and how it hurts the community and our incomes, then perhaps you're better suited to working solo rather than joining community discussions.

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    i think if this girl would be some ugly old foreign lady, no one would care....
    its just cause her look is for a hot young willing american female that people are so pissed off about it...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fridays View Post
    i think if this girl would be some ugly old foreign lady, no one would care....
    its just cause her look is for a hot young willing american female that people are so pissed off about it...
    So true!

    Personally I don't care. However what people should be bitching about is that shit percentage SM gives. 35%? and putting your vids up on tube sites for free. It doesn't piss me off because I think it's smart. If guys are paying for a recorded show then that's on them for being clueless. 5mins? and they're in and out? I wish I was smart enough to set up something like this and sit back and just get paid. Harassing the model isn't really productive when you could be spending time making money instead. If it's been 2 years then SM knows exactly what's going on and they don't care. So that goes to show you where their loyalty lies.

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