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    Default Did these dancers get ripped off?

    Any professional insight into this situation is appreciated.

    I don't go to clubs very much but I'm in one a few days ago while out of town with some clients. These guys are strip club regulars, and said they'd pay for everything and I know they throw money around, so hey why not

    After a few hours, they say they want to go to VIP. The client is hot for the waitress. They have a lot of drama in their relationship despite having met a few hours ago. There's lots of negotiation, and I stay totally out of it, but we end up in the VIP with the waitress and her two dancer friends.

    Now I know the client paid about $1500 for the room and had already purchased two $700 bottles dollars of vodka just so the waitress could sit with us. We're having a very enjoyable time (nothing out of bounds btw) but the client leaves. More drama, he's back, he's gone again etc. I finally go look for him, don't find him, and when I get back, I ask the waitress and the dancers what's up. They tell me the client is refusing to tip the two dancers, and the waitress tells me she's so mortified she's paying her friends $50 bucks each of her own money. I tell them I will cover the tips. FWIW I'm fairly (ok pretty damn) drunk at this point.

    Then the client comes back arguing with a very young looking manager and a lot of "this place is a ripoff, we're leaving" vibe. The next thing I know we're in a cab speeding off.

    The client says he asked how much the girls would expect to make the rest of the night and put that in the room price so we could just hang out undisturbed, but after half an hour, the manager wanted to charge another $1500.00.

    The client insists we overpaid the girls, but I feel guilty if the girls were, in fact, under compensated.

    Or should I? Didn't the waitress negotiate the dancer price into the room charge? I know that waitress is no slouch!. Wouldn't the dancers know what they were getting in advance?

    Was I simply being hit up for more money? I certainly hope so!

    I'm just worried that maybe the girls really did get ripped off. They were certainly not super naive, but they didn't seem like seen it all pros either. I realize I am just a wallet and that's fair. I expect and want to pay for services rendered, and services were rendered with extreme professionalism. But this club is not even in my hometown, so even though I'm willing to pay after the fact, if I should, how would I do it?

    Any professional insight appreciated. Thanks.
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    Default Re: Did these dancers get ripped off?

    It's hard to say without knowing how the fee structure works there but by the sound of it your friend paid each girl $500 for thirty minutes and bought 2 bottles then you tipped? This sounds about right and I wouldn't stress too much. Just sounds like they were probably expecting more if your friend said he wanted to keep them all night then leaves - I've had this happen before and it's disappointing and annoying but not your fault and it sounds like they were paid for the time they did spend with him - unless they spent hours chatting to get him to VIP.

    It sounds like the manager is just enforcing that if he wants them till the club closes then he must continue paying them per half hour, no bulk discounts. Which is fair enough.

    That being said if you wish to return to the club and give the girls money to apologize for your friends rude behavior I'm sure you won't hear any complaints

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    Default Re: Did these dancers get ripped off?

    Strip clubs and dancers are not in business to get ripped off. The girls may have been pissed because your client didn't tip them over and above the VIP rate. Most guys who spend money like that will throw around tips as well-especially if they are drunk. I wouldn't lose sleep about any possible rip-off. Things would have been a lot more tense from the management side if things were not being paid for.

    It's amazing however how cloudy the line can be between having the time of your life and feeling "ripped off". Lol, some guys are only half the high roller they think they are...
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    Default Re: Did these dancers get ripped off?

    Thank you Amareth and yoda57us-that's exactly the insight I was seeking.

    "some guys are only half the high roller they think they are... "

    Very perceptive. I'm impressed!

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    I wish I had more customers like you! The girls would have taken a nice chunk of the room fee for only 30 mins work, and personally I dont understand how dancers can complain about that large a sum of money...obviously it would be better to be paid that 2x over, but tips are TIPS. they're optional. for what its worth, i think it's quite decent of you to have paid them after your client left

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