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    Quote Originally Posted by SophiaSylvan View Post
    Don't waste your time like I did filming Mesmerize or Executrix content anymore. Even solo. Compliance is riding those categories hard and even the use of the words in the video is causing denials. Why are the categories even still up if the subjects aren't allowed on the site??? I mean I guess I'm glad as I have some old content there still up, but I won't be filming any new content like this anymore. I wonder how long Taboo or Vampire will last.
    Agree. This is why it's dangerous to be too niched. You might be on top for a while but anything can happen that will wipe a category out. New rules, stricter interpretations, competition off site or just removal of the category without warning. Executrix seems to have significantly lower traffic than just a year ago. Probably because creators are forced to do content so lame it's ridiculous. Like why watch someone pretending to "end" you with an invisible weapon when you can go to CBT or BDSM categories and see real people get real injuries (if that's your thing) Or just go to Youtube and watch crime doc.
    Just recently I had a POV executrix/vore clip approved, only to be removed an hour later quoting the "no depiction of someone getting maimed or killed". I argued it doesn't show _anything_, it's OBVIOUS roleplay/fantasy with NOONE else there, and also, how on earth is it then possible to have those two categories at all? Clip got approved again lol. But yes, if things continue down this road we can say goodbye to any niche that uses "crime" or "violence" roleplay in a way that is not traditionally associated with sex/porn. And maybe those too. I've had several customers tell me they'd support my own site but I can't see how there are any reliable payment options anywhere that aren't relying on Visa/Mastercard. As far as we are told these are behind this skewed moralism - but probably there is a bigger picture too with more conservative politics and commercial interests (seeing how this is hitting small indie producers much more than the production companies)

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    Alyssa, the anti-porn groups have been coming HARD for us via political pressure, heavy rebranding of sex work as sex trafficking (really, groups like Exodus Cry paid a literal fortune for this, and it's been working), and coming for the money (the credit card companies) are what's been behind all these compliance changes. It doesn't help that many adult sites have been lax about documentation and following the law, hopefully now that most of them are rigorously doing so this is as far as things will go.


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    Just noticed some of my clips with "step-" in the titles (step-mom, step-sister etc) now has an extra "step-" added in the store. Like "Your Step-Step-Sister's Dream". Don't know how long that's been as in my admin clip list they are all titled correctly. They are all named the same in their form (with just one "step") and I don't want to edit as that might get the clip disapproved/removed. If you add a new clip with a family relation in the title without adding "step-" to it, will the system add it automatically or does it say you have to go back and change the title? It's not a big deal but it looks stupid

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlyssaJ View Post
    Just noticed some of my clips with "step-" in the titles (step-mom, step-sister etc) now has an extra "step-" added in the store. Like "Your Step-Step-Sister's Dream". Don't know how long that's been as in my admin clip list they are all titled correctly. They are all named the same in their form (with just one "step") and I don't want to edit as that might get the clip disapproved/removed. If you add a new clip with a family relation in the title without adding "step-" to it, will the system add it automatically or does it say you have to go back and change the title? It's not a big deal but it looks stupid
    I also just noticed this yesterday on all my older clips. I figured I just hadn't seen it before but maybe it's something new? Agreed, looks stupid.

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    AlyssaJ I agree with everything you say!

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlyssaJ View Post
    Just noticed some of my clips with "step-" in the titles (step-mom, step-sister etc) now has an extra "step-" added in the store. Like "Your Step-Step-Sister's Dream". Don't know how long that's been as in my admin clip list they are all titled correctly. They are all named the same in their form (with just one "step") and I don't want to edit as that might get the clip disapproved/removed. If you add a new clip with a family relation in the title without adding "step-" to it, will the system add it automatically or does it say you have to go back and change the title? It's not a big deal but it looks stupid
    I was laughing at this too and joking that in future for clips we will have things like step-step-step second adopted cousin or step aunt-in-law to get past the system


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    After clips4sale admin message about taking down some scam site, I started looking for this type of sites.
    So I found another two sites with my clips, and let the support know about that.
    One of the sites was actually a scam site, but the second one was the site that c4s use for bringing traffic to our stores.
    So here is the thing for girls that blocked their countries on c4s (I've done that since I don't want people from my country viewing my store, I know that there are VPN services know, but I hope not all men are the sharpest knife in the drawer, at least in my country haha I just feel a little bit safer blocking it)
    And here is bad news, this site that helps bring traffic to our stores, is visible for the country you blocked, which means they can see all your gifs and previews
    I wrote back to support if there's a way to block the country there too, and if not I want to be removed from there, as I am fine with less traffic and money just to feel safer. Now I am waiting for their response.
    If any of you girls are like me and wanna know about the site, write me a private message since I don't wanna post it here, not knowing who could read this forum besides us (but I also guess you could find it by googling your stage name while looking for pirated content)
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    Anyone else having longer than usual waits to get something approved? It's slowed down since about Memorial day but now got a clip sitting there for nearly 4 hours and still not approved.
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    Yeah definitely, I thought it was because it was an executrix clip, but then a sissy panty clip didn't get reviewed yet either. Seems like since early afternoon ET. The others I queued for the weekend earlier today have been approved at a reasonable pace.


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    Just as a heads up some of the new landing pages on C4S will show a auto generated preview video for your clip even though you have your clip set to ONLY display your animated GIF or just a preview picture and you have disabled the preview video.

    It will also show the auto generated preview video instead of the preview video you upload. This totally sucks because on some of them it will show the "money shots" for free.

    Kinda upset with this because now people can watch portions of your video for free and if you post heavily in the clothing fetish type categories this ruins your sales.

    I emailed them about this like 2 weeks ago and never heard back. Now pirate sites are linking to these pages allowing them to watch partial clips of your videos that you didn't approve of.

    If any producers want to check your site on these new landing pages PM me and I can provide some example links. The more of us that complain to C4S the quicker they will fix this "exploit".
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    Anyone else noticing a rapid escalation of clips being put in Pending status for compliance, or denied? I'm starting to feel like I have to avoid Taboo, Executrix, "Make me bi"/Gay Humiliation, Mesmerize, etc. categories altogether, and play it safe. It sucks because I found the edgy stuff the most fun to film. Hope this doesn't mean they are under intense scrutiny right now from the cc companies but I wouldn't be surprised whatsoever.


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    ^Yes, I noticed. I also noticed the taboo category moves a lot slower too. My clips are still being approved but it's taking longer and longer. I try not to complain on here, but I'm really losing my patience with Clips4sale. It kills my motivation not knowing if clips will be approved on time. And I feel like I'm holding back more in taboo clips. I used to have so much fun with it. Also, I still can't see my stats. It used to be very helpful to see where my traffic was coming from. Sales were good for me on the 4th of July holiday but then died down. It will be interesting to see how this month goes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SophiaSylvan View Post
    Don't waste your time like I did filming Mesmerize or Executrix content anymore. Even solo. Compliance is riding those categories hard and even the use of the words in the video is causing denials. Why are the categories even still up if the subjects aren't allowed on the site??? I mean I guess I'm glad as I have some old content there still up, but I won't be filming any new content like this anymore. I wonder how long Taboo or Vampire will last.
    Did they give a reason yours didn't get approved? I have several stores and one of mine is mostly mesmerize and all my clips still get approved, usually within an hour. At least once a week I try to post a mesmerize clip.

    I could pivot to something else but that's my favorite category to film and for me they sell more than my other content. I'm super careful in the descriptions though not to mention anything about hypno or trance.
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    Yep, same here. Some categories take way longer, i had some mindfuck audios, and it took 2 hours for them to disapprove them. They could exactly tell e at what time I said some forbidden words I'm not allowed to use. And my mesmerize audios are with echo and backgroundmusic. So i guess they have a very advanced program to find words in files. I'm happy I have NF for popper files and other Hypnofiles ......

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    Quote Originally Posted by SophiaSylvan View Post
    Anyone else noticing a rapid escalation of clips being put in Pending status for compliance, or denied? I'm starting to feel like I have to avoid Taboo, Executrix, "Make me bi"/Gay Humiliation, Mesmerize, etc. categories altogether, and play it safe. It sucks because I found the edgy stuff the most fun to film. Hope this doesn't mean they are under intense scrutiny right now from the cc companies but I wouldn't be surprised whatsoever.
    I love the edgy stuff so much more too, being evil is pretty much all of my clips. I am definitely holding back as it's all a greyzone now. Sometimes it sparks creativity, for example using common house hold tools as murder weapons lol. But there are only so much you can do when more and more things gets banned. And I really don't see how this makes porn any safer for anyone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Growlerpussy View Post
    Yep, same here. Some categories take way longer, i had some mindfuck audios, and it took 2 hours for them to disapprove them. They could exactly tell e at what time I said some forbidden words I'm not allowed to use. And my mesmerize audios are with echo and backgroundmusic. So i guess they have a very advanced program to find words in files. I'm happy I have NF for popper files and other Hypnofiles ......
    Interesting.

    Mind sharing what words they flagged? I'm trying to be super careful what I say because mesmerize / mindfuck content is my favorite.
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    ^Yes, I noticed. I also noticed the taboo category moves a lot slower too. My clips are still being approved but it's taking longer and longer. I try not to complain on here, but I'm really losing my patience with Clips4sale. It kills my motivation not knowing if clips will be approved on time. And I feel like I'm holding back more in taboo clips. I used to have so much fun with it. Also, I still can't see my stats. It used to be very helpful to see where my traffic was coming from. Sales were good for me on the 4th of July holiday but then died down. It will be interesting to see how this month goes.
    Well, I don't blame c4s. I'm sure they don't want to lose money on categories that are very popular going down the drain. They want to keep the site alive. My impression is the cc companies seem to be in active review of the site or they received some warning and that's why they're being super strict. I'm all of for the site staying up as we ride through these difficult political times. I'm blaming the anti-porn lobby and the weak ass coward credit card companies, and the Christian right.


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    Quote Originally Posted by SophiaSylvan View Post
    I had a clip that featured hypnosis and I said it once in the video, and they told me that word had to be removed from the audio. It seems like a shift to them paying attention to what is done or said in the clip too. I had a couple of solo executrix clips removed completely this month for featuring video content or audio content that was too edgy (I used a mannequin and wrapped it in a garbage bag for one, no go there, and for the other it was denied-a custom I talked about executing someone's mom and married his father). Then one where I offed someone by crushing their windpipe with my foot was accepted today.

    It seems to be a bit of a luck of the draw on who reviews the clips but also some categories are more heavily monitored and they're even closely reviewing the video and audio content: Mesmerize, Gay Humiliation, Taboo, MILF, (I had one that didn't mention age but younger/HS was implied that didn't get approved at first) and Executrix are all being closely monitored right now, FYI, unless it's just my store that's on the shitlist.
    That must be why mine aren't flagged.
    I've removed hypno and trance from all my scripts. It's a pain but I make so little on other types of clips that I'm willing to jump through Visa and MC's hoops for now.
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    Are the keywords used on your ADD CLIPS page now things that appear in the c4s advanced search? It says" These keywords (along with the description above) are checked when someone uses the Keyword Search in your store.". so I wasn't sure if it is worth adding a bunch of keywords if they aren't included in the sitewide search?

    I wish they would add a performer profile so I didn't have to click each of those boxes every time and add the performer since the performer is always just me

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    Quote Originally Posted by SophiaSylvan View Post
    Well, I don't blame c4s. I'm sure they don't want to lose money on categories that are very popular going down the drain. They want to keep the site alive. My impression is the cc companies seem to be in active review of the site or they received some warning and that's why they're being super strict. I'm all of for the site staying up as we ride through these difficult political times. I'm blaming the anti-porn lobby and the weak ass coward credit card companies, and the Christian right.
    Good point. Are you on ManyVids too? C4S is becoming more strict but my videos are still approved on ManyVids with zero issues. At first, I thought C4S was being overly paranoid. But you're right, there could be more going on behind the scenes.

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    That must be why mine aren't flagged.
    I've removed hypno and trance from all my scripts. It's a pain but I make so little on other types of clips that I'm willing to jump through Visa and MC's hoops for now.
    It seems that it isn't ok to use props for trance induction either. So I'm just going to talk mesmerizingly for now and walk them through it without defining it...absurd we can't even say the word therapist. Civvies really have no idea the kind of restrictions we are under, they're always amazed! LOL

    I never did too well with mesmerize clips, though they do seem to have staying power, and sell ok over time. The only thing they seem to want me to force them to do with hypnosis is to take penis and be babies!


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    Good point. Are you on ManyVids too? C4S is becoming more strict but my videos are still approved on ManyVids with zero issues. At first, I thought C4S was being overly paranoid. But you're right, there could be more going on behind the scenes.
    Yeah I use IWC and MV, for now, they're not being as strict, but there was a period IWC was giving me the same impression. The few clips that get denied on c4s so far are being accepted on MV. I wonder what different methods they're using. I suspect c4s is using a program but has humans reviewing certain categories now. I'm also noticing an uptick in inquiries for customs for taboo and executrix, probably because this content is becoming more scarce. I'm hesitant to accept anything too edgy without an exclusivity fee, since it's likely they won't be able to be posted.


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    Quote Originally Posted by SophiaSylvan View Post
    It seems that it isn't ok to use props for trance induction either. So I'm just going to talk mesmerizingly for now and walk them through it without defining it...absurd we can't even say the word therapist. Civvies really have no idea the kind of restrictions we are under, they're always amazed! LOL

    I never did too well with mesmerize clips, though they do seem to have staying power, and sell ok over time. The only thing they seem to want me to force them to do with hypnosis is to take penis and be babies!
    Oh wow, didn't realize therapist was banned.

    About half my clips have a swinging crystal though and they are still being approved.
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    Hi, sorry about our English.


    We have found a fake clipsite which has many clips from different C4S stores, we have reported it yesterday but we don't know if we did it well.


    To anyone here who want to check if clips from your store(s) have been uploaded on that fake clipsite you can to send us a private message and we will show to you a link but only if we are sure you have a store on C4S, sorry for the request but all who really has stores on C4S will know for obvious reasons we have to be careful when giving links to this kind of sites.


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    Nah, they don't actually have our clips. They 'have' one of mine that's never sold on any clip store. I asked Clips4Sale what the deal was and they said they're just copying our descriptions, GIFs, previews etc. off Clips4Sale to advertise the videos, then when customers checkout, they're either just taking the money and not giving any clips in return, or doing that AND stealing the customers' credit card info. Clips4Sale are on it, but don't worry about the piracy aspect, they don't actually have our clips.

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