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    Right, Miss Ju?! It isn't just duplicate orders, I haven't had many of those in months. What I have had a serious increase of is refunds due to fraud. I confirmed this with clips4sale support that it was fraudulent charges and this summer I've had $147 for July in fraudulent charges that were refunded and in June I believe or May it was over $200.


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    Quote Originally Posted by SophiaSylvan View Post
    Right, Miss Ju?! It isn't just duplicate orders, I haven't had many of those in months. What I have had a serious increase of is refunds due to fraud. I confirmed this with clips4sale support that it was fraudulent charges and this summer I've had $147 for July in fraudulent charges that were refunded and in June I believe or May it was over $200.
    How big is the watermark on your videos?
    Is it easily cut off?

    I make mine big & a bit where my body is behind it. Only one guy has complained on my site in almost 3 years. Most thieves on porn are lazy. There are programs to remove it, but a bit more of a hassle & rendering times. Now, if all they have to do is bring in the sides of he video more to hide it & make you more of the focus then render. It's no big deal.

    Most people put small off to the side watermarks.. Meanwhile major brands like LV, Nike, Michael Kors, Chanel put their logo & brand all over their products.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam38g View Post
    How big is the watermark on your videos?
    Is it easily cut off?

    I make mine big & a bit where my body is behind it. Only one guy has complained on my site in almost 3 years. Most thieves on porn are lazy. There are programs to remove it, but a bit more of a hassle & rendering times. Now, if all they have to do is bring in the sides of he video more to hide it & make you more of the focus then render. It's no big deal.

    Most people put small off to the side watermarks.. Meanwhile major brands like LV, Nike, Michael Kors, Chanel put their logo & brand all over their products.
    My trick was to put it in various spots and change it up every few minutes (randomly) during the video. There's no way they could crop it without a major PITA or jarring the video all over the place - at best they could get rid of my TM for just a few minutes before it popped up somewhere else.

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    Is there a fee for refunds/chargebacks?

    How long can people issue a chargeback or get a refund? I guess what I'm saying is, what if a few months go by and then you get a ton of chargebacks and you don't have money in your bank account to handle it - you're fucked with bank fees, etc. Is there a period of time where it is no longer a concern? (A few months, for example?)

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    Quote Originally Posted by KatyBoleyn View Post
    My trick was to put it in various spots and change it up every few minutes (randomly) during the video. There's no way they could crop it without a major PITA or jarring the video all over the place - at best they could get rid of my TM for just a few minutes before it popped up somewhere else.
    thats an ace idea thanks for sharing!

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    Quote Originally Posted by PinkPopcorn View Post
    Is there a fee for refunds/chargebacks?

    How long can people issue a chargeback or get a refund? I guess what I'm saying is, what if a few months go by and then you get a ton of chargebacks and you don't have money in your bank account to handle it - you're fucked with bank fees, etc. Is there a period of time where it is no longer a concern? (A few months, for example?)
    To the clip producers? On C4S, no. You are only deducted the amount (your cut) that you received for the clip/clips/order.

    I thought it was 6 months, but I could be wrong. I just did a Google search for this and the answer I found was 120 days from the date of the transaction.

    Also wanted to add, C4S doesn't take money out of your bank account. They deduct it from your payout. I don't know what happens if your chargebacks exceed your overall monthly payout.

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    I was once deducted more than I received for the clip...it wasn't much but it was still more.


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    Has anyone else (outside the US) had to change their payment option from cheque to something else?

    I just changed my address and whilst I was doing it support said they no longer send international cheques anymore, I don't think I'd been emailed about it or anything so I'm just wondering if anyone else knows about this?

    Arguably this might be old news that I somehow missed but I was only $1 from payout so that's a tad annoying as it was the option where I got to keep the most money :p

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    Quote Originally Posted by KinkyKarlin View Post
    Has anyone else (outside the US) had to change their payment option from cheque to something else?

    I just changed my address and whilst I was doing it support said they no longer send international cheques anymore, I don't think I'd been emailed about it or anything so I'm just wondering if anyone else knows about this?

    Arguably this might be old news that I somehow missed but I was only $1 from payout so that's a tad annoying as it was the option where I got to keep the most money :p
    That's news to me! I receive cheques and hope I will still be getting one this month. We can use First Choice instead but that's more expensive than the cheque option but may be cheaper than C4S direct transfer fee.


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    Quote Originally Posted by PinkPopcorn View Post
    Is there a fee for refunds/chargebacks?

    How long can people issue a chargeback or get a refund? I guess what I'm saying is, what if a few months go by and then you get a ton of chargebacks and you don't have money in your bank account to handle it - you're fucked with bank fees, etc. Is there a period of time where it is no longer a concern? (A few months, for example?)
    Those terms are set by the credit or banking industry. The longer you take to dispute a charge the harder it is to get the money back. Except for porn, they are 99% likely to get their money back. It's 6 months in general,but have heard up to a year.



    There have been a few bad apples in this biz who did card banging like crazy. Guys sign up to a site for say $29.99 then their cards charged 3 to 4 times over. Some of those guys are just now being arrested. Even though they did this years ago but the sites were closed down due to losing their payment processor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam38g View Post
    There have been a few bad apples in this biz who did card banging like crazy. Guys sign up to a site for say $29.99 then their cards charged 3 to 4 times over. Some of those guys are just now being arrested. Even though they did this years ago but the sites were closed down due to losing their payment processor.
    Yup. And stuff like that is what gives the rest of the adult webmasters or the adult industry in general, a bad rep. Another trick people used to do was not give a non-recurring option, thus forcing the customer to cancel and *hoping* they would forget. But then, customers are known to do their fair share of shady stuff too..... (password trading, fraud, site-rips, piracy, etc).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tea4Me View Post
    To the clip producers? On C4S, no. You are only deducted the amount (your cut) that you received for the clip/clips/order.

    I thought it was 6 months, but I could be wrong. I just did a Google search for this and the answer I found was 120 days from the date of the transaction.

    Also wanted to add, C4S doesn't take money out of your bank account. They deduct it from your payout. I don't know what happens if your chargebacks exceed your overall monthly payout.

    It should be 6 months but a few years ago, I had a chargeback for an order that was 2 years old. I asked support about the 6 months thing that I had read about - they said the bottom line is, they have to honor all chargebacks. Even for orders 2 years back.

    The good thing is, in reality, it's extremely rare to get a chargeback for an order that was placed more than a few months ago, let alone years.

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    Just wanted to see if you ladies received your payment/check - usually i get it early but still no check to be found
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    fuck off.JPG

    Did anyone else get this email?



    You can buy your store back at anytime for just 10% more than what you paid for it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by justsometwat View Post
    fuck off.JPG

    Did anyone else get this email?



    I got one and immediately deleted it.

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    I think it is a pretty scummy thing. I bet it targets people that need money fast but probably can't buy it back. They won't be able to update the store with YOUR content though. So what happens if you sell them your store and they upload someone else's content to it and you buy it back? What do they do with other content? Why would they buy it to never update it? It wouldn't make any money just sitting there.

    What happens if you sell your store and they change the log in and you go to C4S and tell them someone got into your account? It would have to be against some part of their TOS to take over a store, you'd think?

    I also love how their website has NOTHING on it about their 'studios' or anything. Just a form to fill in to apply to join their studio. It REEKS of people trying to take advantage of desperate people.

    Never worked in the industry? Even better reason to join our team. We will register you an account under one of the top webcam sites, instruct you on how to get started and provide you with our daily pay service. No experience is necessary as our team of professionals will guide you from to start to finish.
    Want to receive a fast payment by tipping?

    1. Tip us here.
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    All of that screams scummy/scammy.


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    I got it and immediately reported it to Clips4Sale support who immediately reported it to management. The website asks for your store username and password which is obviously super scammy and is against clips4sale rules. Hopefully they'll take care of it before any less savvy clip-makers get scammed.

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    I swear I recognise the name as a group from AW that the dailypay studio I'm with on there warned us about

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    I'm not planning on selling my store. But how much they will pay you? LOL lets say a top studio. How do they calculate the value? So shaddy and scammy they didnt even think it true.

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    Quote Originally Posted by starburst View Post
    Just wanted to see if you ladies received your payment/check - usually i get it early but still no check to be found
    I haven't got my check yet. Sometimes it doesn't get here till the 10th. I haven't seen a check come before the 8th in almost a year and half. I miss getting them on the 4th, or 5th. I don't think they print and mail checks on the 1st anymore like they used to. I think they don't mail them till the 6th or 7th most months. I'm not sure what changed, i'm just guessing. Not sure if this helps!

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    Quote Originally Posted by KinkyKarlin View Post
    Has anyone else (outside the US) had to change their payment option from cheque to something else?

    I just changed my address and whilst I was doing it support said they no longer send international cheques anymore, I don't think I'd been emailed about it or anything so I'm just wondering if anyone else knows about this?

    Arguably this might be old news that I somehow missed but I was only $1 from payout so that's a tad annoying as it was the option where I got to keep the most money :p
    I got my cheque today. Maybe they're just stopping it for new requests/addresses...


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