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    Default Re: To report my Ex into fraud or not?

    Well do you have a reason for reporting him aside from spite?

    I will tell you that a man in his mid twenties receiving disability will be put under surveillance by the state at some point. They are notorious for that because so many people receive it fraudulently. You can probably assume the state will catch up with him sooner or later.

    I would leave it alone. There is no reason to stir up trouble.

    If you decide to go through with it then have your car parked in a drive way, garage, or well lit area. You can throw an alarm on your car that will go off if someone shatters the windows or tries to break in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Laurisa View Post
    Well do you have a reason for reporting him aside from spite?
    The fact that it's wrong and it takes away resources from the truly needy should be reason enough. Of course report him, if he is really disabled somehow it will cause him no problems.
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    Default Re: To report my Ex into fraud or not?

    I don't think you should... you're just being nosey IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trem View Post
    The fact that it's wrong and it takes away resources from the truly needy should be reason enough. Of course report him, if he is really disabled somehow it will cause him no problems.
    I get that Trem, but if she's worried about retaliation then she should not get involved. Her safety and property is not worth reporting the guy.

    The state DOES check into people receiving disability regularly, and you know that. If she hadn't said she was worried about her property being damaged then I would have encouraged her.

    Do you think the state will pay if he beats her car with a baseball bat? No. If she sues him and he has no money/is jailed for fraud/has to repay the state the money he "stole" from them then her lawsuit won't get her a dime from him.

    I'm thinking real world versus perfect world.
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    Like everything...two sides to this coin also. I can certanly see Trem's point of view that it could be taking away from someone truly needy. Yet, it does seem like it is more about payback or bitterness over the way things ended up in the relationship.

    Two questions: One, if you really feel it is the right thing to do to report it, can it be done without giving your name? Two, if he does discover it came from you, can you personally stand up to scrutiny that may come your way? For example, are you claiming all income to the State and IRS in case he decides to retaliate?

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    I say do it, I get so sick to my stomach when people do shit like that. It takes away from people that really need it! And maybe make a statment with the police that your doing this and worried he may mess with your car so if he does something to it you already have your concerns recorded
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    I don't like what he's doing but I see no need for you to try to be a hero here. I have a relative on disability who truly is disabled and believe me, they give her no end of trouble to keep getting that small check. Every so often they re-evaluate her and try to push her to do work she is not physically or mentally able to do and attempt to stop her benefits.

    They will watch him closely and I'm sure they will get him for fraud before long, without your help.


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    Yeah, I can see all pov mentioned here, reporting for a good cause, but then you put yourself @ risk..
    I would think hard about, b/c as mentioned you're at risk, +, no matter how you watch yourself, there's always an outside chance..
    If I WAS going to do it, I would wait awhile (months @ least) for things to die down.
    I'm not disagreeing w/what's said, but w/all the cutbacks everywhere, I think more ppl get away w/stuff.


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    Yes you should because it does take away from those who need it. I've known a few people who were disqualified for disability though they were disabled and part of the reason is because there are people like him abusing the system. I have reported friends of mine who were abusing the welfare system because my taxes keep going up to support them and it means someone who needs it can't.

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    Nope, I don't think you should. It sounds weird, but I think reporting him is bad karma. Yes, what he's doing is taking advantage of the system, but I don't think that you should feel that it's your responsibility to meddle.

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    He is your ex....you are done with him....

    Be done with him, dont give him another thought.

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    Quote Originally Posted by laurielegs View Post
    I have a relative on disability who truly is disabled and believe me, they give her no end of trouble to keep getting that small check. Every so often they re-evaluate her and try to push her to do work she is not physically or mentally able to do and attempt to stop her benefits.

    They will watch him closely and I'm sure they will get him for fraud before long, without your help.
    Seriously - it isn't a cakewalk to get disability (I guess it depends on where you are, cant vouch for Canada though), you're reviewed regularly and have to have Drs approval. I have a few relatives who *should* be on disability but the application process is too strenuous and invasive so they gave up.

    Also not to state the obvious but not all disabilities are "visible" or "obvious", uh, so the immediate assumption he is cheating the system is.... flawed. Sorry guys, put your pitchforks and torches away.

    The question should be "how do I get over my ex?", because if you had closure doing this and putting yourself possibly at risk would never occur to you. You haven't spoken to him for months & don't live near him, how do you even know (like reliably) he is still on it?

    Stop checking up on him and move on.





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    Don't do it. It's none of your business. Move on.

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    I'd report it to the cops and tell them where he goes to the gym. They can handle it or not but you did your duty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sia View Post
    Nope, I don't think you should. It sounds weird, but I think reporting him is bad karma. Yes, what he's doing is taking advantage of the system, but I don't think that you should feel that it's your responsibility to meddle.
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    Seriously? I'm sure you won't be ringing the authorities and saying "make sure he knows it was me that reported him".
    What have you done or said for him to jump to the conclusion it would you that reported him and not someone else or them just doing their routine checks and catching him out?
    Personally If i knew they were absolutely cheating the system I'd be making that phone call. The authorities know how to deal with morons that cheat and make sure that no-one with a legitimate claim is disadvantaged by spiteful exes making false accusations.

    (edit; i didn't mean that to sound like you're a spiteful ex, just saying they do checks, they don't cut people off on the say so of an anonymous caller.)

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    You only dated him for three months, and its been two months since you talked to him...why do you even remember his name? I wouldn't date someone on disability infact I dumped a bf over something like that but I agree that's just being nosey. Save anonymous tips for murder and child abuse cases. If your going to do it you should atleast stand by your conviction and not hide it.

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    If you are aware of fraudulent activity, you should report it, without regard to any relationship you may have or have not had to the perpetrator.

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    First - what KIND of disability? A private insurance company/workers comp, or social security/federal or state aid? What happened to get him on it in the first place? Or did he just apply for it for the purpose of cheating the system?

    It's a sensitive topic to me, seeing as I've been on workers comp disability for the last 20 months. I shouldn't have been on it for so long - but it wasn't ME extending it, it was the insurance company fighting treatment every step of the way. If I had gone and tried to find a job I could do, I would have lost the ability to reopen the case later, and would not have received a settlement for a disability rating - which they also fucked me over on. Yet really, I'm not that badly hurt compared to many. Some people might see me day to day, and think I was cheating the system, when in fact their system is responsible for keeping me in the situation. They could have approved surgery 18 months ago and I would have been essentially better (barring complications from surgery) a year ago and back to wok. Instead, they've paid out almost $100,000 over just under 2 years for my monthly checks, a small settlement, and paying for school for my vocational rehabilitation - in ADDITION to the cost of what medical treatment I did manage to receive - and I'm still fucking hurt, and they're trying to screw me out of even my pain meds now.

    I guess I have a different outlook, lol. I work on my yard, do handyman crap around the house - so some would say I'm not hurt. But projects that should take 3 weeks take 2 months, projects that should be an afternoon take all week, 20 minute jobs take a couple of hours. My sex life isn't half of what it was, I get next to no sleep, and I'm in constant pain. I certainly don't feel like I cheated, lol.

    If he's outright cheating the system, especially a state or federal one, report him. If it's on ongoing case with an insurance company - he's probably acting on advice from his lawyers, as I have been, and it may not be HIM delaying things.

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    AJ: I am sorry to hear you're going/& have gone thru all that..& thanks for the different perspective on this topic..
    I was on a disability from work, awhile back, somewhat similar story..they wanted me to keep working, w/swollen hand, after a crazed person attacked me on the job.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kisca View Post
    ^ Yes thats not a problem, all my taxes are claimed for each year

    Im in Canada, I have known people on welfare for many years and working without welfare knowing and they havnt been discovered. I highly doubt they will check into him, ones you're accepted they pretty much let you off unless you have high movements in the bank.

    This alone tells me that you were considering doing it out of spite. If you felt so inclined to do the 'right' thing you would report these people, too. Yet you have not, for years.

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    Hell yes you should report him.

    Anyone that is lying and breaking the law in this manner should be reported. We all pay for these bums.

    That shit pisses me off.

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    Hells yes report him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kisca View Post
    Spite? Spite of what? I didnt have any feelings for him. I find it wrong when people cheat the system and he is. Is it right to get 2 grand from the gov't because you can. You stated your opinion ones, I dont need another one from you.
    I don't know about the whole spite thing you will more than I do. I'm just pointing out stuff you said. You try to make it sound as if this weighs so heavily on your conscience when you already know of other people living off the gov. but you didn't care to report them... So the spite, you should know and identify why you have this.

    Last time I checked there was nothing wrong with posting more than once on a thread. If you don't want opinions don't put shit up on a public forum.

    Oh and is that a question? Is it right to get 2k from the gov. because I can? Ummm, yeah, if its like a tax return I guess.

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