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    This might sound like a silly question but I have a good reason for asking. Lots of girls have complained about a couple of dung beetles for doing everything they could to prevent others from making money on the floor or on stage.

    The club is slow but there was the opportunity for girls to make money before the two dung beetles came along. I once made a post about a situation with one of them but there are a ton of other complaints other girls have had about them.

    The first time I ever saw the fat one, she had disrespected a friend of mine by literally trying to steal her customer. She saw my friend standing there talking to the guy yet, she jumped right in front of her and began flirting with him and said something like "Ditch her and get dances from me." Its great that the guy didn't find her appealing and took my friend to VIP instead.

    Other complaints from girls about the two dung beetles has been the fact that they do lesbian acts to distract ALL attention from anyone on stage so they won't get tipped. And when they go on stage together, they do lesbian acts to distract guys from buying dances from the other girls.

    They've recently started hanging out at the main entrance to grab guys and prevent the other girls from having the opportunity to make money. Every girl that's complained about those two dung beetles either left early or quit. The club needs girls bad enough to call and text them to come in all the time. But they should know by now that if they're not gonna start having standards by not allowing the dung beetles to constantly steal opportunities away from other girls to make money, no one will want to stay. The dung beetles don't even tip out. Most clubs get rid of those kind.

    Someone once told me that if you always see one or two girls that are ALWAYS making money when everyone else is struggling, you know they're doing something shady. Even top earners have their bad nights.

    I'm just wondering if anyone else works at a club that's desperate enough to allow that kind of behavior or if your club has rules against disrespectful dancers.
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    I dont get it. What are you complaining about? We all have those annoying girls in the club that nobody likes who do all that is listed above but I have never let girls like that over power me. To say that they are stealing custys and that they are basically affecting busniess for other girls is not a reflection on them. Its actually a reflection on you and the dancers that are already there, the lack of husteling skills. When girls are doing badly they always wanna have a scapegoat whether its the economy or other girls when the reality is that most times its the girls themselves. See ive been in your situation where a girl was trying to steal my custys and all that you described. Instead of complaining about it and letting her basically run the club i upped my hustel and basically shot her down when she pulled her shit infront of custys saying things like "hey your interupting our conversation. Im sure when im done with him he will come to you but until then you should leave". As for stealing custys like i said thats a reflection of your husteling skills. I always say, im not at work to make friend im here to make money and although i would never try to steal a custy from a girl thats already sitting there all these other tactics sound fair to me because in reality why SHOULD they give you guys a chance to make money? Honestly? Thats not going to pay their rent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MysteriousMisty View Post
    This might sound like a silly question but I have a good reason for asking. Lots of girls have complained about a couple of dung beetles for doing everything they could to prevent others from making money on the floor or on stage.

    The club is slow but there was the opportunity for girls to make money before the two dung beetles came along. I once made a post about a situation with one of them but there are a ton of other complaints other girls have had about them.

    The first time I ever saw the fat one, she had disrespected a friend of mine by literally trying to steal her customer. She saw my friend standing there talking to the guy yet, she jumped right in front of her and began flirting with him and said something like "Ditch her and get dances from me." Its great that the guy didn't find her appealing and took my friend to VIP instead.

    Other complaints from girls about the two dung beetles has been the fact that they do lesbian acts to distract ALL attention from anyone on stage so they won't get tipped. And when they go on stage together, they do lesbian acts to distract guys from buying dances from the other girls.

    They've recently started hanging out at the main entrance to grab guys and prevent the other girls from having the opportunity to make money. Every girl that's complained about those two dung beetles either left early or quit. The club needs girls bad enough to call and text them to come in all the time. But they should know by now that if they're not gonna start having standards by not allowing the dung beetles to constantly steal opportunities away from other girls to make money, no one will want to stay. The dung beetles don't even tip out. Most clubs get rid of those kind.

    Someone once told me that if you always see one or two girls that are ALWAYS making money when everyone else is struggling, you know they're doing something shady. Even top earners have their bad nights.

    I'm just wondering if anyone else works at a club that's desperate enough to allow that kind of behavior or if your club has rules against disrespectful dancers.
    Once again another scape goat. "oh those girls are making money because they are doing extras while no one else is". The statement is not true. I know a girl at my club who doesnt do extras and is kind who makes $800 plus on alot of nights when other girls are struggling to pull in $500. And her bad nights are most girls good nights. These type of women have almost perfect huslteing skills and are pros at bending men around their will. Most of them.
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    If girls are doing lesbian shows, and distracting all the guys away from you, good for them!! They're there to make money, not to share the customers around equally. Getting all the eyes and $$ on you is the point of stage, in my opinion!

    When I'm talking to a guy I will deliberately distract him from the stage, or physically put myself between his view of the stage. I want his eyes on me, not on the stage.

    Similarly, if they're hanging at the club entrance and getting to the guys before the other girls, you shouldn't be bitching about them, you should be saying to yourself 'I really need to hang out at the entrance more to get to the guys first'

    Unless a girl is deliberately grass cutting on a customer you are with at that moment, this is nothing more than jealous bitching. If girls are making more $$ than you, don't hate on them, lift your own game.

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    OK. I can see where it comes across as scapegoating but in all my years of dancing, I've never seen this type of rude behavior before. Its not just me, but EVERYONE complains about these dung beetles.

    Most clubs don't like for the girls to hang out at the main entrance and attack guys the second they walk in (and in many cases, the guys don't like it either). At least give them a chance to buy a drink BEFORE approaching them. But these girls literally try to prevent other girls (not just me) from making money. It would be one thing if the club was busy and had plenty of custys to go around but that isn't the case.

    One night they were out on the main floor in their street clothes. They were supposed to go out and do some promoting to bring guys in. But as soon as they saw a couple of guys walking in, they undressed right there on the main floor and did an hour with the guys. Everyone bitched about this. And as it turns out, they are doing extras. Sure, it happens at a lot of clubs but most of us have self respect and don't feel the need to do extras just to make a buck.

    At any rate, they're not allowed to hang out at the main entrance anymore. The only solution is to find a busier club. We were able to make money before no matter how slow it was. But this is beyond ridiculous.

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    I am confused why you keep calling them dung beetles. That's odd. Anyway, there are always going to be girls who will do ANYTHING to make money, including extras. The best way to deal with it is to ignore it and do your job.

    I don't know these girls but I often hear the excuse from many "she's making money because she's doing extras". While they maybe doing extras, it could also be that other dancers are jealous they are making money and no one else is. I once worked at a club where I made more than most of the other dancers and I worked hard to make it. The other dancers hated me because of it and would tell people I was doing extras. I never did.

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    ok i thought i was gonna be the only one who found this post odd. i love being pervy with the other girls...bonus that it makes me money!
    if the girl on stage doesnt like that the customers are looking at me maybe she should up her stage game. its not like i came to work to help her make money!
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    Outside of the girl/girl thing (which may or may not be illegal depending on what they are doing)everything else is common. This whole "stealing a customer" issue is really silly because if a customer decides to switch girls it's his business and will not be persuaded if he's happy having one regular dancer. I've lost customers to other dancers and gained customers and that's life.

    I did get a little annoyed with the idea that a dancer must be doing tricks if she's the only one making money. Maybe because that has happened to me and I was always clean. It's not my fault when I walked out with $400 and the other dancers walked out owing house. This happened to me where I was one of the only dancers making money.

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    ^ nothin illegal a little boobie groping or biting here n there
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    That sounds legal, I was thinking more hardcore girl on girl but what you mentioned I doubt would be illegal. I don't know though.

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    i save the hardcore stuff for the dressing room .
    drunk girls in slutty outfits= bisexual awesomness lmao
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kellydancer View Post
    I am confused why you keep calling them dung beetles. That's odd. Anyway, there are always going to be girls who will do ANYTHING to make money, including extras. The best way to deal with it is to ignore it and do your job.

    I don't know these girls but I often hear the excuse from many "she's making money because she's doing extras". While they maybe doing extras, it could also be that other dancers are jealous they are making money and no one else is. I once worked at a club where I made more than most of the other dancers and I worked hard to make it. The other dancers hated me because of it and would tell people I was doing extras. I never did.
    I feel the term "dung beetles" fits these two perfectly because they actually do ANYTHING to make money. I don't care how good one's hustle is, its tacky for a girl to walk up to a guy that's already occupied and try to lure him away from another girl. I don't care if they do lesbian acts but they sure as hell don't have to try to keep attention away from other girls that are there to make money. One time the dung beetles were tacky enough to grab a couple of guys from a group that had just walked in and did lap dances at the stage while someone was performing which also kept her from getting tipped! They could have and should have done there dances anywhere else in the club except at the damn stage! They're disliked because of their tactics. There's no jealousy involved but strong dislike of them because of t heir lack of respect toward others.

    The first thing I noticed and liked about Vegas clubs is that most of the times, girls don't talk shit out of jealousy. They won't say a word unless they've actually witnessed an act. Like when I first began dancing and admired a girl who always seemed to do well. I was hoping that whatever she did would rub off on me so I could start making that kind of money until I learned that she allowed guys to finger her on the floor and in VIP and even flashed her pussy to my customer while I was in his lap. I missed it but the other girls including my customer saw it but he didn't go for it. And when customers tell their friends who did what for them in VIP, that's just more confirmation. When a floor guy has witnessed the same actions, how much more confirmation does one need???

    I used to think it was silly for a girl to say that a customer was stolen from her when its really up to the guy to decide who he wants to spend his money on. But when you are already with a customer, and some rude bitch sees you standing there talking to him but literally jumps in front of you and starts flirting and even says "Ditch her and get dances from me" that is an attempt to steal. At least have the decency to wait until AFTER the girl is done doing business with him before approaching.

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    The 2 clubs I work in now have strict rules on conduct both between girls and with customers.
    One is more strict than the other but generally no poaching clients, no sitting on laps, no unladylike behaviour and while there is no dress code as such, if the outfit is too revealing/trashy you will be told to change.
    At the stricter club you are asked not to get up and go smoke or go approach a customer while another girl is onstage. The atmosphere among the girls there is great as the girls are encouraged to respect each other and work fairly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by missyqueenb View Post
    Once again another scape goat. "oh those girls are making money because they are doing extras while no one else is". The statement is not true. I know a girl at my club who doesnt do extras and is kind who makes $800 plus on alot of nights when other girls are struggling to pull in $500. And her bad nights are most girls good nights. These type of women have almost perfect huslteing skills and are pros at bending men around their will. Most of them.
    Doesn't sound like scapegoating to me at all. She did say its a slow club. I think most of us know that in slow clubs, there's bound to be one or two girls that play dirty. We all know what its like to be falsely accused of doing extras when you're clean but I don't see where she's making false accusations at all. It sounds more like those two bitches she's complaining about have no respect for the other girls at the club. Management at my club doesn't allow a dancer to approach a customer while he's talking with someone else. Would you think it was another "scape goat" if some girl approached a customer while your in conversation it him??

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChasityDancer View Post
    Doesn't sound like scapegoating to me at all. She did say its a slow club. I think most of us know that in slow clubs, there's bound to be one or two girls that play dirty. We all know what its like to be falsely accused of doing extras when you're clean but I don't see where she's making false accusations at all. It sounds more like those two bitches she's complaining about have no respect for the other girls at the club. Management at my club doesn't allow a dancer to approach a customer while he's talking with someone else. Would you think it was another "scape goat" if some girl approached a customer while your in conversation it him??

    Im sorry but theres too sides to every coin and we dont have these "dung" bugs here to say otherwise so it would be naieve to take her word on everything. Especially since her complaints seem to be unfounded. Shes getting mad at girls for making money and since she has never seen these girls doing extras shes just specualting to hide her own inadequecy of not being able to make money. I say its a scapegoat because it is not always true and most girls use this as the top excuse as to why they are unable to make money. If you read my whole post then you would have seen that I dont condone talking to another custy while a girl is with him but their other tactics seem fair like lesbo shows. Shes blaming the reason why all the girls dont make money on these 2 girls. That is ridiculous.
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    in answer to the question, my club is desperate for girls (will hire anything with a vagina, but most quit when they realise because of attitude or appearance they find it hard to make money). But they don't tolerate extras. However from your post it sounds as though you don't know that these girls are doing extras - you are wondering how they are making more money/getting more customers?

    At my club it's considered rude to distract someone sitting at the stage from the dancers on stage (ie i would never sit down at a table right near the stage and turn my back on a dancer). i think their hustle is more "aggressive" than what your club is used to?

    but you're not there to watch the other girls - you're there to make money for YOU and so are they. my advice to make more money would be that complaining about these girls will get you nowhere. concentrate on yourself and your hustle and forget about them. there's nothing stopping you from taking on a more aggressive style of hustling and making cash!!

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    also, if a customer is at the bar not the stage, a dancer can certainly distract the customer from the dancer. i generally find it's easier to admire the girl on stage along with the customer, playing along with the 'all i have on my mind is sex as well, isn't she great, why don't you take me for a private show and we can get to know each other better'

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    Quote Originally Posted by lolly1 View Post
    also, if a customer is at the bar not the stage, a dancer can certainly distract the customer from the dancer. i generally find it's easier to admire the girl on stage along with the customer, playing along with the 'all i have on my mind is sex as well, isn't she great, why don't you take me for a private show and we can get to know each other better'
    Yes, I've done this and the customers really like it when girls compliment one another instead of acting catty.

    As for the dung beetles, I do know for a fact that they're doing extras because one of the male employees witnessed it several times and said so. And as I've mentioned, ALL the other girls have complained about those dung beetles too. Everyone is there to make money for themselves but with it being such a terribly slow club, they try to make it difficult for the others to make money by grabbing guys before they even have the opportunity to sit down or order a drink first. They once tried to ruin my hustle by approaching a customer when I had to let the bartender know what he wanted to drink but they failed because I went right back to my customer, continued my conversation with him and wound up getting dances plus VIP. A co-worker and I decided that if they were gonna hang out at the main entrance, we'd do the same. But when there are more girls than customers and a couple of dung beetles are doing extras, its very hard for others to make money. And as I've mentioned before, when a girl is sitting or standing with a guy trying to make money for herself, she doesn't need the fat dung beetle literally walking over, whispering in the guy's ear and attempting to lure him away. That would piss anyone off. She tried that shit on a new girl and had the nerve to complain when the girl told her off.

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    I think what the OP is trying to say is that in some clubs there are some rules of thumb regarding dancer's etiquette. I had seen them before, like for example:

    -Dancers aren't allowed to sit around the stage.
    -Dancers aren't allowed to jump on a customer's lap when he's already talking to someone else.
    -Dancers aren't allowed to block the view of the stage.
    -Dancers aren't allowed to dance together (in some places, it's actually against the law).

    And of course, the extras.

    I do not thing she's being a scapegoat, but that her concern is legitimate. I honestly believe that one of the best ways to making money is actually playing fair. After all, what comes around goes around.

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    sorry but you obviously haven't dealt with girls that won't comply with your demands...

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    sorry but you obviously haven't dealt with girls that won't comply with your demands...

    Quote Originally Posted by missyqueenb View Post
    I dont get it. What are you complaining about? We all have those annoying girls in the club that nobody likes who do all that is listed above but I have never let girls like that over power me. To say that they are stealing custys and that they are basically affecting busniess for other girls is not a reflection on them. Its actually a reflection on you and the dancers that are already there, the lack of husteling skills. When girls are doing badly they always wanna have a scapegoat whether its the economy or other girls when the reality is that most times its the girls themselves. See ive been in your situation where a girl was trying to steal my custys and all that you described. Instead of complaining about it and letting her basically run the club i upped my hustel and basically shot her down when she pulled her shit infront of custys saying things like "hey your interupting our conversation. Im sure when im done with him he will come to you but until then you should leave". As for stealing custys like i said thats a reflection of your husteling skills. I always say, im not at work to make friend im here to make money and although i would never try to steal a custy from a girl thats already sitting there all these other tactics sound fair to me because in reality why SHOULD they give you guys a chance to make money? Honestly? Thats not going to pay their rent.

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    I worked at a club that was like this. the money was bad, like less than the cost of gas to get there bad.... Management was the problem because they allowed these things to happen. You can't change other ppl & management is probably getting tipped out if extras are occurring.

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    Wtf...dead thread -__-

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    IME, one of the best way to know if dancers do extras is by either going to the blue forum (strip club junkies) and the TUSCL website; even if some customers like to inflate the truth, they tend to be pretty accurate. If you google your club, and see a review about a customer and that review talks about how he got some extra from a dancer (especially a "dung beetle" like the OP says), then you'll know who does it and who doesn't . For the longest time I did not wanted to think that if a girl is having a good night she's doing extras (I mean, I had have awesome nights without never doing extras), but a little search on TUSCL or in the blue, and gut feeling revealed the truth. Plenty of dancers make lots by playing fair, but the ones who doesn't are enjoying lots of fame over internet forums.





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