Question I thought of, lets say another girl tries to hustle a guy, doesn't and come back and says "he's not buying"
do you ignore him , or take a stab?


Question I thought of, lets say another girl tries to hustle a guy, doesn't and come back and says "he's not buying"
do you ignore him , or take a stab?
Most dancers wouldnt care.. It has happened a lot to me, either you smile, nod and try the customer anyway. Each has their own taste, why follow what another stripper said ?





It varies. If several tell me he's the type who never buys then yes I ignore him. More often than not guys who never buy dances from anyone get around and eventually all dancers avoid him. If it's say one dancer I would go up to him, chat a minute or so (or less)then leave. I have gotten dances from guys who turned down everyone but me.





the complete statement is "hes not buying from me" but a lot of girls tend to leave out the second part.
a girl who says that might not be his type or might have just done a shitty job of making a sale. the only time i really take girls seriously is when they warn me that a guy has done something like pissed himself or was being exceptionally handsy or something like that.
The best thing i have heard in a strip club to date:
customer: we should get married right now! we should get a shotgun marriage!
me: uhh... i think you are misunderstanding what a shotgun marriage means. A shotgun marriage means you knock me up and my daddy shows up at your door with a gun and forces you to marry me and raise the baby. You mean elope.
customer: hmm... nah actually i will take the shotgun marriage. At least then we would be having sex.




Yea I really dont trust what any girl I work with says. MAny girls say things to discourage u in an effort for themselves to somehow have the upper edge. One girl I used to work with I believe requested to work with me bc i can be a hardass and she pulled the sweet girl routine which she tried to use so that she could be the goody goody nice girl and bank off that. DIdnt usually work bc I still usually made more.![]()
x2. I always consider the source of the message. If the girl is a shitty hustler and never makes money, her opinion is moot. If the girl is my opposite (in terms of looks, hustle, personality) then I'll go for it anyway. It's only if the girl is similar to me that I may consider what she said. In that case, I'd likely hit up the other customers first and if this was the last guy left for me to hustle, I'd go for it but probably not invest too much time. Sometimes the timing just isn't right, and sometimes people just don't click, so it's always worth going over, especially if there's no other money to be made.




yeah, typically you can tell by the vibes a guy is sending out, either he's not buying period or he's not buying from her. if their body language is open and friendly he's probably just not buying from her, if he's sititng in the corner looking tense and sending off a "dont talk to me"vibe he's not buying period...
one time i talked to a guy who was really nice, it was a slow night, and he didn't want a dance. i told my friend not to bother with him cuz he wasn't buying. good thing she did say hi cuz he got a few dances from her. i didn't take it personally, it turned out he liked brunettes more than blondes....
you never know. worst thing that can happen is you chat for a minute, ask if he wants a dance, and he says no.
I've never had another dancer tell me this, but I have told dancers about time wasters before. I was sitting with this guy who seemed totally worth the time and I ended up wasting like 20 minutes..he was really good at making you think you were gonna make a lot off him and I didn't get a single dollar. Later on I see a girl talking to him and he was going on and on with his game. I walked right to the table and told her in front of him that he was a time waster and she thanked me then got up and walked away without a word to him. It was awesome.




If a girl says that to me it's usually either because many girls have tried, he's playing stupid games, or he has already spent whatever he came in with.
There will be times when a short brunette will suggest that I try after she gets turned down (me being tall and blonde) but she wouldn't say 'he's not spending in that situation.




I have done this as well.
So custies, there's a difference between "time waster" and not buying and that becomes apparent fast. If a guy isn't buying dances from a girl, MOST will go away graciously. Some won't, but that just a systemic problem of unprofessionalism. If a guy isn't buying dances but is tipping, he is fine, and will probably get some chats in if he's tipping will.
If he's not buying or tipping..well he's a waste of space but for the most part, he will tell you quickly enough, or behave in a despondent manner and will be ignored quickly.
The time waster is the second lowest breed of scumbag in the club. The only worse customer is the one that sexually assaults the girls during dances. But one lives and learns when they are the first to figure out it, including myself. If a time waster managed to waste my time and had my reeled in while I passed up other opportunities...it would be my personal goal for the rest of his night, and any time I saw him, to make sure he was treated like dirt by girls and staff. And let's just say, I was known for no drama no gossip, so people listened.
A time waster is not defined by someone who you sit with for 2 songs, "try each other on for size" and the chemistry just isn't there. Ok, fine, that's the investment cost of business. The time waster is like this new site troll, makes promises he knows he's not willing to follow through on, but plays into psychology just the right way.
We have those in my current job too, so when someone is going to be a huge drain on time and/or is just going to call around to try and haggle the price of the product, we send out a warning email to the group.
Sometimes I listen, sometimes I don't. If a girl says something like "that guy was going on and on about how doesn't buy dances" then I'll stay away. If it's just a generic "he's not buying," I might hit up other possibilities first, but go to him later. Athena's right - the full statement is "he's not buying from me" so it doesn't hurt to check it out yourself. You never know if it was just her hustle. When I danced, I would walk away from any guy who said he was going to get a dance but was too drunk to pull out his wallet in a timely manner as he kept getting distracted by his own drunken spiels. I have no patience for that and I considered it a lost cause. But many times after I walked away thinking "screw that - it's a waste of time," I'd see another girl handle his drunk state better and with more patience and get the money out of him. So, a lot of times, it's just the girl and what her moves are.

I always tell newer girls that it doesn't matter who he says "no" to until he says no to you.





depends.
did he say he's just there to watch?
did he say what does he get for twenty dollars?
did he say i am waiting for someone else but thank you for saying hi?
one must also consider the source. a dancer that i trust would not sabotage my money so if she says a motherfucker is broke, then i have text messages and emails to return.
I agree with the body language point and the client's overall enthusiasm being important. These are the tells. When they suck, they suck and everybody can smell it.
If you you see these tells as being positive, don't be afraid to encourage your fellow dancer to approach with a "I think he likes Brunettes". Please don't send them into a Kamakazee mission. And If you are the second at bat, maybe try a "name of previous blonde dancer, says you like brunettes. Is that true?" Maybe he likes redheads and will tell you.
I teach body language interpretation in the industry for a living and agree with what most of the ladies have said on this thread. However observing the body language of the potential customer is only half the battle. Knowing what to do in response to what you observe is what can turn a no into a yes. I have seen many succeed where others have failed by simply changing their approach based on the customer's signals.




Hustle the guy anyway. Who cares? If I ignored every guy who has been said to "have no money" I'd be a broke bitch. A lot of the girls in my club have shitty attitudes and can't hustle their way out of a paper bag so it's not surprising they get turned down


yes well he might not her so im still gonna give it a go
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Averteyes is correct. These tells (or body language clues) will reveal the truth. When what a guy says doesn't match his body language he is lying. If you are a good hustler you will follow this path and find out why. Did you approach too strongly, did you exhibit body language that said "I like you or I want to do business?" customers read you as much as you read them. I have seen many experienced dancers who had horrible nights because they were sending the wrong signals. A smile, great outfit, and terrific opening line aren't enough when your body language says, "this is just a business transaction."




It definitely depends on the girl who told me and the guy's general 'vibe'.
If the guy is a known customer who never goes for dances, I won't waste my time. If he just knocked back one girl, I'll probably still try and hustle him but depending on who the girl was will determine how much time I spend.
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