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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinna (2pee4you) View Post
    I have been on c4s since 2011, which I guess counts as a long time, although others have certainly been on there longer. There have been changes in those years, functionality, interface, design, speed, stats etc. but I have not seen a new feature or any promised feature. It is correct that Neil listens and often says he puts it on a list with the programmers, but I have not seen or heard updates about most of the things he wanted to implement (like camming). It seems to me that they are either working on a big c4s revamp while keeping the old site as functional as possible (but I don't think so) or they are working on the change of the studio admin as #1 priority since several months and are not rolling out anything else. Like a custom ordering option (which I don't think is a priority tbh).
    I remember when he tried the camming thing on there & it didn't take off.

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    I didn't know camming ever went live on the site.


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    Quoting Neil from this interview: http://blog.clips4sale.com/b/big-int...lips4sale-com/

    "C4S will grow over the next few years to include cams, in room viewing, memberships, customs, user accounts, mobile and streaming. Also better searching capabilities for users. I feel that searching to find what you want is at the top of the list and we are already working on several of these things and when people see we have a one stop shop for everything they need then there will be no reason to waste time with others."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tea4Me View Post
    Quoting Neil from this interview: http://blog.clips4sale.com/b/big-int...lips4sale-com/

    "C4S will grow over the next few years to include cams, in room viewing, memberships, customs, user accounts, mobile and streaming. Also better searching capabilities for users. I feel that searching to find what you want is at the top of the list and we are already working on several of these things and when people see we have a one stop shop for everything they need then there will be no reason to waste time with others."
    I actually wish they would get to work on an app for streaming. If they had an app for Roku with fully functioning search of the entire website where people could buy our clips and instead of downloading them they could instead stream them whenever they wanted, I feel that impulse buying would heavily increase and we'd all be making more money.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tea4Me View Post
    Quoting Neil from this interview: http://blog.clips4sale.com/b/big-int...lips4sale-com/

    "C4S will grow over the next few years to include cams, in room viewing, memberships, customs, user accounts, mobile and streaming. Also better searching capabilities for users. I feel that searching to find what you want is at the top of the list and we are already working on several of these things and when people see we have a one stop shop for everything they need then there will be no reason to waste time with others."
    What is the date this blog was published? Couldn't find it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam38g View Post
    I'm sure all of you watermark your vids. If a guy wants a custom he will seek you out & make it happen one way or another.
    Yes, definitely. This has happened to me many times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam38g View Post
    What is the date this blog was published? Couldn't find it.
    No idea, I don't think there are dates on any of the blog posts on the C4S blog.

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    If my memory is correct about 10 years or more ago they tried to add camming to C4S, I didn't use it. I was with Imlive at the time. It really didn't take off & in about a year or so the option was taken down.

    I maybe wrong, but don't think it will convert well for c4s. Kink had kinklive & they switched over to being a white label to a big box company. Same thing for Vividlive, Playboylive, PlumperPass, AEBN & a few I can't remember. They all switched over to being white labels for big box cam sites. History isn't on their sides in that venue.

    More likely to have more success with the customs than the camming side of the industry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam38g View Post
    If my memory is correct about 10 years or more ago they tried to add camming to C4S, I didn't use it. I was with Imlive at the time. It really didn't take off & in about a year or so the option was taken down.

    I maybe wrong, but don't think it will convert well for c4s. Kink had kinklive & they switched over to being a white label to a big box company. Same thing for Vividlive, Playboylive, PlumperPass, AEBN & a few I can't remember. They all switched over to being white labels for big box cam sites. History isn't on their sides in that venue.

    More likely to have more success with the customs than the camming side of the industry.
    I agree with your original assessment of C4S. They are the best at what they do---selling clips! They have the traffic, the history and the buyers. Other sites might have more bells and whistles but time and time again I've heard 'but you have to bring your own customers'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SFHS View Post
    I actually wish they would get to work on an app for streaming. If they had an app for Roku with fully functioning search of the entire website where people could buy our clips and instead of downloading them they could instead stream them whenever they wanted, I feel that impulse buying would heavily increase and we'd all be making more money.
    They do have streaming. For those who have c4slive membership sites enabled any clip a studio owner adds can be streamed. I have them enabled on almost all my stores. Rarely ever do I have a sale even though they pay 10x the price to buy instead of stream. My customers want downloads.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam38g View Post
    If my memory is correct about 10 years or more ago they tried to add camming to C4S, I didn't use it. I was with Imlive at the time. It really didn't take off & in about a year or so the option was taken down.

    I maybe wrong, but don't think it will convert well for c4s. Kink had kinklive & they switched over to being a white label to a big box company. Same thing for Vividlive, Playboylive, PlumperPass, AEBN & a few I can't remember. They all switched over to being white labels for big box cam sites. History isn't on their sides in that venue.

    More likely to have more success with the customs than the camming side of the industry.
    You remember correctly!

    I was so excited about it and spent a lot of hours trying to get it going but it was very very dead and stayed dead. Seems my video customers mainly prefer vids with little to no interaction and my live session customers want to see me live and interact. Was an interesting experiment though.

    I do get customs though, would enjoy it if they offered an easy way for customers to order - now I have to send them offsite and it is inconvenient for both customers and for me.



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    Quote Originally Posted by laurielegs View Post
    They do have streaming. For those who have c4slive membership sites enabled any clip a studio owner adds can be streamed. I have them enabled on almost all my stores. Rarely ever do I have a sale even though they pay 10x the price to buy instead of stream. My customers want downloads.
    You don't understand what I'm saying they should do because what you just described is far from what I said they should do. I don't want a membership site. I want an C4S app on something like Roku. Then customers can browse the site and buy clips right from the app and can stream them from the app. Kinda of like how people buy movies and watch them from Itunes using Apple TV. This is the future and C4S needs to be one step ahead of the game because if they don't do it then another clip site will and benefit greatly from it. C4S doesn't want to be Blockbuster Video while another clip site ends up being Netflix.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SFHS View Post
    You don't understand what I'm saying they should do because what you just described is far from what I said they should do. I don't want a membership site. I want an C4S app on something like Roku. Then customers can browse the site and buy clips right from the app and can stream them from the app. Kinda of like how people buy movies and watch them from Itunes using Apple TV. This is the future and C4S needs to be one step ahead of the game because if they don't do it then another clip site will and benefit greatly from it. C4S doesn't want to be Blockbuster Video while another clip site ends up being Netflix.
    I know I asked this once before on this thread and no one had an answer.... Customers can't download (save) clips to their smartphones, can they? I've never tried to buy/download a clip myself on my phone, as an experiment, so I really don't know. I know some people offer mobile versions of their clips but I thought that still meant a customer had to download them on a computer, and then upload them to their phone.

    So with the streaming, are you thinking the customer would have one time access to the clip and could view it for a limited amount of time? Or something else?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tea4Me View Post
    I know I asked this once before on this thread and no one had an answer.... Customers can't download (save) clips to their smartphones, can they? I've never tried to buy/download a clip myself on my phone, as an experiment, so I really don't know. I know some people offer mobile versions of their clips but I thought that still meant a customer had to download them on a computer, and then upload them to their phone.

    So with the streaming, are you thinking the customer would have one time access to the clip and could view it for a limited amount of time? Or something else?
    They would own the clip and be able to stream it anytime they wanted through the C4S app.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tea4Me View Post
    I know I asked this once before on this thread and no one had an answer.... Customers can't download (save) clips to their smartphones, can they? I've never tried to buy/download a clip myself on my phone, as an experiment, so I really don't know. I know some people offer mobile versions of their clips but I thought that still meant a customer had to download them on a computer, and then upload them to their phone.
    Yes they can download to their phone.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Classy_Katy View Post
    Yes they can download to their phone.
    Okay, sorry, but a dumb question.....where/how are they stored?? I've got an iPhone and I've never tried to download a file using it before and I wouldn't even know where it would be stored. Apps, songs, emails and ebooks, yes. But how do they download on their phones....? (Off to Google this because I seriously didn't think this was possible....)

    UPDATE: Okay, from what I've gathered....this might just be an iPhone users problem and not Android users. Wow, I had always wondered about this....

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    Quote Originally Posted by SFHS View Post
    You don't understand what I'm saying they should do because what you just described is far from what I said they should do. I don't want a membership site. I want an C4S app on something like Roku. Then customers can browse the site and buy clips right from the app and can stream them from the app. Kinda of like how people buy movies and watch them from Itunes using Apple TV. This is the future and C4S needs to be one step ahead of the game because if they don't do it then another clip site will and benefit greatly from it. C4S doesn't want to be Blockbuster Video while another clip site ends up being Netflix.
    Yes you can buy the whole membership or you can buy per clip. The streaming is a part of my membership site but you don't have to pay the whole fee - just buy and steam one clip if they like and they get to stream that one single clip forever.

    Go here http://www.c4slive.com and click HD Streams on a store that has it enabled and you can see how it works. Not a lot of stores have it enabled. I've sold memberships (rarely) but only one clip on HD streaming has sold in several years.

    No app but my streams work on my phone from the website fine.



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    Quote Originally Posted by laurielegs View Post
    Yes you can buy the whole membership or you can buy per clip. The streaming is a part of my membership site but you don't have to pay the whole fee - just buy and steam one clip if they like and they get to stream that one single clip forever.

    Go here http://www.c4slive.com and click HD Streams on a store that has it enabled and you can see how it works. Not a lot of stores have it enabled. I've sold memberships (rarely) but only one clip on HD streaming has sold in several years.

    No app but my streams work on my phone from the website fine.
    Again you don't seem to understand what I'm saying. You're so hung up on the membership that everything I'm saying seems to be going right over your head. Most people don't use the membership aspect of their stores because one guy can buy a membership for a month, download everything, and then post it to torrent sites. Plus the membership still isn't what I'm explaining. I'm talking about individual clip sales but instead of downloading them you can stream them on your TV using an app on a streaming box like Roku and they can browse C4S and buy clips right from the app. People can still choose to buy them from the website and download them but it gives the customer choice of how they want our content.

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    In laurielegs defense,
    A customer has the ability to stream said individual clip whether or not they have a membership. It's 2017 and any decently literate person that knows how to stream can easily set it up to their sweet 4k tv.

    I can understand your idea of maybe adding a C4S app to a streaming service like roku - a way for a customer to access clips directly from a tv. From a business perspective - it would be a risky move for C4S to initiate that kind of deal with Roku. It would cost the company a lot for something that isn't garaunteed to increase exposure or sales. Not to mention, I feel like people wouldnt necessarily turn to Roku first for porn. The same can be said for kodi and hulu. The server can be quite funky at times, lag up, etc.

    Again - if a person really wanted to stream a clip, all it takes is a simple cable or Chromecast.
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    In laurielegs defense,
    A customer has the ability to stream said individual clip whether or not they have a membership. It's 2017 and any decently literate person that knows how to stream can easily set it up to their sweet 4k tv.

    I can understand your idea of maybe adding a C4S app to a streaming service like roku - a way for a customer to access clips directly from a tv. From a business perspective - it would be a risky move for C4S to initiate that kind of deal with Roku. It would cost the company a lot for something that isn't garaunteed to increase exposure or sales. Not to mention, I feel like people wouldnt necessarily turn to Roku first for porn. The same can be said for kodi and hulu. The server can be quite funky at times, lag up, etc.

    Again - if a person really wanted to stream a clip, all it takes is a simple cable or Chromecast.
    You'd be surprised how many people don't know how to stream from their computer to their TV. This just makes it simple for them. You also don't have to make a deal with Roku. Anyone can have their own Roku channel. Will Roku advertise it? No, they won't. But C4S can advertise their Roku app on their website and that's all they need.

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    Do you have any idea how many servers C4S would need to get all of that data on there?
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    I can see it being a plausible idea - but it probably wouldn't be worth the hassle on C4S's end.
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    Quote Originally Posted by starburst View Post
    Do you have any idea how many servers C4S would need to get all of that data on there?
    Our data is already on their servers. There is little difference between someone downloading our content as opposed to streaming it. You have to remember technology moves fast. Every year less people buy actual computers. A lot of people are fine with tablets or smart phones. We makes most of our money from people with computers (desktops and laptops) buying our content and then downloading it. The number of people owning these computers is decreasing. It might not be affecting our sales now but it could in another 5 to 10 years. That's why you have to think ahead.

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    You are 100% in the uprise of additional technology being used to satisfy porn usage. And yes - you are also right in saying people are buying less computers. Computers have evolved and have become much more powerful then they used to be - But that isn't to say a 2002 tower computer still isn't running and going.

    Computer sales are declining because people don't have the need to upgrade them much anymore. It's 2017. Since we have more experience and information about PC's, it's only fair that eventually they would become powerful enough to withstand years of use. People go crazy over new phone releases and new tablet releases because that technology is still on a *much slowed down* rise. Plus - I feel it's much easier to break a phone over breaking a computer. Does that mean that people are really using less of their PC? Idk.

    Regardless - I think you're looking more for C4S to increase their exposure to stay relevant in the industry. Yes - Offering streaming services would be a nifty feature for customers, but is it truly necessary?

    "It might not be affecting our sales now but it could in another 5 to 10 years. That's why you have to think ahead."

    Are you sure that our future relies on streaming services like Roku and not technology like chromecast?
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    Anyone can download and watch a video on their phone or tablet already.
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