


Doc, I love you. Your line, "I'm your daisy" kills me every time. It makes me a little sad that you look like that fat actor Val Kilmer, but hey, you're younger and sexier. Like Iceman.
But honestly... this post confuses me.
You show up for a job. Job = money. Therefore, you show up to make money.
Or am I missing something?
Pretty sure I'm there to make money. I'm there to dance on a stage while men throw money at me and to do private dances for predetermined amount of money.
Lending an ear, being company, fulfilling fantasies, talking... all of these things cost EXTRA. Because they involve going above and beyond my job description.
Jobs are a tool to make money and allow me to fulfill my selfish needs and wants.
I provide excellent service. It comes at a price. But I'm there for the money. Period.
As for it all being related to how I want to be treated: I want to be treated like a person who is providing a high quality product and does not have time for useless customer bullshit. I like customers who come in, pay for what they want, get it, and leave.




I don't know about others but if I'm telling someone at the club I'm there to make money its usually to some cheapass that thinks he can get my time and my body for free.. If the guy is paying for my time I don't say that.. if they are not paying enough I give a chance at a dance. If no go I tell them I'm in the mood to dance and leave to find someone who will take me to the LD room.
Maybe your not tipping enough...



Uh, I tip my favorite waitress way more than I do the nameless woman at Denny's. And my tip for my favorite barber hasn't changed in five years. Then again, he hasn't gotten naked.
How about this: treat them like dancers. Be polite. Always tip. Tip more for better service to show your appreciation of said better service.
Aside from that, let them worry about how they want to be treated. All you can control is how YOU treat them. So treat them well.




I do my best to treat each person as a person but also to treat my needs of the job. I go by my experience and senses and my senses are telling me that if I meet you at a club I wouldn't even give you a second look cause you rain self worth that you don't have and the lack of respect you show.






Doc, here's the thing: it's ALL about money, pal. Why do you think dancers put up with grabby hands, roaming fingers, licking, biting, tweaking, hitting, slapping, cocks whipping out, would-be rapists, emotionally abusive assholes, cum stains, self-important floaters, annoying DJs, terrible management, cold as shit air conditioning, drunk college kids, cheapskate millionaires, PUA wannabes, unfair tip-outs, long hours with no customers, and wannabe saviors?
It's a fucked up world we live in with fucked up customers.
Best you can do: don't be a fucked up customer. Dancers are there to make money. The better ones who have perfected the art form of sensuality and hustle make more. That's why they put up with all our shit. Accept it and move on or else find another hobby.
Of course we don't want to hear those words, just like we don't want to hear about their SOs or their children. When we hear talk about that it takes away from the fantasy of being in a club, and hanging out with a beautiful woman who is mostly (if not all) naked.
And I like being this customer. Not just in clubs either, but wherever I go.
Maybe you don't like the fact that dancers are only "there to make money" because you might not be there only "to get dances"? So basically I think you need to look more at your motivation to go into a club then theirs.
I'm almost perfect, some of the time
Success is getting what you want, happiness is wanting what you get.




Well then make the perfect stripclub.. Don't just be a rude twat telling us what we should do.. instead get your money and make a stripclub.. That way you can pick the girls, tell them how to act, tell them what they can't say. If you think you can perfect our work do it, open a club, and give classes.
.... what the hell?
hot flirting tips 2k13: tell him, “I’m not like other girls,” then pull down the secret zipper at the back of your neck to reveal your true reptilian form
Where's yoda when you need him...lol. learn the rules before you play
The other day at work I was chatting with this guy, and we had a good connection going on but he turned me down on the dance. I'd spent slightly more time than normal talking to him because, like I said, we had a good connection. So, when he turned down the dance I asked him for a tip.
He suddenly became very offended/upset (but not hostile) and the following exchange went something like this:
"Oh no, don't do that! No, no. Don't lower yourself to that level, asking for tips!"
"Do you see where we are right now? This is a strip club. I am a stripper. I get paid in tips."
(horrified) "OH NO! Don't call yourself a stripper!"
"But, I am a stripper. That's what I do, I don't need to call it anything else. And you are here, with me, in the strip club. So you need to get off your high horse about it."
And then I walked away.
This thread kind of reminds me of that.
hot flirting tips 2k13: tell him, “I’m not like other girls,” then pull down the secret zipper at the back of your neck to reveal your true reptilian form
To tell a woman her role in the club is so laughable...you are not there to make money..lol



My apologies if I got a little unhinged, but I'm trying to get you to see a concept you might be overlooking: by telling the dancers what they should aspire to, you ARE disrespecting them.
I wouldn't want you to come into my office and tell me, "Don't do it for the money, do it for the art!" You're implying that I don't care about what I do. You see?


While I admire your positivity for the job, I can't say the same for me. After nearly six years of bs from these guys I'm a bit bitter. I don't like my custies, not a single one. Sure, some of them may be nice and I may feel bad for the occasional guy who can't get a woman's attention unless he pays her, but overall I could care less if I make them happy or not. I think deep down I secretly resent them all for being there. I strip for the money and that's it. I'm not saying its all bad. I think talking, being complemented, drinking and dancing for pay is a pretty good deal, but I wouldn't glamorize the position like you have. There's nothing glamorous about it.
Yeah I find the original post very disrespectful and demeaning. Would you tell a "professional" who does any other profession not to work for money? Why do men think it's ok to say this to sex workers? I get that yes it ruins the fantasy for your fragile egos. If we are good at our jobs hopefully this won't happen and hopefully you won't confuse it with love. As a professional I provide a service which I expect to be compensated for. If you resent that you have to pay for that service, that is entirely your issue not mine. Don't you dare fucking tell me what my thoughts or motivations should be.





As Marlow Standfield said to a convenience store security guard in an episode of the Wire: You want it to be one way, but it's the other way.
You want the clubs to be all about the art of the stage performance, but it has been a very long time since that was the case. And when the stage was the main focus of clubs, there were fewer of them to begin with, and fewer services available in those clubs, as well as more limited adult entertainment spending options overall. Net-net, the environment back in the day was simply much more conducive to guys tipping a lot on stage than it is today. In most places, the girls simply cannot live on stage tips, regardless of how good their performances are.
I also think that you are a little confused about just who drives the wagon here. Highly skilled stage performances are largely gone now not because the girls are not pros and don't view themselves in the proper light, but because the demand for these types of performances is not what it used to be. It has always been about the money. However, since stage tipping is not what it used to be, they are now forced to focus their efforts elsewhere. Hell, there are a fair number of girls who would not get on the stage at all anymore if they were not required to do so.
Sorry to say it, but IMHO this dynamic is not going to change anytime soon. And your "perfect club" better include healthy shift pay for the dancers, because IMHO they won't be earning a fortune off of customers.
Anyway, just my![]()
Last edited by rickdugan; 12-07-2011 at 08:59 AM. Reason: spelling
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