Awww I cant watch it for some reason. Keeps skipping and it doesnt pre-loadbummer!

Awww I cant watch it for some reason. Keeps skipping and it doesnt pre-loadbummer!







This is the VERY reason why I don't like to see our industry exploited on these cheesy talk shows and news programs. I feel exactly the same as what your quote states. Like we are all victims of the horrible and evil adult industry. If a girl went on a talk show and said she enjoyed it, she would be bashed for it and the first thing they would has is if she has been sexually abused. Like our minds and feelings have to be analyzed because there is no way a woman in her right mind would choose this profession.![]()
So the couple they portrayed the most negatively never even tried to make money from their camming...
That speaks volumes I guess but at the same time I was like how are they even relevant to the other two subjects?




last time my family was here visiting me I painted my mom and sisters' nails and said how much I love painting my nails. My mom was like "why don't you go to school for that?" Yes mother. Somehow painting nails in a salon where I will most likely be making peanuts for working my ASS off for someone else is less degrading than being a stripper.
I have made more in the last four months than most people make in a year.



the actual camming episode is on! lisa ling our america on the OWN network. dnt worry about that small segment on dr phil just watch the full show that particular episode is about to play now on the own network.. im in the central area an on my channel its 220
still here.... just in another chapter..




will have to check now



I wonder how often Dr. Phil browses the sites to jerk off.)
I caught one part of the Dr. Phil episode on Youtube. And he was bitching a poor girl out telling her that she will never stop her man from watching porn and basically that she can get over it.That the man couldn't help it because he spent hours a day watching porn. That it was okay for him to do it because he was under stress.
He was sure to defend that part, but the performers are degraded worthless shit.



also if you have xfinity/comcast u usually can go to the website and watch the full episodes assuming u have that channel in your subscription
still here.... just in another chapter..





cuz i am a retar I just watched the Lisa Lang thing. The older lady is a cam MILF and loving it! I want to shoot content with her! She is amazing and has a great attitude. I see nothing wrong with that.
I felt bad for the bigger couple. Poor things! But on the bright side she is dealing with her childhood trauma.
I think they tried to make everyone look sad, but if you really think about it everyone seems to be doing well except the bigger couple dealing with the childhood trauma, but I don't think that should be blamed on camming. That should be blamed on the bad people who did that to her.
I don't think the amounts of money they were talking about earning were crazy enough amount to attract much attention.
The young couple is making 1000 a week. 1000 a week isn't that much for 2 people to earn a week. That's only 24,000 a year each before taxes.
The bigger couple never even said anything about money.
The fabulous older lady was making 600 a week from streammate and some more from her website, pic, etc totalling 3000 a month or 692 a week, or 36,000 a year before taxes.
None of that is crazy money. Maybe I'm jaded. Don't get me wrong, it's good money, but a lot of people make that money doing other things.
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Mainstream media will always portray the sex industry as dark, evil, and seedy because mainstream media is owned mainly by Disney and General Electric ... aka haughty religious sects.
Another thing I hate about media and sex: anywhere from 150-250k children are molested each year- some are lawyers, doctors, counselors, and some are strippers. Not every person in the sex industry has been molested.. just a way of them saying 'if you enjoy sex outside of missionary, there is something WRONG with you'. I used to kill frogs and turtles- but I'm not a serial killer.
To the mainstream media, and mainstream media believers, sex workers will never be in this line of work because it's fun or empowering. Of course, that's because it can't be. Smart, funny, non-abused women hate sex.![]()
I felt so bad for the older woman that said she had a bad experience in the mainstream porn industry. I think amateur porn is much more admirable and safer than working in porn valley/mainstream porn.
"When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro."Hunter S. Thompson




Exotic dancing is like any other job.If you work in an office, you wear dress shoes and a suit.If you work in a restaraunt, you wear skid resistant shoes and a uniform.If you work in a strip club, you wear 7" stilettos and lycra g-strings.




But if you think about it if they take home $1,000 a week that means they are making the site $3,000
So the site, SM in this case, is making in the ball park of $156,000/yr just from that one account vs their $52,000...do you really think that's fair?
Whenever I work SM and see my account hit $350 I think to myself "wow I brought in $1,000 so far and all I am seeing is this?".
Further more from what I understand Streamate is not actually in the US, they are apparently in some tax haven, Cyprus I think.
Talk about screwing the little guy!




Fuck that noise. That is why I do not cam.
Exotic dancing is like any other job.If you work in an office, you wear dress shoes and a suit.If you work in a restaraunt, you wear skid resistant shoes and a uniform.If you work in a strip club, you wear 7" stilettos and lycra g-strings.



"When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro."Hunter S. Thompson



Ciara was recently in Hustler, runs her own site and shoots content (like pays people) - I think she was only quoting her SM income. Uh you saw their house, right? Their pictures with friends? SM def isn't their only source of $.
I love sex workers but often how we (like as a community) talk about money is often overly focused on being rich, not wealth. For ex this is a joke but satire has some reality - http://twitter.com/#!/pornstarproble...86414451494912
The documentary didnt paint amateur porn as a millionaire's paradise. It is just what you value.
Their values seem to be to spend as much time as possible with their daughter (done), work together as a couple (done), save up to go to school to do something else since they felt limited pre-camming (presumably done or being worked towards). Thumbing your nose at their takehome is harsh- they're happy. Who cares.
Sometimes I wish my value system and standard of living were different, I think Id be a happier less stressed person. But they aren't - so I have to work more, earn more and be focused on earning more. But I cant look down at people who are happy with what life they've built with their (self-declared) limited resources. I dont know many happy people and they seem content, so meh.
That being said, my offer to pay someone for a Dr Phil porn scandal still stands.



I agree, 52k/yr for a household of 3 is definitely not a bad income.. at all. Better than working 40 hrs @ minimum wage... which is not even 15k a year (and never missing a day of work!). Been there.. hated it.
Even if I only made 15k a year.. I'd still be happier working at home vs. getting up and actually going to a job. Either way, we will always be working for *someone* and they will always get paid more for our work than we do. I mean, if you think about it, you could work at McDonald's and make 1000 hamburgers a day. 1000 hamburgers = $1000 for McDonalds.. but you still get paid the shitty 7.50/hr.
I've always enjoyed commission based work more than working for Joe Schmoe Pizza Parlor Owner. So long as you put the effort into making the money.. the money will be made, and the earning potential is limitless.
Another great thing about camming is that you aren't dependent upon the area you live in for work. If I lived in Detroit, MI and I was making 52k a year - I could probably live like a Queen beings that the unemployment rate is the highest in the country at the moment. So, where you live can play a huge factor on how wealthy you can consider yourself to be.
I think upper middle-class is considered earning over 63k/yr for 2 persons.. so at 52k a year.. they are doing quite well.![]()
"When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro."Hunter S. Thompson
My bad I can't count! And that wasn't even hard math! Shame on me! I shouldn't stay up so late anymore. hehe But for 2 people that's still not that much. They are not getting rich by any means.
However, it is a big step up from where they were before. I hope they get the money together for school. He will make a wonderful electrician I think they are a very sweet couple who are just trying to make it.
All in all I liked the show. It could do without the sad undertone, but I do think it does reflect reality for these particular people. Bear in mind that there are tons and tons of people camming and the experience is not going to be the same for everyone.









Was the thing on dr phil just a short exert from the full lisa ling program? I already watched the lisa ling one last week but wanted to be sure i'm not missing anything?

Not to mention states like Maryland, where the wealth/cost of living is the highest in the country, but has some of the worst poverty in the country. $65k a year between 2 people is almost considered trailer trash here. Middle class here is usually considered to be $40-50k per person. At that salary a couple MIGHT be able to buy a house here.
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