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Last edited by vm3118; 11-26-2011 at 03:02 PM. Reason: need to delete
I think she wants something more than just your lapdance money. I think she obviously wants a relationship with you, and eventually marriage. She probably is fantasizing right now about you depositing your 50 yr old nut juice in her, so she can bear your children.....She doesnt want to cheapen this with a lapdance.
I think it is that.....and definitely NOT that she can get your money without having to get creepy old guy face all over her tits.


If you have seen her weekly for 4 months, and spent 600-1000 dollars on her per week, that works out to about 13,000 dollars. I guess my question would be what you're spending money on if there are no lap dances. Do you just pass her hundreds as you're chatting with her?
Dude, you've given a girl 13k for basically being your buddy for the past 4 months. She's probably concerned that changing the dynamic of the relationship via a LD will screw things up.



I love customers like you. Easy target![]()





Your an ATM.



Wait... you're spending 600 - 1000/wk and you're NOT getting any dances? Sounds like she's bleeding you without having to do anything except chat. She doesn't have to ask you for things outside the club since you're plunking down 2400-4000K per month in the club. Heck, for that money, I'll dance for you, buddy.
If you want dances, find someone who will provide for the $$$ you're spending. Now... if you STOP spending $$$ in the club and she still wants to hang... then maybe something's up. Until then, assume you're paying for small talk.



She has a grandfather fetish.
I can do better than you in a two bit fancy house


I would like to know what you are paying her for. Getting money without having to dance is a dream come true, or so I would assume. Yes, it would appear that your paying for a dance outs her back into the "fields" with the laborers.
The only way to know is to pay her a little less, go in earlier and get dances with another. Stop and return to her when she gets in so it doesn't look like you prefer another dancer over her when she is around. Once she sees that you have diverted some of your budget to another, it might prod her to work a little harder for your money...





Um, really? She takes your money for sitting with you inside the club but she won't dance for you? I have to ask here, what exactly is in it for you? She's put you in the non-sexual sugar daddy box. You are never going to get out unless you withhold your money. She's getting everything she wants from you-your money-without doing anything to earn it!
Forget about the fact that she is seeing you OTC. If she isn't dancing for you in the club or having sex with you outside the club you are wasting your money. "Friends" don't charge "friends" to hang out.
I have a few interesting ITC/OTC relationships with dancers. Some of them involve money for one component or another and some of them don't. None of them involve money for just hanging out. Sorry, that's just dumb.
vm3118,
I think she likes you and just because she likes you does not mean you should not spend money on her. I think you are doing the right thing by helping your friend whom you like so much.
I think it is ultimately your decision whether you value friendship more than the artificial pleasure which is only momentary.



^ Um... no. If she likes him and is a friend, then she wouldn't be milking his wallet just for conversation. If going on a non-sexual 'date' brings him back into the club so he'll spend $$$ for a non-sexual conversation, then that's time well spent, business-wise.
That's not a "friend". That's a hustler. And she's got a live one.

I think if you're George Clooney or any other over 50 sex-symbol, you're definitely eventually going to get laid. Just ask.
If you aren't a wealthy over 50 sex-symbol... You've met a girl that's been in the industry less than 6 months that is a natural assassin. If you're only spending at most a grand a week, be thankful you didn't meet her after she's been doing this a couple years - you'd be spending a lot more.
She doesn't want your money outside the club for one of two reasons:
She would feel like a prostitute or feel "dirty" for taking your money outside of a work setting
OR (more likely in my opinion) she's afraid that if she does take your money outside of work, that it won't last very long, you'll expect more and the "relationship" will end quickly.
By only taking your money at work, there is a safe out not having to sleep with you, while still taking your money.
If you can afford it and you feel it's worth it, go for it.
Not everything is about sex or romance, sounds like you just want to feel good about yourself and it sounds like she's doing that for you.


Your company and conversation is probably something she genuinely vales at work. It helps pass the time on the job without the unpleasantness of dancing for PLs. In that respect, she probably does value you as more than a customer. I'm sure there is SOME satisfaction in that, but you have to ask yourself if you are getting what you want out if this "relationship"?





She's definitely in love with you. When I was 19 I loved much older men and now that I am 40 I seek out men as old as possible. In fact I've been asking my grandparents if they know any single guys their age and everyday they tell me about a newly single friend they can hook me up with.
Seriously though she's playing you. 19 year old generally do not like 50 year olds and contrary to what many men think this is pretty much across the board. I generally think a 50 year old is too old for me and at that age I would have said gross.
He (the customer in question) thinks she (the stripper in question) is his friend. She must be doing something positive to enforce that belief, which is evident by him spending money on her. He values the friendship and rewards the grantor of joy with money. I see nothing wrong with it.





I see nothing wrong with this picture.
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If it makes you happy and it makes her happy, what's the problem? If you miss her lapdances, tell her so. As long as you're both enjoying the interaction, fabulous! At least one of the customers with whom I had a similar relationship is still a good friend, years after I left the business. It's possible.
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She probably gets more money from you when you hand it to her versus lapdances... where the club has a cut of the lap money. Shes hustling you.

I think you're getting played.
If your finances can truly afford a 2-4k / month strip club habit, I would suggest moving on; to another club, if that's an option, but definately to another dancer. There's plenty of booty shakin' to be had with that kind of spending.
If you're sincerely looking to salvage this "relationship", just express your frustration with not seeing her dance.
Did the sign outside the club read "Gentleman's Club, live nude dancing" or "Rent-a-Friend, seated conversations only" ?




Sounds like a great deal for HER, but not you. She gets a shitload of your money and doesn't even have to work for it and get naked for it. Why would she give that up? Also a lot of clubs get a cut of the money made from dances, because you are not getting dances, she gets to keep 100% of the money she makes offa you. Lucky bitch.
If you're not happy with what you're getting out of the interaction with the dancer, does it really matter how she views you?
Last edited by wall; 11-24-2011 at 11:44 AM. Reason: wording




Im 50 shes 19Wake up and smell the cheap body spray dude.Iusually spend 600 to 1000 per week.

While sitting with her in the club chatting, ask one of the other girls.....or a couple of girls to dance for you. If she is your friend , she will see that the girls give you excellent dances!!!
If she in not really your "friend" I believe she might protest.
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tell her to come home and meet your family. If that costs extra, then you know
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