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    LOVE LOVE LOVE the 60 day new girl period, ok? It's amazing. Then you log in one day and you are no longer a new girl and only have 100 ratings and wonder where you went wrong. Sure Im a 4 out of 5 stars but most of us newbies are unless we are doing something wrong.
    So, what do I do? I leave LJ. I want to go to a real site and I'm not sitting on free chat 12 hours a day just to 'go fish'
    Then I join another site and hear about all their nasty chargebacks. Ugghhh. Plus on LJ I was at 2.99 a min now this site Im on 0.99 a min. Again, Ugghhhh.
    I also join Chatterbate and dont care for how its all out there public (free chat/private keeps me safe from would be lurkers) and also hear that they dont respond to emails and dont pay as promised. Ugghhhh!
    I refuse to work for a site that asks my SSN. Thats just my choice. Lots of sites dont.
    So, here's where I stand.
    I have to be honest with myself and admit that Im not willing to do the work. I was a dancer for 6 years and after I had my son I was DONE with it and once you're done when you try to go back, they can smell it off you and your money takes a nose dive. I'm good at camming but I am finding out that it's REALLY HARD and TIME CONSUMING work and I dont think this is where I'm wanting to focus all my energy. Just wanted to add Im a single mom with a 5 year old and a 2 year old and one of them is autistic. So needless to say, I have little to no free time. I know camming is a great way for a single mom to get by and do well but I'd need to work from 11pm-4am and when Im up at 7am thats rough. Plus I have other income.
    I teach Yoga as my day job and Im thinking maybe sticking to my holistics is more my nitche.

    Yes I am discouraged! I'm gonna ride out this new girl phase and try to do everything I can to make sure I stay up on top as much as possible but if it doesn't pan out, it doesnt pan out.

    Can anybody offer me any advice, criticism, or insight? I want to make sure I have all the info so that I can make the best educated decision for me.

    Spank you!!

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    Chaturbate is a shit-tastic site to me i wouldn't waste my time there your better off join the site they pretty much ripped off MFC if you want to go down that road. I'm really not sure about which site's don't ask for SSN, so I can't really help you there but I'd try searching it. If one sites not working for you I'd move along to a new one, and I'd stray away from chaturbate.

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    ok, from what I've heard I'd say thats good advice and Im going to stay away from Chatturbate. Im on ImLive right now and omfg I logged in the first day and it was one request for private after the next and I was only on like 15 min just to check it out.
    I'm gonna ride out these 60 days then when Im dead and buried there, I'll find another site that doesnt ask my SSN. Like AW maybe.
    When I've new girled out all the sites I'll re-evaluate my dedication LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lusty Laken View Post
    Did you really expect it to be anything less than hard work and time consuming? Can you start, build and grow any other business without hard work and dedication? If you can name ONE, I would certainly like for you to share the secret so I can join in as well. Why would you feel that this business would be any different?

    I work, live, sleep, think, and breathe camming. It is my life. My job. My career for now until whenever I decide to go back out into the corporate world again. Maybe never. Who knows.

    I don't just sit on cam in my spare time, looking cute and smiling. I plan. I research. I decide and work on how to keep my private shows interesting. spend time trying to improve myself. I invest to keep myself healthy and attractive. I am my own tech support. I promote. I manage money and taxes. I am my own photographer. I am my own video/photo editor. I spend spare time building my own website. I cook. I clean. I take care of my family. I raise my offspring. I own and fully operate a nonprofit organization in my spare time. When I have spare time, I sleep.

    This is all after I cam a full time shift.

    I really. Really. Really. don't understand why so many people think this is just some easy get rich, lazy pie job.

    No, you're right. I humbly admit that it is a LOT more work than I thought it would be. And why do girls assume that it's get rich quick easy effortless work? Well for me I'd say $1,500 in my first LJ pay period led me to believe that. Research and an empty room after my newbie period ended proved otherwise.
    I really do give you props for being so dedicated. Me personally, I am acknowledging and accepting that Im not willing to do as much work as those of you have done. I know that you have worked very hard to get where you are and that's great.
    Im just trying to get all the facts before I decide wether this is or isnt for me.
    At least I'm being realistic and not blaming the site, the guys, the other girls, the time of day/night that I decide to work or many other excuses Im sure you've all heard.
    IMO it's like stripping which I LOVED and then retired from. I'd tell the newbies...after 3 weeks you'll love it or you'll hate it, either way you will know if this is for you or not.
    So, no reason to be snarky. I wasnt whining and Im not lazy. I devote as much time and effort to my private yoga practice as you do to your camming. I just dont think Im willing to devote that much time to THIS industry, but again...want to make sure I have the facts before I make this decision.

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    I had a response written but I erased it.

    **I am trying to be nicer to tax evaders and noobs who ask the same question over and over.

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    Go to streamate lilredridinhood. They have tons of traffic, and there are still a few pay periods before Christmas. Why waste time if you are not sure?

    Oh and it has been said on here many times that you only do well on LJ during the new period. So most of us stay away
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    Quote Originally Posted by BustyAmeera View Post
    Go to streamate lilredridinhood. They have tons of traffic, and there are still a few pay periods before Christmas. Why waste time if you are not sure?

    Oh and it has been said on here many times that you only do well on LJ during the new period. So most of us stay away
    Busty-She doesn't want to give out her SS# so SM won't work for her.

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    Ah ok lol. I didn't read that part. Sometimes I just skim read and miss some things..

    You do have to give out your social to every site as far as I know. I think I have worked about 6 or 7 sites and had to give them all my social.

    You don't want to get in trouble with the irs. Ask Wesley Snipes!
    Taking a break from all unproductive shit will prove to be the best choice you can make.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LAChloe View Post
    Busty-She doesn't want to give out her SS# so SM won't work for her.
    ^^^THIS is the reason why I'd say that camming is probably not the job for you. Put aside the ethical issues surrounding paying your fair share for services that we all enjoy, such as roads, the assurance that the water from our taps won't kill us, etc (I'm putting aside things like our tax dollars being spent putting racialized people in prisons and killing Brown people overseas for the moment, that's a whole other issue)
    You've mentioned a couple of times that you own your own business. Have you ever heard of an audit? Unless you plan to make very little money on cam (raising the question of what's the point if that's the case) you will have some rather large checks deposited into your bank account on a regular basis. Do you think the government will never notice? Trust me, they don't fuck around with people who are 'stealing' from them (which is how the gov looks upon tax-evaders).
    You've also mentioned that you have a differently-abled son...alot of services you may wish to avail yourself of, either now or in the future, are means-tested, which means opening up your financial records in order to receive the assistance you require. Trust me, whatever undeclared $$$ you earn from camming will cost you ALOT more in the long run, in both $$$ and grief than it would to just figure out a way to declare it in the first place.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BustyAmeera View Post
    Ah ok lol. I didn't read that part. Sometimes I just skim read and miss some things..

    You do have to give out your social to every site as far as I know. I think I have worked about 6 or 7 sites and had to give them all my social.

    You don't want to get in trouble with the irs. Ask Wesley Snipes!
    ^^ Exactly this ^^ If you're trying to avoid paying taxes, or just don't want to give out your SS#, that's fine. But you can't expect them to pay you if you don't >.< I really don't know of ANY sites that don't make you give them that information before you can get paid by them.

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    i get needing to live under the table for the sake of disability benefits (if that's your situation, i don't want to assume wrongly if it's not - i am disabled and have a lot of friends who are disabled or have family members who are who are in that situation and have also done sex work to get by) but wanted to echo what others have said. in order to make good money camming it's going to have to happen over the table - most of the sites that operate under are shady and unreliable. and getting audited is a nightmare - it's not a matter of if the authorities find out, it's a matter of when. and then you have to pay back all the benefits you received in addition to all the taxes that you owe, along with fines and penalties. declaring your $$ is much safer for yourself and your family. i apologize if i'm assuming wrongly about why you're against giving out your ss#. but this is a for real job and it leaves too much of a paper trail to go under the radar.

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    LOL. Its not about tax evasion it has to do with my LLC for my yoga practice. It gets really complicated and it's just not worth it. I'd skip camming all together if there were no other options but UK sites seem to work perfectly for me.


    Quote Originally Posted by BustyAmeera View Post
    Ah ok lol. I didn't read that part. Sometimes I just skim read and miss some things..

    You do have to give out your social to every site as far as I know. I think I have worked about 6 or 7 sites and had to give them all my social.

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    point noted. Yet another pertinent fact in making my decision wether or not to get serious about camming. Thanks


    Quote Originally Posted by tinydancer23 View Post
    i get needing to live under the table for the sake of disability benefits (if that's your situation, i don't want to assume wrongly if it's not - i am disabled and have a lot of friends who are disabled or have family members who are who are in that situation and have also done sex work to get by) but wanted to echo what others have said. in order to make good money camming it's going to have to happen over the table - most of the sites that operate under are shady and unreliable. and getting audited is a nightmare - it's not a matter of if the authorities find out, it's a matter of when. and then you have to pay back all the benefits you received in addition to all the taxes that you owe, along with fines and penalties. declaring your $$ is much safer for yourself and your family. i apologize if i'm assuming wrongly about why you're against giving out your ss#. but this is a for real job and it leaves too much of a paper trail to go under the radar.

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    Understood and agreed. I don't want to waste my time and I REALLY dont want to cam more than 12-18 hours a week. I find it spiritually draining. Again, Im just trying to gather information before I make a permanent decision on wether or not this is for me.
    And thanks again


    Quote Originally Posted by Lusty Laken View Post
    Oh, I forgot to add: Personally, why would you want to work in the adult industry for pocket change? To me, if you cannot dedicate the time and effort that it takes to grow your adult camming business into something financially rewarding, then why waste your time? Seriously.

    The keyword here is ADULT. Camming for the most part is amateur porn. I just don't see why anyone would want to work in the adult industry for the same pay as what McDonalds or an average secretarial position would pay.

    ?

    Part time work = Part time pay.

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    Thanks for the insight LoveShooks. well said.

    Quote Originally Posted by loveshooks View Post
    ^^^THIS is the reason why I'd say that camming is probably not the job for you. Put aside the ethical issues surrounding paying your fair share for services that we all enjoy, such as roads, the assurance that the water from our taps won't kill us, etc (I'm putting aside things like our tax dollars being spent putting racialized people in prisons and killing Brown people overseas for the moment, that's a whole other issue)
    You've mentioned a couple of times that you own your own business. Have you ever heard of an audit? Unless you plan to make very little money on cam (raising the question of what's the point if that's the case) you will have some rather large checks deposited into your bank account on a regular basis. Do you think the government will never notice? Trust me, they don't fuck around with people who are 'stealing' from them (which is how the gov looks upon tax-evaders).
    You've also mentioned that you have a differently-abled son...alot of services you may wish to avail yourself of, either now or in the future, are means-tested, which means opening up your financial records in order to receive the assistance you require. Trust me, whatever undeclared $$$ you earn from camming will cost you ALOT more in the long run, in both $$$ and grief than it would to just figure out a way to declare it in the first place.
    peace

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    Have you considered just focusing on making and selling content instead of camming? Check out some sites like Clips4Sale, MyGirlFund and ModelSplash. I'm not sure how the ssn thing works with those sites, but it might be worth checking into.
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    C4S wants your tax details too, i wasn't asked on MGF but maybe that's because I'm in the UK? Modelsplash i can't comment on.

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    Why anyone who would want to work for a site that doesn't ask for your SSN is beyond me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MissKatie View Post
    C4S wants your tax details too, i wasn't asked on MGF but maybe that's because I'm in the UK? Modelsplash i can't comment on.
    Almost done with MGF registration and so far they haven't asked for my ssn

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    Quote Originally Posted by tinydancer23 View Post
    i get needing to live under the table for the sake of disability benefits (if that's your situation, i don't want to assume wrongly if it's not - i am disabled and have a lot of friends who are disabled or have family members who are who are in that situation and have also done sex work to get by) but wanted to echo what others have said. in order to make good money camming it's going to have to happen over the table - most of the sites that operate under are shady and unreliable. and getting audited is a nightmare - it's not a matter of if the authorities find out, it's a matter of when. and then you have to pay back all the benefits you received in addition to all the taxes that you owe, along with fines and penalties. declaring your $$ is much safer for yourself and your family. i apologize if i'm assuming wrongly about why you're against giving out your ss#. but this is a for real job and it leaves too much of a paper trail to go under the radar.
    I'm disabled also and I only cam 8 or 9 hours a week to supplement my meager income. You are allowed to make a certain amount each month when you're on disablility. I believe it's $900 but not sure. I don't even make that much. This was my first full year camming. It has not only helped me financially but mentally too, just to be able to work a little bit again after 6 years. I'm thinking I will need to report even my small amount, but I'm not sure. Do any of you know? I sure don't want to get into trouble!
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    Don't take my word for it but I think it is anything over $500 or $600. I am not 100% sure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BustyAmeera View Post
    Go to streamate lilredridinhood. They have tons of traffic, and there are still a few pay periods before Christmas. Why waste time if you are not sure?

    Oh and it has been said on here many times that you only do well on LJ during the new period. So most of us stay away
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    Here's my honest opinion.

    I think you have already answered your question. This is not for you. I think that is probably blatantly clear to all of us reading and it sounds like you know it as well.

    Jumping from site to site and trying to ride out the new girl status isn't going to get you anywhere. If you want to make anything worth talking about, pick a site and stick to it. It DOES take hard work and dedication, just as others have already said.

    You have the time to put into camming if you want to. Saying you are a busy single mother is (not trying to be rude here) just a way for you to excuse yourself for putting a half ass effort into this. I am a mother to 4 year old twin girls (one of which is autistic) and a 14 month old baby boy. I also go to school full time. Camming is my families only income. It takes WORK WORK WORK. I don't have free time, that's just how it is. Camming is NOT for a lazy person. (Speaking in general. Not saying you are necessarily lazy.)It is not a get rich quick scheme, no matter how much these sites tell you it is.

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    It took time for you to learn how to be a good hustler at a club when you were a stripper.

    There is a learning curve for every job.

    I work part-time as a cam gal,but then I have spend years and tons of hours on marketing & building up my brand.

    During that new girl phase, was the time to build up your regulars. That was part of your job to do so.
    Yes, some girls do bank when first starting to cam, so those advertizements are NOT lies. But those gals have incredible bodies, beautiful faces & work 40+ hours.

    If you work part time then expect part time money. That equation is simple.

    I work 30 hours or more a week on marketing. 15 hours a week filming, editing & uploading clips to my C4S site, 5 hours a week on my pay site & 10 to 20 hours a week camming.

    Now if camming 4 to 5 hours a day at 5 days a week only brings you in $250 to $500 is good money. Because there is no job you can work part-time and pull in that amount or more unless your hooking or stripping.

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    I would like to say a couple of things.

    First off - it IS possible to earn "decent" money working part-time. I also have a second job, and I split my time fairly evenly between them. However, that still means working 20-30 hours per week on each job, once you factor in all of the "prep time" - social media, filming content, editing, posting, shopping for supplies etc etc. I probably spend about 10-15hrs on cam, and 10-15 hours on the other stuff per week. From that, I am currently comfortably earning what I want right now. I would like to see that rise, and it is, but I know it will take time. It has taken me most of the past 7months focusing on one site to build up to where I am now, and as I up content sales and diversify into voyeur camming as well, that should rise nicely.

    So you can absolutely work part time and make good money, but you still need to put in the WORK. That means spending months where you do NOT earn well, where you maybe get a couple hundred a week because you are building up your brand, working your way up the ranks of placement, building regulars etc. That means that YES you have to spend a bunch of time in "free chat" seemingly doing nothing and not getting a lot of privates...and then moving up to the point where you always have lots of guys in your room, and usually are doing almost back to back privates or shows. You don't have to dedicate your entire life to camming if you are not doing it full time, but you still have to be dedicated, and you still have to be patient and work hard.

    As for the SSN thing - I am surprised to hear you say that it is "not" about tax evasion, but about your other company being an LLC. As I understand it, LLC status (as well as making you not personally liable) means that you are able to file earnings from the company in your personal tax return, rather than doing it separately as a business. So the only thing that I can think is that taking on another job would "complicate" this because you would have to find a new way to do your taxes. So you are not intending to pay taxes on your cam earnings, because there is no way to do this without complicating your LLC status. THIS IS TAX EVASION. This is illegal, and immoral. Do NOT do it.

    As I see it, you have a couple of options.

    1. Keep jumping around to take advantage of new girl statuses, only on sites that do not ask for SSN. You'll run out of sites FAST, probably end up with a bunch of payment issues (the most reputable sites usually ask) and quit.
    2. Find one site, and stick at it, working part time, but working patiently through the process of building up your persona and earnings until you can work 12 hours a week and do well.

    From the posts of yours I have read, I would go for option 3. Quit. You don't seem willing to sit in free chat, which means you aren't willing to work up to big earnings like everyone else. You don't seem to want to put in an initial effort for a later payoff, you don't want to pay taxes because it will complicate your other business, AND you find it spiritually draining. It really doesn't sound like this is for you.
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