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    Dizzy Equipment requirements for HD streaming on Streamate?

    Can anyone help me? Ive been waiting for an answer from Streamate for over a week, and no answer. I want to buy a great desktop ASAP.

    Can anyone answer what is required besides a Dual core processor?
    (how much RAM, reccomended PC brands, ect)

    Will I need an external video capture card?
    If so, is Dazzle ok, or should I go with Osprey?

    Any camcorder recomendations are also very welcome.

    thanks ladies!
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    Default Re: Equipment requirements for HD streaming on Streamate?

    To use the encoder, you basically need two things. A computer with at LEAST a dual core processor (if you can afford more, go for it) and a fast enough upload speed. That's it.

    Your RAM capacity doesn't really affect your ability to run the encoder - obviously if you have very little memory and it is full, then you can't download the programme, and I know that over-extending your computer and filling the memory will slow it down. So more is better, but what I do is have an external drive to try and keep the amount on my actual computer as low as possible.

    You do not need an external video card - why would you? As long as you have a decent webcam, you are fine.

    As for camcorders - I don't use one, but if you mean webcam (seeing as the post is about getting set up) I think that pretty much everyone uses logitech.

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    Default Re: Equipment requirements for HD streaming on Streamate?

    If you want to be a bit 'ahead of the curve' on HD video, here are some minimum specs to shoot for given webcam host site support for HD camera resolutions of 1080p at 30 frames per second already here, and 1280 at 60 frames per second is coming fast

    - 4gb computer memory but 8gb+ is better

    - 2.4 ghz dual core processor but quad core processor is better ( it's all about the cores for multiple tasks like video capture plus encoding plus streaming )

    - USB 3.0 ports

    I actually just bought a new desktop computer that meets all of these minimums ... ... although my primary motivation was gaming not camming.


    From my off the cuff discussions with a couple of serious 'players', at present the hardware side of HD webcam is at a crossroads. The additional speed available with USB 3.0 ports makes possible the sending of full unencoded HD video from the camera to the computer ... with the computer itself then being able to encode that video. There are a handful of USB 3.0 compatible cameras available right now, but with MANY more to show up over the course of the next few months.

    On the flip side, standard USB 2.0 ports are too slow to allow the sending of full unencoded HD video ... meaning that USB 2.0 cameras must also include dedicated hardware to perform video encoding right inside the camera. This limits their flexibility / compatibility at the very least, and also prevents future upgrades. This is also the arguable reason that Logitech currently has a de-facto 'lock' on compatibility with most current webcam host video streaming software.

    The 'old' solution to the USB 2.0 speed problem was to use a dedicated video encoder/capture card like the Osprey in conjunction with a stand-alone analog HD camera. But here you're talking about several hundred dollars worth of additional investment.

    My personal recommendation is to skip the dedicated video encoder/capture card and stand alone analog HD camera option, to go with a relatively low cost HD USB 2.0 camera like or if need be for the next several months, and then to jump on the newest and best USB 3.0 camera. Or if you're 'brave' check out the USB 3.0 cameras already available ...



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    Default Re: Equipment requirements for HD streaming on Streamate?

    You will only need the dazzle or a similar converter (I use a startech and it is much cheaper) if you go with the Sony Evi D100 or similar analog conferencing camera. I personally like this option as it offers a remote to zoom/pan/tilt. Check out some of the popular SM models, many of them are using this.



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    Default Re: Equipment requirements for HD streaming on Streamate?

    ^^^ that's the 'old' technology solution, and it undoubtedly works fantastic ... but at a price. For example, the cost of the Sony D100 camera alone is higher than the entire new desktop computer will be. Of course, if the remote pan / zoom / tilt capability is resulting in increased webcam 'sales' ... this may very well be a worthwhile investment anyhow.

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    Default Re: Equipment requirements for HD streaming on Streamate?

    This info should be merged in with the SM thread because let's face it, SM's FAQ's and info on the encoder is slim (as if we're all pc iliterate) to none. I wanna say thanks to the ladies that posted the good info. Also I want to add a little.

    Your processor should AT least be dual core BUT you can run the encoder without it. I've done with 1.6 GHz AMD Athalon. You WILL lag and have to make up for it so it's highly recommended that you don't even mess around and find something with a dual. Period. Though I have to say (from experience) that the encoder with work with less but your going to lose frames. I recently swapped laptops with my guy and he has a simple (and old) Intel Duo Core. It's a low end (GHz wise) dual. You can get em dirt cheap and they get the job done. I personally wouldn't even get an external VCC IMHO. Just get a decent little dual core and a upscale logitech. That Remote pan/zoom with be on my future shoping list though. Those things are awesome.

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    ^^^ A little more to say on the topic of processors. Caz is absolutely right, you CAN run the encoder on a single core. The main issues are lagging and quality, but if you do gold shows, you can overwhelm the system and crash, and then you don't get paid for the show. Just think about that - you spend half an hour talking up and selling to a gold show, and hit your target of $200, and get ten minutes through an explicit 15 minute show........and then crash. And it was all for free.

    So if you are running without at least a dual core, I wouldn't do gold shows.
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    Default Re: Equipment requirements for HD streaming on Streamate?

    Ladies! thank you SOOOO much!!

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    Default Re: Equipment requirements for HD streaming on Streamate?

    Good point about the crashing. I haven't done a gold show and have no experience with it but that's a very good thing to point out.

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    I might have missed it but I did not see this in this thread or any other thread. My Logitech C920 (up to 15 megapixel 1280x720 resolution) just committed suicide. I am freaking out that I can not get on cam right now.

    I am going to run out and get another cam, but I am not in the mood to drop $80 on another C920 at the moment.

    What would you recommend if I bought a new one, what is the lowest megapixel you would go? Would would you get if you didn't want to spend the money at the moment?

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    Default Re: Equipment requirements for HD streaming on Streamate?

    Quote Originally Posted by JackAlexander View Post
    I might have missed it but I did not see this in this thread or any other thread. My Logitech C920 (up to 15 megapixel 1280x720 resolution) just committed suicide. I am freaking out that I can not get on cam right now.

    I am going to run out and get another cam, but I am not in the mood to drop $80 on another C920 at the moment.

    What would you recommend if I bought a new one, what is the lowest megapixel you would go? Would would you get if you didn't want to spend the money at the moment?

    :-( Sad in Denver right now......
    Ive been on SM for about 5 months now..for the first 4 I used the c270 which had what I thought was great picture...then it died and I got the c920 and wow what a difference... Since ive gotten it my earnings have increased quite a bit...the guys love the crystal clear picture so...the difference between the two is only about $50 and IMO if getting the lower model decreases your earnings the savings on the cam aren't worth it, however if your strapped for cash the c270 could get you through until your able to get another c920...

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    Thanks for your recommendation Missbeth. You are right - spend the money for the good cam!!!!!!!

    I had a C270 before my C920 as well. The microphone kept messing up . I do not know what megapixel the C270 is either, but I thought it was fine until I upgraded LOL

    UPDATE: I just got back from the store, I went middle of the road with the C525 (8 megapixel).

    I must be spoiled.... the C525 is alright but the C925 has the Carl Zeiss lighting adjustment this one states it comes with it, but some reason it is NOT the same IMO. I look like I need another 10 hours of sleep with the C525. I just looked in the mirror and I do not look like this and the C925 always makes me feel like I look pretty.

    Why am I so cheap! Should have spent the extra $30!! I ripped the box to shreds I wonder if Target will take it back.



    Quote Originally Posted by Missbeth View Post
    Ive been on SM for about 5 months now..for the first 4 I used the c270 which had what I thought was great picture...then it died and I got the c920 and wow what a difference... Since ive gotten it my earnings have increased quite a bit...the guys love the crystal clear picture so...the difference between the two is only about $50 and IMO if getting the lower model decreases your earnings the savings on the cam aren't worth it, however if your strapped for cash the c270 could get you through until your able to get another c920...
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    They might take it back, you can always try!
    If they don't try messing with the contrast and saturation settings on the cam it might help a little.

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    Default Re: Equipment requirements for HD streaming on Streamate?

    If they wont take it back maybe you can resell it online to re-coop most of your money if you really hate it - or throw it in a draw to keep for an emergency

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    Just buy an i7. Or at least a mid-range i5. And you're good.

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