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    hi ladies

    well tonight was my second night on sm and made so little over the past two nights its hidieously embarassing so much so that i need your help on pointers on attracting the guys to pvts. i searched for this but cant find anything so advice would be great. i know its not a get rich quick job but i do need the cash to pay debts off etc so please help

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    Default Re: in major need of help with icing and a cherry on top!

    what are you offering? do you offer sound and phone? do you use the hd encoder? what's your internet speed like? what's your computer processor like? do you have toys? are you using a good cam with proper settings?

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    offering everything but anal, offer sound and phone sound is pvt and phone exclusive, tried using the hd encoder but its so tricky so i use the hd setting on the drop down menu where if gives you a choice of streaming, my processor is brand new with windows seven on it, yup have toys too and my cam i bought today its the philips one new and such good quality its rated better then the logictech one! so i dont get why im not getting privates but its given me a bit of a downer tbh and i really dont need one of those at the mo either.

    btw i smile and dance etc too and chat, always friendly but so many just pop in and out like a flash its annoying. also i have noticed that the streaming cuts out alot, i know its not me cos im streaming tv fine at the same time and have messaged sm about this issue xx
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    that's awesome using the encoder will probably boost things a lot for you if you can figure out the settings. also upgrading your flash to 11.2, the new beta version - the current version of flash is causing a lot of streaming issues on streamate. i would recommend not doing anything else on the computer (like streaming tv) at the same time you're camming as that will help improve your streaming quality.

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    you should not be streaming tv at the same time you are hosting. That's going to eat up too much bandwidth.

    Also don't give away too much in free chat. Some guys are going to sit there and cum watching you dance. Often I do best by giving very little attention in free chat and just a bit of flirting to entice them to go private.

    Honestly you are probably going to need to get your HD encoder up and running. The one on the dropdown list doesn't even affect your placement on the site.


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    Default Re: in major need of help with icing and a cherry on top!

    Also, sometimes things are just slow. 2 days isn't really enough time to determine whether Streamate is right for you. You might find things are better at different times or days also.

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    thanks ladies. i will live and learn at some point lol i will try your method laurie legs next time i am on and tinydancer how do i upgrade my flash. i have tried streaming using the encoder but find it really confusing i followd the instructions to set it up but then dont kow how it works from there! me and technology dont get on so the simpler the better imho lol.

    oh i have the tv on so that i have something to listen to and also so the flatmates dont here me (prob with being a student lol) and i find music gets boring after a while

    thanks for all your help ladies its really appriciated xx
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    download flash 11.2 here

    follow all the instructions on the site for adjusting the settings, then when you go to stream, click 'external encoding' on the drop down. click 'start my show' and a window will pop up with two urls. paste the two urls in the corresponding boxes in the encoder window and then press the green start button at the bottom of the encoder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by malika29 View Post
    oh i have the tv on so that i have something to listen to and also so the flatmates dont here me (prob with being a student lol) and i find music gets boring after a while
    are u sure ur customers don't mind you watching/listening to tv...
    since its coming thru the computer and ur mic is probably in/on ur computer im sure they can hear whatever ur watching really good. that might be annoying to them. not annoying enough that they will say hey turn that tv off. but annoying enough that they're just like "eh next girl"
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    Default Re: in major need of help with icing and a cherry on top!

    Maybe it's just my paranoia, but I feel like if I ignore the chat for more than 30 seconds my room numbers will start to drop (like if I'm trying to find a song to play and I have the chat window minimized) so there's no way I could watch TV while on cam.

    Are you only using sound while in private? You might want to consider turning it on during free chat. I don't think there are very many 1st page hosts on SM who don't stream with sound 100% of the time.
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    Good advice right there, but also I should add - how long are you staying online for each session? When I started on SM, I would sometimes go 40 full minutes of room hoppers before I got my first private, its hard at first to hold on, but getting that paid time boosts your ranking and star score.

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    ok i have my mic off in free so they cant here the tv then i pause/switch it off when in private so they still cant hear it. i would have a normal tv if my mum hadnt forgot to bring it with her when she last visited lol and in fairness i only really listen to it, not watch it fully when im on cam.

    i would have had a private in the first min or so being on today if the bloody thing hadnt frozen up, i know some of you have said this is happening to you too and i know its not me cos the tv is still streaming fine when sm is freezing up and i haved messaged them about it. then after getting it started again would have had another two privates within about five mins if it hadnt frozen yet again (tv still working though!)

    humm will have to think of something else in the background then to play so the fms dont here me in action. lets just say im not a screamer but bet they can still here me as i can here them talking on the phone, on another note in fairness we do have no shame in this house as you can here them and thier bfs go at it like rabbits and yes they are all screamers lol as where i like to keep my sex life quiet hehe

    thanks again for the help it means alot xx
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    You know what helps me a lot when I'm bored? Silly, but icanhazcheezburger types of sites. They keep a smile on my face, take up little screen and little bandwidth.
    Oh and when I don't want to be too noisy, I try to coax custies into doing phone "so i can whisper naughty things into their ears. Really intimate baby, it will be just like being on the same bed". They eat that up and ask for more! lol

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    oh wow sybil thank you ever so much! god i thought i had brains but apparently not lol xx
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    I'm pretty sure when downloading (streaming TV) and uploading (SM vid feed) that the download takes priority in the bandwidth because it is what is more important to most internet users. I understand it freezes occasionally on it's own too.

    So, I use a wireless mouse and keyboard, the guys don't see anything for free (I won't even stand for free), my rule is if you've paid to see me naked you can make a request in free like see what panties I have on, etc. I'm in chatzy and I play pandora, plus I'll play either minesweeper or solitaire. I have all my screens staggered just right so I keep things where I want them.

    I couldn't get the encoder to run right for me at first either and then one of the girls posted to alter the setting and it's worked ever since. Can't remember where that was, but here's where mine are at:
    Frame Rate 10
    Bit rate 350
    and the audio bit rate is at 20

    My encoder hardly ever drops now.

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    The encoder seems confusing, but once you get the hang of it, its really easy! It also has a HUGE impact on your placement. Use it.

    The other really big thing is using sound all the time - in free chat as well.

    If you are new - have you checked your upload speed? If yo just have "normal" internet, the upload speed is often FAR too low. It means that your cam will lag and freeze, which is no good! Use speedtest.net to figure it out. You can also open your cammodels.com profile in another window when you start streaming in order to double check your sound, lighting and if you are lagging at all.

    I would also make sure you greet every guy that comes in. When you have high traffic, this makes no sense, because you end up just sitting listing names as they come in, but if you only have a couple guys in your room, then say Hi to them!!

    And two days is really not long at ALL. I think my first night I worked 4 hours and made $20!! I'm not sure what you are considering to be so little....but I understand if you don't want to post earnings!
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    see im really no techy but from what i remember with my wifi its upload is 40mb and download is unlimited though it does still trip out on occasions as im still having issues with the provider. however i know its not the net cutting out as the messages are all from sm saying something like they cant stream currently or words to that affect and contact the support team. ive done the speed test thing and it says its good so thats ok

    next time in on (hopefully this evening depending on how much study is done!) i will use the encoder and sound and see what happens oh and no tv on lol

    thanks again ladies you have been a huge help! xx
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    Quote Originally Posted by malika29 View Post
    see im really no techy but from what i remember with my wifi its upload is 40mb and download is unlimited though it does still trip out on occasions as im still having issues with the provider.
    Does this number sound really off to anyone else? Like - INSANELY high? The highest upload speed available from my provider is 15mbps, and that costs over $100 a month...I would assume that either you are at 4mbps which is still pretty damn high, or maybe 400kbps....which is really low! LOL

    Seriously - double check on speedtest. Its free and only takes a second, and could save you a whole lot of trouble.

    Oh, and BTW, even when you get error messages like "streamate cannot connect" that doesn't necessarily mean it is their error.
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    Does the encoder really work with 350 bitrate? Mine is at 800 bitrate, 350 seems so low!

    You have to ooze confidence and make the guys think that your show is the best show they will ever see! Back when I cammed on SM over a year ago I would literally work 8 hours a day to make 75$.... 75$ was the highest I ever made on that site. I took a break from camming completely for about 7 months and came back and now if I am not making 60$ an hour something seems really wrong. I haven't really changed anything besides I gave myself a major confidence boost and just made myself more appealing to the guys and it worked me. Don't give too much away for free, I see so many girls on SM, especially Romanian girls, who just dance and flash boobs and leave boobs out and flash pussy the whole time they are in free. Could you imagine how many guys are getting off to that crap for free? I never do that. The most I do is show my ass once in a while and that's about it.

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    If you are on wifi i doubt your upload is anywhere near that fast hon. I'm paying 150 a month for cable/internet and mine is only 5 mb upload, which is considered pretty fast for my area.


    If you really want to do well you need to stop uploading or downloading anything at all while you are working. Wifi is way slower than a wired connection and you need to dedicate 100% of your bandwidth to your work which is transmitting video.
    I would never try to work from wifi personally. Way too slow and the connection tends to drop. Have that happen during a lot of privates and you may lose a great customer.

    Download some mp3s if you really have to have music and play them, or play some CDs. I find I do way better without music but everyone is different.

    Pay attention to your chat room and really treat this like a job and you won't have time to be bored or watch TV because you will be in private with great regulars who spend lots of money. It always seems odd to me when someone talks about watching TV while camming. If you don't treat camming like a real job it will never pay you like a real job.


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    here are my encoder settings (per the site):

    Preset: Custom
    Format: H.264
    Frame Rate: 12.00
    Input: 640x480
    Bit Rate: 650kbps Output: 640 x 480
    Check the Deinterlace box

    Format: mp3
    Channels: mono
    Sample: 11025
    Bit Rate: 20

    Panel Options: Output
    Check auto adjust and drop frames

    Once you do all that, go to the top of the encoder screen and click on the File Menu. Then choose "save profile" choose a name like "Streamate" or something you'll remember. The next time you use the encoder, it should all just come up, but if it doesn't, you can go to File -> Open profile so you don't have to reset it

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    right my upload is 20mb its another provider that does it at 40 and you can get some with 50! got to have wifi in the house as we all need the net for study but and i dont have a phoneline in me room so its in the living room.

    will have to practise the confidence thing too as im not big on confidance atm or think im pretty enough to really go far but thats a different matter.

    thanks again for the help ladies xx
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    Quote Originally Posted by malika29 View Post
    right my upload is 20mb its another provider that does it at 40 and you can get some with 50! got to have wifi in the house as we all need the net for study but and i dont have a phoneline in me room so its in the living room.

    will have to practise the confidence thing too as im not big on confidance atm or think im pretty enough to really go far but thats a different matter.

    thanks again for the help ladies xx
    I hate to point this out again, but normally you do not see 20 mb upload speeds with wifi. Download speed, yes, not upload speed.

    If you are actually getting that with wifi I would love to know who your provider is and what it costs for that. I have the fastest one offered here and it's nowhere near that. I get 150 download, but only 5 upload. Have you gone to speedtest and actually checked what your upload is or are you going by what you read from them?

    Your upload speed would be listed on the right side of the results on speedtest.net.

    Are you sure they are not referring to your download speeds? Upload is what matters for transmitting your video.


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    right did the test and d is 9.96 and up is 0.98 i dont see how i can have any other form of net other then wifi when i dont have a phone line in my room and we all need it for study too.
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    well using the encoder your upload needs a minimum of like .7 so when combined with streaming tv your video is probably lagging...
    lol wut?


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