Honesty is the best policy. If you do not want to drink alcohol then say so. There is no need to mislead a customer. A good majority of customers will be happy to save that money and use it towards tips and lapdances.
Honesty is the best policy. If you do not want to drink alcohol then say so. There is no need to mislead a customer. A good majority of customers will be happy to save that money and use it towards tips and lapdances.





Oh please. I ordered many a shot of water or juice in lieu of booze. "Party" customers often won't spend unless you're whooping it up with them. It's a fact of club life.
Please do not quote me out of context. My entire paragraph from which you quoted read as follows.
from my post of 6/23/2011
"CP I'm lucky to live in an area where the dancer drink scam is light. ABC rules prevent differentially priced dancer drinks or commission so the most we see is management encouraging dancers to get drinks. Plus then the character of the dancer comes in. My ATF back when we first met almost 5 years ago made major points by asking me if "she could have $1 to buy a coke, if you get it from waitress it will cost $3" that $2 has cost me thousands over the years."
In context does that sound bitter? To clarify for you I was refering to her positive traits winning me over and resulting in thousands spent on her for dances over the course of 5 years. To the extent that was misleading to you TOO I apologize.
So in answer to your direct question no I am not referring to that.
Secondly , I'm not bitter about my clubbing experiences.
Things I am bitter about includes your misrepresentation of my statement.
To be perfectly clear. My stated policy was covered in that same post
"This group of dancers worked together and learned from each other. They all know I will buy drinks when they want but won't force them on them to drink and be social."
As a result have bought many more red bull, diet cokes and lemonades than alcohol drinks for dancers I know well.
Apparently the convention of not quoting across the blue/pink barrier is not applicable if you are special or it's a one way filter.
I stopped drinking at work quite a while ago, and get guys to buy me bottled water all the time. Sometimes having a guy buy you a drink (any drink) makes it more likely for him to get dances since he has already "invested" some $ in you.
Also, not drinking doesn't have to ruin the party vibe. I can sit a large table with guys and other dancers who are all drinking and not feel weird about it. I also use a line sometimes like, "I enjoy my job so much I don't have to drink, etc...." I'm pretty sure that not drinking has actually made me $ on numerous occasions. Also, near the end of the night when everyone is wasted, it's much easier to take advantage of the situation and make mad cash if you're sober.
That being said, I do have one really good customer that I will sit and get loaded with all night, but he makes it worth the cab ride home.
The "blue/pink barrier?" Really?
To the best of my knowledge, the cross-forum barrier applies to practices such as quoting from dancer-only sections when posting in customer-open sections. Since blue is open to everybody, as is CC, no such barrier exists, by convention or otherwise. In fact, there's a significant historical record of cross-borrowing or referencing content across the two.
I'm certainly fine with your quoting the entire context, but I'm wondering what happened to the regulatory discussion, which was all your original two-line post was about.
To recall, it was your claim that clubs could lose their liquor licences for "fake drink" actions that could be deemed fraudulent. Since "fraud" is a pretty strong term, I thought it was worth investigating. You appear not to have been referring to your own jurisdiction in this case, so in that event do you know of relevant codes that actually stipulate this, or was it just conjecture on your part?





I don't know how it's fraud to be honest. I suspect when guys get mad about this it's because they are hoping to get a drunk dancer. If guys have an issue with this, then avoid the clubs where dancers make money off hustling drinks and stick to clubs where this doesn't happen.




I have recently quit drinking as well and here are some of the excuses I make that really work:
a. I am under 21 (if you look young you can pull this off) - this is a very good one cuz they can't argue with that, they don't want to get in trouble with the law.
b. I am an angry drunk. Normally I am happy and fun but when I start drinking I turn into a miserable mean bitch. - works pretty well
c. I am on meds that react badly with alcohol (this one doesn't work as well, cuz the guy kept pushing me to tell him what the med was - asshole, that is personal/confidential; also they might wonder what kind of illness I have and that might be a turn off)
And I'm thinking of maybe using this one sometime:
d. I was in an alcohol related accident a few years ago so I can't drink for psychological reasons.
Realistically guys shouldn't give a fuck if you drink or not but the reality is that guys DO care, they feel bad that they are drinking by themselves or that you might not be as fun sober, when the opposite is usually the case. I am much more fun sober and much more attractive as well.
Guys: I would love to be able to be honest and upfront with you guys that I am not a drinker, but it's the a-hole guys that fuck it up for you and make girls feel obligated to lie and use drink scams to avoid drinking. I am often being pressured to drink that I find it just much easier to just lie or take a few sips of my drink, or use the various methods other members have posted above.

If you always accept drink offers from me I would assume you are an alcoholic. No chance of getting regular business from me.
Just the way I am.




That's pretty stupid. Most clubs that sell alcohol ask dancers to always accept drinks when offered, even if they don't drink them. This has been the topic of many "meetings" because it brings the clubs a lot of revenue when a girl goes from guy to guy and they buy not only himself a drink, but her as well. Girls say no to drinks get called out and in trouble. Strippers are replaceable so managers won't think twice about firing a girl who isn't bringing them money versus one that is.
It doesn't make her a drunk. Now, if she's guzzling shot after shot with you, night after night, she may have a problem. It could be the disease of alcoholism, which is no laughing matter, or she could be a problem drunk, something pretty common for those working in a place where consumption is encouraged.





Agreed ^^^^^^
Many guys don't realize at some clubs hustling drinks is part of it even if we don't drink. I am by no means even close to an alcoholic.





When I go to clubs, I tend to leave my judgmental shit at home. Maybe you should try that too.
Neither you nor I have to take off our clothes and perform for a club full of guys, nor do we have to give lapdances to these guys or deal with all of the ridiculous bullshit that comes with the territory. With all of that in mind, IMHO judging them harshly for taking a few drinks is way out of line.
What's worse here, however, is that you offer them the drinks and then silently condemn them if they are gracious enough to accept and continue to hang out with you. Seriously?![]()

I spend enough that I often have a dancer or two in each club that is mine every time I go in. Criticizing folks, the title of this string is whether it is rude for a dancer to decline a drink. In my case, Hell No it is not rude! I return to clubs often enough that I want my special girl to be able to recognize me when I come in. If she happens to offer a special extra, I don't want her to have gotten drunk the night before and picked up multiple diseases from some seedy dude.
You called my opinion stupid. So be it. I thought my opinion was sought by the title of this string. My opinion stand as my opinion.
I have had many girls tell me they were required to get me to buy a drink but they did not want it. A $50 tip to the lady allows her to "bribe" the manager and have extra left over for herself. Or I will buy her three drinks at once an tell her to see if her friends want one or three of them.
Basically I will do whatever she wants. But I do have opinions as to whether she is a girl I would like to have in the VIP again.





I'm not sure what this has to do with anything, but ok. I do as well, but I didn't really feel the need to bring it up in this particular thread as it is not really relevant here.
Then why didn't you just say so?
Oh, so only the extras girls that get drunk pick up diseases? Or perhaps you believe that you are special, but only if she is sober?
Hey, you said it, not me.
What, so now it is not you offering, but rather the girl being forced by the club to make you buy drinks for her? Most of that made no sense at all.





Looks like another judgemental troll has joined. Ugh I really don't know what to say except I find it extremely hypocritical to think dancers are drunks, have diseases, etc.
^^ Right?Like Rick said, only the extras girls who stay sober don't pick up diseases...? Hmmmm
Don't try to win over the haters. You are not the Jerk Whisperer.
Your playing small does not serve the world. There is nothing enlightened about shrinking so that other people won't feel insecure around you.




When I think of all the pretend shots of Patrone I have had... ^_^ !





Last spring, I worked in a club (one of the Paper Moon clubs in RVa) where all the dancers who would get wasted would be the ones making the most money, so I decided to do this:
-Order alcoholic drinks.
-Pretend that I was drinking it.
-Turn to the other side (usually using an excuse, like my earring fell, or that I'm fixing my shoe, legwarmers, etc).
-Pour the drink in the floor while nobody watched.
-Claim to "drank the drink too quick" and want another.
-Act shitfaced.
-Made lots of money.
It sure worked, and in the end it saved my life (being sober made me aware a customer I was dancing for wanted to assault me). I encourage all dancers to do this.




As a rule, i dont drink at work ever. Ill have the odd glass of champagne (if i have seen the bottle be opened by the bar staff and then poured directly in front of me) but generally its always a no. If customers question why i dont drink ill tell them its so i can give a better lap dance, if they are paying me to give a dance, i tell them i consider it a service, and i would always want to give the best and most sensual, sexy lap dance ever so i dont drink because it makes me pay less attention to them as a customer and they deserve the best for their money, surely!?
In reality its because i get shit faced off two glasses of wine and no way am i going to compromise my safety and money by drinking on the job. Plus, why piss away what im earning on booze, if they buy me a drink in the club, the prices are extortionate and it makes them less likely to have a dance, id rather have their £20 in my garter than their fiver on wine in my stomach. Plus, If THEY drink what they would have spent on buying ME a drink, they are more likely to get drunk and free-er with their cash ergo, their money ends up in my purse regardless, and ill buy my own wine with their money to drink in the comfort of my own home if i so choose.
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Tell the bartender you're not drinking, but you don't want to decline a drink so to just make you virgin drinks. Then order vodka & soda water so you're only drinking seltzer. Ask for a lemon or lime wedge if you want some flavour.
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Just order Perrier water if they have it. I think it's still classy to drink Perrier at a club.




or tap water...cause its freeIm a cheap ass, not only do i never drink at work, but if i get a drink i have lime and soda water, which is also free.
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When I ask if I can get a dancer a drink, the question behind the question is whether she will sit with me for a while and chat. I honestly don't care if she just orders soda or even nothing at all.




Just as a side story, I had a customer last week who asked me would i like a drink with him, i as always, said "no thankyou, i dont drink at work, but maybe later" He continued all night to call me over all night to "chat" but not have a dance (he was an arrogant douche and after about three times of him asking for my real name, number, facebook etc i asked him not to call me over unless he would like a dance off me. He was asking the waitresses to come get me, they would come tell me he wanted a dance, i would go over, all he wanted was to sit and try and get info out of me. He wouldn't have a sit-down (£300 per hour) with me, so i assumed he was a time waster.
So a little later on, he calls me over, i go over "would you like a dance now hun?" he goes, "Not yet, ive just ordered some wine, then we can go dance..." So i wait...the waitress brings over the bottle, uncorks it, he asks me if i want a glass, i say "No thankyou, i told you i dont drink at work and i dont drink red wine anyway" ...he gets really annoyed, tried blaming me for him ordering the wine and was fussy about paying for it. Even after all this, he tried getting me to have a glass (i dont like red wine at all and so would never drink it anyway) after him going on about how he wouldnt have ordered it if i hadnt said i wanted a drink i told him "Look, time is money, do you want a dance or not because you have been wasting my time all night calling me over and im bored of it, I dont know if you are getting me confused with one of the other girls because i NEVER drink at work and i certainly wouldnt have ever said to order red wine, please stop trying to blame me for your idiocy, you are welcome to drink it and spend money on me but i wont be drinking!"
I dont mind sitting and chatting to customers for a little while, especially if its not busy, but unless they are paying for my time after a max of about 15/20 minutes i would leave them and move on, i dont understand what customers think when they refuse to spend money on the girls, but expect me to sit and talk to them, i am at work, its not social. All this particular customer wanted was for me to go home with him, his friend offered another girl £15K if she would go home with him (he had a fair bit of cash on him, but they wouldnt have sit downs, wouldnt have dances and only wanted to get us drunk. I can drink on my own time, not at work.
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