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    Default Big Money To be Made for Enterprising Gals?....

    As many of you know there's a huge oil boom going on Up in North Dakota around the town of Williston...That huge oil field, known as the Bakken Formation, extends into Eastern Montana...Well the oil boom is moving West into Montana around the towns of Sydney & Fairview.......If I was an Enterprising young stripper, I'd get together with some other hard workin gals...We'd pool our resources, buy a well insulated 27 ft trailer, ( housing is tight up there & very expensive)', & buy a DIESEL Pickup, ( Dodge Cummins diesels are the most reliable...Find a 1990-2002 model with a manuel transmission)...Learn how to drive it with a big trailer or fifth wheel and head up to Sydney Montana.....Find a suitable building for a strip club and secure a long term lease....Strippers in Williston are making 1K-2K nightly....You Gals would share the management, bartending and Dancing & ALL the profit would be yours to share...The Oil boom is starting to move into Sydney & Fairview...Soon all those fellows making a 100k a year gonna be lookin for a place to wet their whistle & be entertained.....Someones gonna do it & make a KILLING....Might as well be you.......

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    ^^^ interesting business plan !!! However, like all potential investments, it's necessary to do your research and separate economic facts from wishful thinking.

    As to the hyped Williston news stories, the strip club review website postings and feedback from dancers who have actually been there recently tend to indicate that the $2k a night earnings levels reported by one dancer to news media is about as accurate as the $2k a night earnings levels reported by Manhattan dancers to the NY Post. Yup, maybe true for one night per month ... with the remaining 30 nights averaging far less.

    From a business model standpoint, making money as a DANCER from blue collar workers typically requires the presence of a club that can serve alcohol. This requires both a suitable property and an alcohol license. Setting up a 'new' club is not going to happen overnight. It's going to take investment cash for the property plus political 'grease' for the license. And it's going to have to take place over the objections of existing clubowners ... who are 'locals'... that are likely to 'lose business' from the new competition. It's also going to have to take place over the objections of long term local residents, who probably aren't thrilled with the idea that their quiet little town is quickly turning into sin city.

    From a practical standpoint, even if a suitably equipped rental property was available, you're talking about having to wait for weeks ( without an income ) before earning dollar one. And if a rental property must be equipped with 'leasehold improvements', this means investing tens of thousands of dollars in bar / stage / other plus additional weeks of delay. And after paying for the lease, the bar / stage equipment, the liquor license, etc. you still run the risk that your opening night can be ruined by non-approving local residents suddenly passing an adult business zoning ordinance which prevents you from offering topless / nude entertainment as well as any sort of contact with customers. This would mean your business model must suddenly be converted into a 'bikini bar', which would instantly transform that hoped for $2000 a night into $200 a night.

    Even during summer months, the costs of living in this area are high ... since there is no access to big box retailers. And in winter months, the costs of living can be brutal. Even with a well insulated 5th wheel camper, you're still talking about huge food and fuel bills. This is the classic 'boom town' problem well characterized during the Alaska pipeline construction ... earning twice normal levels but spending twice normal levels doesn't really leave you all that much better off in the long run.

    Now if the goal is to earn major money by doing MORE than just dancing, then scratch all of the above. But that's a different business model, with different infrastructure requirements and different economics. But if the stated goal is opening up a new strip club, if this is going to happen successfully it's probably going to have to be spearheaded by a local resident who can deflect potential complaints from other local residents, who can 'work' the alcohol license, local politicians and LE, etc. But that local resident may NOT need out-of-state investors !

    And without investor participation, girls might as well work for existing clubs ! At least that way, if the highly touted $2k a night earnings levels turn out to be way off, and if the high costs of living, frigid climate, and grabby blue collar customers quickly convince them that the pursuit isn't worth the effort, they won't have tens of thousands of dollars worth of 'trapped' investment money to worry about and can simply start driving south !

    So from a real world risk / reward investment scenario, IMHO investing tens of thousands of dollars in this business plan arguably falls in the same category as betting on the money wheel at a casino.

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    Default Re: Big Money To be Made for Enterprising Gals?....

    Quote Originally Posted by RufusT View Post
    Strippers in Williston are making 1K-2K nightly....
    What strippers SAY they earn... and what strippers ACTUALLY earn are often two very, VERY different numbers.
    Just sayin'.
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    Default Re: Big Money To be Made for Enterprising Gals?....

    i think the money there is very real, as there is currently very little housing available there, and their current situation is not sustainable unless they make some adjustments and fast. the crime rates are up largely due to the influx of men making money and having nothing to do. so having two strip clubs helps until they walk outside and remember they are in the middle of nowhere.
    there is potentially space for expansion and development that could lead to the construction of more strip clubs, but right now, north dakota needs to work on construction more housing first.

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