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    Default Help-Can't hustle in Seattle only 3 days left

    I have been doing this for about 7 years, and I CRIED because of all the fucking rejections.

    It seems no matter what I do or say, I keep getting told "maybe later, not right now". And when I go back later, they've already gotten dances with another girl or tell me flat out No.

    I don't understand why. It's not because the girls have regulars; I've asked. There are a few, but not enough to account for the sheer amount of dances and money going around.

    Here's an example of a conversation:

    "Hi there. I'm savannah. What's you're name" smile smile, reach around and touch seductively.

    "I'm Jon. How's you're night going?"

    Ill tell him great or whatever, and ask him too. He'll normally reply it's going well. Then I either pitch my sale or ask to sit. Half the time they don't even want to let me sit with them. But if they do I'll slide onto his lap or cuddle next to him and talk about the music or something he likes to do or about traveling (they ask if I've worked there long and I'll tell them no, I'm new to this club but have danced in several states). Eventually I'll maneuver the conversation around to dances, and they'll say "No, not right now, maybe later".

    There are a lot of Indian and Asian and Hispanic guys too. Many of the customers are IT guys or Engineers. I try to keep the conversations focused on them and on flattering them and making them feel good. But this doesn't seem to work. I even tried being "fun" and "party-girl" and that didn't seem to work well either.

    I just don't understand what's going on...

    It's not my look; even the less well-put together girls and heavier girls sold more. Even the girl who has only danced for 4 days sold more.

    If anyone knows Seattle or this area and can give me some insight into how to hustle here, I'd really appreciate it.

    Oh, and this same thing happened to me in New Orleans too. and that really sucked.
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    Default Re: Help-Can't hustle in Seattle only 3 days left

    I'm sorry to hear that.. I worked for half a night a one club and the same thing happened to me, too. I quit right then. Have you tried to watch the other girls to see if you can spot a certain pattern that the girls who sell all seem to be doing? Sometimes it's just that your frustration "vibes off" to the customers you know what I mean?

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    Default Re: Help-Can't hustle in Seattle only 3 days left

    I know frustration vibes and guys sensing desperation. I don't think I give off that "scent". I've watched and most of the girls do a short hustle-half a song to a song, at most three.


    Maybe I really can't hustle.....
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    Default Re: Help-Can't hustle in Seattle only 3 days left

    One good night would bring that confidence back for sure!

    Don't focus on what the other girls are making (I know we always say that).

    But seriously- Don't! If you are out there working 6 nights or whatever, and you average 250 per night... that is 1500 bucks:-) That is a decent week anywhere. I mean, if you were at home you wouldn't be able to focus entirely on work. So there you are getting that 1500 this week.

    250-300 is pretty average anywhere and right now you have the benefit that you don't have home distractions so you can just work every night. I think it still sounds worth it!

    I work very hard in the phx/tucson area for an average these days of 250-300 per night if that makes you feel any better!

    When I am surrounded by people making more money I just tell myself that they are going to blow it anyway on drugs or clothes or whatever. I will take my 300 bucks and put it towards something great.

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    Default Re: Help-Can't hustle in Seattle only 3 days left

    I think I sound spoiled and whiny here and I'm sorry if I am coming across like that. I just really NEED to figure this out and make money. I know we all say that, but my last remaining pet needs surgery And plus kennel costs for the move to Japan adds up to almost $5000 on top of normal expenses associated with a move coinciding with holidays.
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    Default Re: Help-Can't hustle in Seattle only 3 days left

    Isn't Mediocrity in Seattle? I'm sure she'd have some tips!!

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    Default Re: Help-Can't hustle in Seattle only 3 days left

    ^^ She's at my sister club, I'm doing what I can!

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    Default Re: Help-Can't hustle in Seattle only 3 days left

    It's true I can be high strung.

    Botm, you have a good point that maybe getting rejected so much can turn guys off. And getting stressed about it won't help like Desu said.

    I'll try to chill out and keep my anxiousness to myself LOL.

    I've worked in 8 clubs and I'm probably forgetting one or two. I don't think it's the traveling stressing me. It's that this time I really do need the money. That's what's working me up.
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    Default Re: Help-Can't hustle in Seattle only 3 days left

    Try hustling VIP. I've worked in Seattle for several years and it's not at all common for half the girls to be making $500 or more per shift. I've seen that on a GOOD night but normally? No. Most dancers don't make more than a few hundred if they're lucky.

    That being said, most Seattle dancers don't know or don't want to sell VIP. I make majority of my money in Seattle from VIP sales. Most customers are harassed for dances but not something "more private." I get tons of guys in the back because I'm the only dancer that asked for VIP.

    Also, don't think that the dancer counter is an accurate representation of how much girls are making. Girls could be sitting on a customers lap for five songs and be marked for it. Girls also may undercharge (I've heard of it in Seattle clubs).

    Don't stress yourself out and don't check the dance sheet. I'm pretty sure I know what club you work at and they are stupid stupid stupid for allowing dancers to see the sheet.

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    Default Re: Help-Can't hustle in Seattle only 3 days left

    Quote Originally Posted by NREXM View Post
    Also, don't think that the dancer counter is an accurate representation of how much girls are making. Girls could be sitting on a customers lap for five songs and be marked for it. Girls also may undercharge (I've heard of it in Seattle clubs).

    Don't stress yourself out and don't check the dance sheet. I'm pretty sure I know what club you work at and they are stupid stupid stupid for allowing dancers to see the sheet.
    This is slightly OT but I recently worked a few shifts at a club that posted monthly private dance stats for all 75-100 of the girls on staff (top earners avg per shift, everyone's total dances that month, most dances in a night) which I found to be seriously messed up! Knowing/thinking about what other girls make always screws up my hustle personally.
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    Default Re: Help-Can't hustle in Seattle only 3 days left

    Honestly, Idk if it helps or hinders me to know stats. At my home club, it motivattes me to out-earn the whores. But when I travel, I think it stresses me out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NREXM View Post
    That being said, most Seattle dancers don't know or don't want to sell VIP. I make majority of my money in Seattle from VIP sales. Most customers are harassed for dances but not something "more private." I get tons of guys in the back because I'm the only dancer that asked for VIP.
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    ^^^Good advice! This is very true, especially at Vu clubs. When I worked at a Vu they really downplayed the VIP since the club took a cut.


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    ^^ I've noticed even though at my club we sell more rooms than almost any club, we still don't sell as many as we COULD. I always think VIP is the way to go, especially since the cut is low. Less work, more $$.

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    Ahh I have some friends working there. I've heard that one is fairly decent, but Rick's just opened, and Pandora's not that long ago, all very close by. I imagine its tough. But go in with a great attitude and really emphasize the VIPs. I think you can do it.
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    I've said it before and I will say it again: Seattle is not the place to make a strip trip.

    It's is a highly competitive market.

    What made you decide to come to Seattle any how? And how the hell did you end up dancing just outside of Seattle? What made you pick that club? That would not have been even my third or fourth choice to work at.

    There has never been positive comments on how great the Seattle area is for dancing. Not lately or in the past.

    Lately (last few years) a lot of Seattle girls have been going to Portland or Vegas to dance, or they escort or do private shows.

    And yes I agree $300 in Seattle on any night is shitty. Yes you have to hustle in half a song or less like you said.

    I've watched and most of the girls do a short hustle-half a song to a song,
    Welcome to the Seattle area.

    (And most of the time I can do it in 30 seconds or less. But that's another story.)




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    Really?? I make 300$ on my absolute worst nights ever.....I dance in Central jersey.....

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    Default Re: Help-Can't hustle in Seattle only 3 days left

    I dance at two clubs, currently. When i start to have 300$ or less nights at a club more than a few times i go to a new place...One nude club..GGR...and one bikini go-go bar titillations....GGR is really good money wise, but really high contact. no sex. i honestly prefer to work during the week. I get really over welmed from all the girls and customers on the weekends i typically leave with the same amount 500-1000$ ne shift...monday....or friday...its how hard you want to work there...the shifts are long but if u love money then f it....and tits is awesome...the girls are 9-10s , a lot of russians...they dont really promote tats but ive seen girls with them...they also prefer tall n thin...you can make 400-900$ house fee low sell tons of dances as one of the only americANS there...thats how a lot of nj clubs are now.....but I always get bored...I have never worked anywhere else i thought of travelling to guam and other places but recently found ggr...i still research vegas and texas just for fun and to get away.....ggr loves to hire travelling girls and have a deal with a local hotel i think?

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    Oh and even though dances are bikini, girls regularly flashed their tits and kitty while facing the customer, several I saw allowing guys finger-bang them and suck on their tits, and many allowed boobies grabbing. So overall, I'd say medium contact depending on personal preferance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DesuvsDeath View Post
    Yeah... I'm from a rediculously high contact area where I see 9's and 10's struggling to break $100 some nights. Girls without regulars are typically thrilled with a $300 AVERAGE.
    So I agree with BOTM on this one. Places where $300 is a SHITTY night... are GOOD places to work.

    It all depends on where you're working, really.
    I moved out here from somewhere I used to scoff at $300, too.
    This, exactly. Colorado is a great example. Colorado Springs is struggling bit Denver and further north are doing well. Even then it depends on the club-girls working at diamonds or shotguns could easily outearn those at, say, player's club. And right now player's club dancers probably outearn the majority of Colorado Springs dancers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by papillonluvr View Post
    Oh and even though dances are bikini, girls regularly flashed their tits and kitty while facing the customer, several I saw allowing guys finger-bang them and suck on their tits, and many allowed boobies grabbing. So overall, I'd say medium contact depending on personal preferance.
    This is why although it's a good money club, LC isn't my first recommendation. You have to be an above average or advanced hustler. The downtown clubs are a lot cleaner (particularly G's club).

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