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    Default Cam girls, if you find your videos online...

    ...and they were posted by this LiveViolet, send me a PM.

    I have narrowed mine down as being posted by one of two members. Neither has changed his name. I have tagged them.

    My video was posted the same day the show was recorded, it's about the same length as the session, and it was posted within the hour.

    Lets compare notes.

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    love ur investigative work jess awesome
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    Default Re: Cam girls, if you find your videos online...

    Quote Originally Posted by Cam_Model_Jess View Post
    ...and they were posted by this LiveViolet, send me a PM.

    I have narrowed mine down as being posted by one of two members. Neither has changed his name. I have tagged them.

    My video was posted the same day the show was recorded, it's about the same length as the session, and it was posted within the hour.

    Lets compare notes.
    LV could have gotten it directly from Streamate as a promo tool. Thats what I think happened... LV IS a white label after all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GlamourRouge View Post
    LV could have gotten it directly from Streamate as a promo tool. Thats what I think happened... LV IS a white label after all.
    I went on to LiveViolet and it's basically an exact copy of streamates. I had 2 windows open, one with SM and one with LV and it's the exact same thing, right down to who in on line now. Only difference was the color scheme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LusciousKatya View Post
    I went on to LiveViolet and it's basically an exact copy of streamates. I had 2 windows open, one with SM and one with LV and it's the exact same thing, right down to who in on line now. Only difference was the color scheme.
    thats what a white label is
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    Ugh darn those pirates..

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    Default Re: Cam girls, if you find your videos online...

    According to Streamate, this is not their doing. If they're lying, then ok they're lying. But I'm gonna go ahead and go on the assumption that they're not lying and I'm going to block the two customers who were in my room for that particular session on that particular day for that particular length of time.

    A video of me was posted and I'm doing something about it. I'm asking for help from ladies on here to help me do something about it.

    If you would like to compare notes with me so we can narrow down this member from my TWO members to one shared member between the two of us (more models giving input will make this easier), then let's do it.

    So... that's what this is. A thread about ladies being proactive when something like this happens, a thread about helping one another find a solution and isolate a member who is stealing content.

    Thanks, ladies.

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    Default Re: Cam girls, if you find your videos online...

    While its great youre trying to do something about stolen content Jess, but in this context you are mistaken. Live Violet is a whitelabel site. If you go to their contact page you'll see at the bottom Streamates info.

    A white label is basically the same site under a different wrapper. SM gives them all the links, info, vids, etc to promote it. It is not the member who took you prvt that posted the clip to the pirate/tube sites but rather Liveviolets doing to get people to come to the liveviolet site. Does that make any sense?

    Again it wasnt SM, they didnt post your clip, it wasnt the member, he didnt post your clip. It was Liveviolet- a SM whitelabel.

    In most cases of whitelabels you can contact the parent company SM, like kittykrane did and have your stuff excluded from there if requested and they feel like obliging.

    But banning the member whos session it was its going to do nothing but perhaps make you lose a regular.

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    I will happily compare notes - I'm on there and am trying to figure out the member name - PM me if you wish
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    Somebody call the WAHHHHmbulance.

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    hrm I just found mine
    it's now showing as 'no nickname' and if I click on it 'information about this member is not available' so he's obviously changed his name or deleted his account. Turns out I can't help after all
    Quote Originally Posted by HaydenBlue View Post
    Somebody call the WAHHHHmbulance.

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    mine was definitely a recorded and paid for show. The minute count is exactly the same and the user has since deleted his account or changed his name - indicating that it was the member and it was not given to him by SM. I even remember the guy being a bit weird cos he wanted a slow stip but then wouldn't say anything ...
    Quote Originally Posted by HaydenBlue View Post
    Somebody call the WAHHHHmbulance.

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    I have members who show up as NoNickname & they pay me all the time. It's just something weird abt their acct. I don't know what.

    Thanks to everyone who is posting info but we don't know who authorized posting these videos until someone admits to it. So far, SM is denying it. If they're doing it, they have no reason to deny it b/c they can do whatever they want. But if SM tells me that they're the ones doing it, then I'll tell everyone so you can be aware.

    So far, 3 ladies comparing notes have come up w/ 3 different member names. And mine hasn't changed his name since he left the show. I take really good notes & was actually streaming from somewhere different that day, so I'm confident abt when the vid was taken.

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    Excuse the threadjack but I wanted to share something that worked for me. I kept finding myself on user submitted porn forums. At first I tried demanding the site take it down. They did, only after I threatened to take legal action. I realized these sites truly don't give a shit if users own the content they submit and that clause in the T&C is just to cover their own ass.

    Low and behold, not too long after, I saw more videos of me smh. I just decided to join the forums under my cam name and politely ask the USER to remove my videos. I post at least once a week, commenting in random threads just to make my presence known. Haven't seen myself on either forum (phun and homegrown) again!

    Can't beat em, join em. Literally.
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    Default Re: Cam girls, if you find your videos online...

    Quote Originally Posted by Cam_Model_Jess View Post
    According to Streamate, this is not their doing. If they're lying, then ok they're lying. But I'm gonna go ahead and go on the assumption that they're not lying and I'm going to block the two customers who were in my room for that particular session on that particular day for that particular length of time.

    A video of me was posted and I'm doing something about it. I'm asking for help from ladies on here to help me do something about it.

    If you would like to compare notes with me so we can narrow down this member from my TWO members to one shared member between the two of us (more models giving input will make this easier), then let's do it.

    So... that's what this is. A thread about ladies being proactive when something like this happens, a thread about helping one another find a solution and isolate a member who is stealing content.

    Thanks, ladies.
    Jess, where are the vids posted? Wanted to see if my were posted as well. Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lusty Laken View Post
    So if there are 100s of white labels out there, they can all legitimately post your content where they want?
    Yes. And they do. Its just hard to come across because they likely aren't labeling them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BritishBecky View Post
    mine was definitely a recorded and paid for show. The minute count is exactly the same and the user has since deleted his account or changed his name - indicating that it was the member and it was not given to him by SM. I even remember the guy being a bit weird cos he wanted a slow stip but then wouldn't say anything ...
    That doesn't matter. Streamate records EVERYTHING and can legally distribute it all regardless of who purchased the show.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalypso View Post
    Excuse the threadjack but I wanted to share something that worked for me. I kept finding myself on user submitted porn forums. At first I tried demanding the site take it down. They did, only after I threatened to take legal action. I realized these sites truly don't give a shit if users own the content they submit and that clause in the T&C is just to cover their own ass.

    Low and behold, not too long after, I saw more videos of me smh. I just decided to join the forums under my cam name and politely ask the USER to remove my videos. I post at least once a week, commenting in random threads just to make my presence known. Haven't seen myself on either forum (phun and homegrown) again!

    Can't beat em, join em. Literally.
    Interesting way to deal with that. I'll look into it. I'm not sure that you can actually become a member of the sites I've been posted on, but I'll look.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LusciousKatya View Post
    Jess, where are the vids posted? Wanted to see if my were posted as well. Thanks!
    Sorry, I'm not trying to be rude, but I'm not going to post that info here. I hope you understand why not.

    You can certainly search for yourself online. Also, there's another thread started by Buffy. She let us know that someone named Live Violet is the one posting the videos.

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    Default Re: Cam girls, if you find your videos online...

    I'm not a professional at this stuff by any means. So when I post updates here, it's not because I like to argue with people who have a differing opinion of what's going on. I know you don't agree with me. That's ok. Because I'm admitting that I don't know and that I'll post when I know something concrete.

    Apparently this is not at all constructive.

    I'm only trying to help others and get some actual factual information if anyone has it. However, from this point on I'll contain this topic to PMs with those I'm already in contact with.

    Peace ladies. I hope you have a great holiday and make lots of money.
    Last edited by Cam_Model_Jess; 11-23-2011 at 12:48 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cam_Model_Jess View Post
    I have some updated info, and it's really looking like SM did NOT give this guy permission to post these. I am going to be working on this further this week.

    I will let you ladies know when I have something more concrete. And if I find out exactly who he is and what the whole situation is, I'll post specifics for everyone to see.
    Sorry, but I'm pretty sure they are just saying that so they aren't liable for anything. What are the odds that this guy spends his money on shows when he can already get all the promo vids he wants from streamate for 100% free?

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    well as of today.. im watermarking my feeds. dnt know if its a perk of the studio im with but i can now put my name(no urls) in my video feed while streaming on sm.. no complaints there as i can't do it on other sites
    still here.... just in another chapter..

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    Quote Originally Posted by bluexxxtasy View Post
    well as of today.. im watermarking my feeds. dnt know if its a perk of the studio im with but i can now put my name(no urls) in my video feed while streaming on sm.. no complaints there as i can't do it on other sites
    SM suspended MarleySade for a couple days because of that. They say you're not allowed to.

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    Default Re: Cam girls, if you find your videos online...

    Just an update. My video was removed when I reported it as a copyright violation.

    The form that the site requires asks for your real name and address. DON'T GIVE IT TO THEM.

    At the top of the form, in very small print, it says that the site will forward your info to whoever posted your video.

    I used my cam name and they removed the video. They never contacted me about the request, but I checked and the content is no longer there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GlamourRouge View Post
    SM suspended MarleySade for a couple days because of that. They say you're not allowed to.

    I watermark my feed with just my name.. no url or anything.. Is that grounds for suspension with SM?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lusty Laken View Post
    Has Marley posted that info anywhere herself?
    Maybe. I'm not sure, she told me in person or over the phone. You can ask her...

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