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    Quote Originally Posted by tashataboo View Post
    I totally understand the point you're trying to make, but here's the thing...
    If my room is crickets, I now understand that it's not my price that's the problem. This is what I've come to find out in all areas of marketing. The truth is -- from adult biz to promoting web design services and anything beyond or between -- if a potential client is stuck on price the issue is that they are not convinced about your offer; it's not about the price. Everyone becomes a dime a dozen when price is the deciding factor.

    Make yourself a purple cow and you step out of that rat race. (unfamiliar with purple cow? look up Seth Godin) Marketing is marketing is marketing. Good marketing makes selling superfluous. (also look up Peter Drucker if you don't get the latter statement) Become a great marketer and you'll make great money no matter what service or product you sell.
    Wisdom.

    Stick with the Hollywood (safe) formula if that's what works for you, but I like the method proposed in this thread. I love even more that there are ladies incorporating it and seeing great return. You can't know success if you're never willing to risk failure.

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    Holy crap..

    Since I raised my prices up to 3.99 and 4.89, I've actually been getting LONGER privates and exclusives!!!

    Yup - guys have been staying with me for LONGER periods of time in paid chat since I raised my prices. Thank you for this thread Fridays!





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    I admit I haven't read much of this thread at all so I'm likely repeating a lot, but I feel like adding my 2 cents anyways-

    Raising prices is really the best thing you can do for yourself. Even if you get shorter privates, it still evens out for the most part because you're making a higher amount.

    Remember- many of us are risking a lot, getting naked and (usually) shoving toys into a variety of places. Putting up with beggars and freeloaders, listening to creepy and crazy fetishes, watching god only knows what on c2c... Don't you think you deserve to be banking for this?

    Some girls never even put a mirror between their legs, let alone a webcam to broadcast themselves to the world wide web! We risk being recorded, being found by exes, by friends, by family members..Many of us are risking our reputations and relationships. At first glance it seems like okay yeah we make great money compared to minimum wage...But that's the thing, you can't compare this to a vanilla job! We are not flipping burgers in a back room, we are putting ourselves in the public eye doing what many women wouldn't have the balls to even consider! WE SHOULD MAKE GREAT MONEY FOR THIS JOB.

    Not convinced? Let's take away our "hourly pay" mindset for a minute.
    Forget that you make $30/$50/$100/whatevs and hour and think of it PER SHOW-
    Custy comes along, takes you private for 8 minutes. If your price is set at say, $2.99, this dude is paying roughly $23. $23 for the luxury of a beautiful woman performing LIVE in front and essentially personalizing his very own porno.
    For $23.
    Oh, but remember- on say, SM, you only see 35% of that. Even less on daily pay.

    So approx. $9. You're providing-and again I really want to drive this word into your brain-a luxury. You're giving the guy a chance to use you for his own pleasure, you're bringing his most intimate fantasys to life.

    Sure, you may do shows all of that hour and it adds up, but per person they're paying chump change.

    If you believe that everything you're doing for these guys, everything you could be risking ,everything you put up with from asshat customers, jealous "coworkers" and,hell , even the websites we work on, is worth the cost of a Happy Meal from McDonald's, then I'm sorry girlie- but you need to leave this industry and not come back until you learn some self worth.

    /end lecture
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    Default Re: Please.Stop. Being. Cheap. ( !!!!!!!!!!)

    loved your lecture, Brilynne!
    Awesome post, really.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fridays View Post
    Awesome!!!!!
    Now if all the gold shows would be $1/min or more...
    I'd think I died and went to heaven..
    I couldn't agree more and even most of my regs agree. Yes, we've discussed it at length in free chat. They agree that they spend money on us because they want to and feel that we deserve to be treated with respect and be paid accordingly for what we give them. I have great regs!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ElianaIsis View Post
    I couldn't agree more and even most of my regs agree. Yes, we've discussed it at length in free chat. They agree that they spend money on us because they want to and feel that we deserve to be treated with respect and be paid accordingly for what we give them. I have great regs!
    I love hearing this.

    These guys will only value us to the extent that we value ourselves.
    Up your standards, ladies! Yes, it may be easier said than done. We live in a world where busting ass for practically pennies, not only tolerating but smiling in the face of the rude, obnoxious, even downright insulting, and stucturing our lives around someone elses terms, rules, and schedules in beaten into us from day one.
    But you DO deserve better, and you have found a job that allows you to have what you deserve! There is so much opportunity here, so seize it!

    Yes, when it comes to stepping up and demanding what you're entitled to you may feel nervous, uncertainty, worry..all sorts of apprehension at first.
    That's fine, you are human. And honestly, you can go ahead and be absolutely dying inside..
    Just don't show it!

    I live my life according to 6 little words, and really it has made a world of difference:

    Fake it til ya' make it

    Confidence it key. Believe you are worthy and others will come to believe it, too!
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    Quote Originally Posted by tashataboo View Post
    I totally understand the point you're trying to make, but here's the thing...
    If my room is crickets, I now understand that it's not my price that's the problem. This is what I've come to find out in all areas of marketing. The truth is -- from adult biz to promoting web design services and anything beyond or between -- if a potential client is stuck on price the issue is that they are not convinced about your offer; it's not about the price. Everyone becomes a dime a dozen when price is the deciding factor.

    Make yourself a purple cow and you step out of that rat race. (unfamiliar with purple cow? look up Seth Godin) Marketing is marketing is marketing. Good marketing makes selling superfluous. (also look up Peter Drucker if you don't get the latter statement) Become a great marketer and you'll make great money no matter what service or product you sell.


    Yeah, I know it's not JUST about pricing, and that promoting, marketing, etc. is important too.
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    [B]Fake it til ya' make it[b]
    Agreed 1000% !!

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    Word! Misskatie...

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    One thing we all have to understand is that we each charge what we need/want to make and that amount is different for all of us. I keep my privates between $4.50 to $4.99/min. If and when I do GOLD shows, I set a low goal and sometimes yes, I do offer low minimum pledges for a short show, but I'll get some nice guys pitching in way more so it balances out okay. Those are quick cash makers for me, not my bread and butter like the privates, so I do want to make it fun for the guys who honestly want to participate but can't afford to blow big money. I've made some regulars off of them too, guys who spend that 1 gold to see what I was about and loved the 5 min preveiw, so they came back and spent another $50 on me in private. Should I also exclude guys who maybe have a monthly cam budget? I'll take whatever I can get, sorry ladies.
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    Silly question but... Is it fair to charge between 3.50 and 4.50 a minute as a start when offering the following on Streamate? Remember, I'm a transgirl, which puts me in a niche on that site.

    * HD fluid stream
    * High performance computer
    * High quality audio
    * Fluid English communication skills
    * Lingerie shows
    * A 10Mbps upload connection

    And many other goodies.
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    Karina, I'd check the other trans girls on the site and see what they charge, but I have always heard it can be a very lucrative niche so I would think your price is a bit low, especially with an HD video stream and that massively fast upload.


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    Most of the trans girls at Streamate (and many other sites) don't even have sound. They have a choppy video quality and TBH their shows suck! Most are thai or latin american and they can barely speak English.

    Perhaps I can raise the bar regarding pricing considering the advantages I'll have BUT I want opinions from people here. Consider that I'm also working on the online marketing around forums, and so far I've gotten a positive feedback from people, even getting PM's and stuff at other forums.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KarinaGiselle View Post
    Silly question but... Is it fair to charge between 3.50 and 4.50 a minute as a start when offering the following on Streamate? Remember, I'm a transgirl, which puts me in a niche on that site.

    * HD fluid stream
    * High performance computer
    * High quality audio
    * Fluid English communication skills
    * Lingerie shows
    * A 10Mbps upload connection

    And many other goodies.
    I started at 3.99/4.99
    not a niche but offer all the things that you do, too.
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    I'm thinking of charging 4.99 private and 5.99 exclusive. Considering my niche and the proposed quality, I think it's a very fair price.

    Would anyone like to provide me some solid feedback? What I fear is that, if those prices are too high, I won't get as many customers as I'd wish.
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    ^ Why don't you give those rates a try and see? I'm not in your niche, so I don't know specifically, but if you try those rates and find you're not getting the number of privates that you want you can re-assess and adjust slightly downward if you need to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DMaribella View Post
    ^ Why don't you give those rates a try and see? I'm not in your niche, so I don't know specifically, but if you try those rates and find you're not getting the number of privates that you want you can re-assess and adjust slightly downward if you need to.
    I think that this is the best thing that you can do, as well. Going down is easier than going up.
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    I just made way more money in half an hour than I usually do and in charging 4 dollars a minute now, I just decided to give myself a little raise :] my customer quality has also dramatically improved the losers just camp out in freechat, not for long though. I wish I did this when I first started what was I thinking?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparks View Post
    I just made way more money in half an hour than I usually do and in charging 4 dollars a minute now, I just decided to give myself a little raise :] my customer quality has also dramatically improved the losers just camp out in freechat, not for long though. I wish I did this when I first started what was I thinking?
    Good job! I'm happy for you. Enjoy that extra money I know I did the same happy dance when I upped my prices.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fridays View Post
    @ karina

    "Start backwards.

    How much do you want or should I say need to make per hour?
    $20. $30, $50, $90, $120?
    if you were in private non stop, how much should you have to charge per minute ( after the site;s cut) to make your hourly rate?
    "



    I have done this from the very beginning. I want to make $200 a working hr (not an hour that im live, but every 60 minutes being in a show) SO then I divide that by 60 (minutes) Then I tack on a dollar or two as my rate ( $4-$6) This has made me WANT to work. The fact that I am getting what I feel I deserve and what I ask for.


    Ask for less and you will get less.
    thats bottom line.
    Ask for more and you will get more.
    why is this principle so hard?

    and keep in mind...
    if someone has $5... they have $10 too.
    Make them spend the 10, cause they have it.
    If you dont, I will.
    Someone will get their money.
    ........

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    I just spotted this very relevant Seth Godin quote on The Domino Project blog:

    "In a market where the marginal cost is close to zero, prices tend to race to zero as well. Except… Except when there are no substitutes. If you want Elvis Costello to call you on the phone and wish you a happy birthday, he can charge you whatever he wants, because even though it costs him very little, you have no alternatives. If you want Elvis, well, there’s only one. Take it or leave it."


    Love it. 'Nuff said

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    Dear Fridays,

    I thought I was already doing a kick-ass job making $ on cam. But ever since raising my already exorbitant rates (inspired in part by your thread), I've been doing even BETTER, making MORE, and attracting HIGHER QUALITY customers. Like... way beyond my expectations, my-jaw-is-on-the-floor. :-)

    I was already pretty smug about my level of success, but you helped me take it NOT to 'the next level'... but a few notches beyond. You reminded me that no matter how well you think you're doing, unless every man over the age of 18 on the entire internet is maxing out his credit card in your cam room as soon as you log on, there is room for improvement. ;-)

    I owe you a big fat thank you.

    Please PM me your paypal address, because I probably owe you a cut of my money, as well. :-)

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    What I DO have issues with, is that this was a couple of years ago And Judas is still in the freezer.

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    This thread confuses me. I have been trying to reason it all into my brain. I understand we all want the most money that we can get while still maintaining our lifestyles and that some of us do not understand the value of our minutes. Being still a newbie to the industry, I thought I could get a sort of reason to what my prices should be from this. So I been reading AND using my member account to check prices of some girls that I feel are similar to me and the more marketable girls too. Some of the prices that are listed here are not what is being charged.

    I wanna walk the walk and be a big girl and be successful, but I noticed for me that when I raised my rates-just a wee bit-my time being taken private has decreased. But my kids have been home for the last two weeks and my time has been very limited too. And I agree with another model who posted on a different thread when she said she noticed a drop in earnings after speaking on them in this forum, I have noticed that too. I have not made great money yet but when I speak on what I make to give other girls a realistic thought process then my earnings drop.

    I am currently at 319 for exclusives and I think 399 for privates. I was 299 and 399. I am gonna stay there for a few more weeks and see. I feel worth the 399 and 499, but with models surrounding me with much lower prices-I am just not confident enough to demand more because I need this money. Is that crazy?

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    Oh yeah, sorry to ramble but maybe one of ya'll more experienced can help. Here is my deal with gold shows, I have successfully done one, and failed two. If the timer is 7 minutes and you take 12 minutes to get your goal....if someone took me private for those 20 minutes, at least 20 bucks, right? So I think a 100 minimum should be requested so that we get 35 for offering the special to soo many guys but I hardly EVER see 100 shows take place on the BBW page. I mean a few try and succeed but most of us can't get 60 and thats just sad and makes them not as worth while.

    I just wish we could all do a minimum 100 and never start before like say 80 is reached, so we can make money too.

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    I get so sick of the guys saying that $3.99 and $4.99 is too expensive. I offer HD and sound, I know there's girls that charge even more than that yet they get all huffy. That being said, it's probably the minority that say anything but still gets frustrating at times.

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