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    Quote Originally Posted by BringOnTheMen View Post
    Guys that sit at a table and tip in 1s are definitely frowned upon. We laugh at you in the DR and tell other dancers to avoid you. I'm sure to you, you feel like you are "helping out" everyone but when someone tips less than $10 for our time (as in, you didn't buy dances or anything) it feels insulting.
    I wasn't at a table. You might have missed my previous post as to the layout of the club & the context of my actions. I do my best not to waste anyone's time. If I'm approached with "wanna dance " & I decline, I'll tip a couple of dollars. If dancer actually introduces herself and sits for a friendly chat, I'll tip for her time 50% of dance rate, more or less. Most times a dancer will know within the first minute and a half, if I'll buy a dance right there*.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UtahMike View Post
    If I saw the dancer I wanted sitting for ten minutes with anther guy with no money changing hands, I would not walk over and ask her for a dance. I'd tip the waitress five bucks to deliver the message.
    This I do...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Naida View Post
    For the true SCJ, strip clubbing is a hobby, FYI.

    As for approaching- DO IT! There are lots of reasons why dancers won't approach a particular customer. Maybe you don't stand out from the crowd. Maybe you don't look like her "type". Maybe she is busy and hasn't had time to approach everyone. Maybe the club is too big/busy for her to take time talking to everyone. Maybe another customer upset her earlier and she's talking to other girls until she feels composed enough to start approaching again. Either way, if you like a dancer and she isn't engaged with a customer, introduce yourself.
    If she's with another customer, it can be a little tricky. Observe how long she's been sitting with that customer, whether or not money changes hands, and how well they seem to know each other. If she's been there for 10+ minutes and no money has changed hands, she might be new to dancing and just doesn't know how to excuse herself, in which case, you'll be her knight in shining armor. But always, ALWAYS wait at least ten minutes without money changing hands, introduce yourself to both the dancer and customer, then ask as politely as you possibly can if she is busy. If she gives you a moment, make it apparent that you want dances as soon as she's available. If she says she is busy, politely say that you're sorry to both dancer and customer before excusing yourself.

    As for the argument about visible stacks- DON'T DO IT, unless you're at the tip rail. In clubs I've worked, this is the only acceptable place to leave money out. It will get the attention of the dancer on stage- so be ready to part with those bills or have problems. A stack is supposed to mean "I'm willing to spend this much on any one girl," so only have a stack as big as you are willing to tip each girl. (As in, if you'll only part with $10 per stage set, only have a $10 stack. Replenish the stack as needed.) If you have a $50 stack and you only tip me $2, you are a waste of my time and every girl in the club will be told as much, which means a crappy experience for you. Keeping the stack small gives two benefits for the customer- 1) When you run out of bills at $5, I can excuse that smile, say thank you and move on to other tippers. If you stop at $5 with another $20 still in front of you, you have officially pissed me off. And 2) Strippers have a reputation for also being a bit thieving, and where there's smoke there's fire. Even I've been guilty of ripping guys off for a few bucks when they leave cash out. Making your funds visible makes them a visible target for thieves, dancers and customers alike.
    Anywhere else in the club- you just look like a PL. If it's a stack of small bills like 1s and 5s, you just look like a pretend spender and no girl will take you seriously enough to approach you. If it's a stack of larger bills, any real dancer worth her salt knows that you're not spending that money or you'd already be in VIP/CR/other dances. The only dancers it'll attract are ones that I can basically guarantee you DON'T want at your table. Oh, and thieves, regardless of denomination.
    There is a lot of ground to cover in your post so I'll reply on a few things.
    You said a dancer might not approach because she thinks im not her type. Can you please elaborate?
    The hobby comment I made was to the previous post & confused about wether if it was in reference to another form of adult entertainment.
    Like I said I very rarely approach, I should have clarified and said approach "directly". So of the reasons you stated why I wouldn't be approached are the same why I wouldn't approach.
    Now about money on hand is only acceptable at the tip rail. I agree & disagree. When I think tip rail I visualize sitting directly at the stage. This particular club, where this conversation began, has/had the bar seating at the stage where a dancer just stands and leans forward to accept stage tips.
    You mention stacks on stage. I understand what you mean about what one is willing to tip for that particular dancer, but wondering about the practicality of it with 2 or more dancers on stage. On a secondary note what would you prefer singles or larger denomination equivalent? You would really be upset if he tipped 5 and still had 20 showing? What if he was saving it for a dance with you?

    Lastly I'll say, this has been a lighthearted friendly conversation hopefully it will continue to be so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by unbeleavable View Post
    Sometimes taking number will lead to better hobby....just saying.
    True story but I once worked at a club where I was one of the most popular dancers and had many regulars. I would come in and there would be a line for me so I started giving guys numbers to wait. I know a few customers would say (here not at the clubs)that they think it's stupid to wait for a dancer but my customers didn't think so.

    This is the case at some clubs, where the hottest or most popular girls (not always the hottest but often the nicest)have lines of guys waiting their turn. That's why the op may need to approach girls.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kellydancer View Post
    I then reply by punching you in the head and you fall down.
    This line works in Veges sometimes. I was in a bachelor party where the bachelor was wired to the hilt (he is normallynammellow guy), but the dancer was into itmamd hentookmher to our champagne room and partied with her form4 straight hours and dropped $1600+$200 tip. Yes there was extras in terms of contact,mbut he had a blast. I guess she though it was a safe bet since, if he didn't have the scrila$, his posse will cover him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flyguy29 View Post
    This line works in Veges sometimes. I was in a bachelor party where the bachelor was wired to the hilt (he is normallynammellow guy), but the dancer was into itmamd hentookmher to our champagne room and partied with her form4 straight hours and dropped $1600+$200 tip. Yes there was extras in terms of contact,mbut he had a blast. I guess she though it was a safe bet since, if he didn't have the scrila$, his posse will cover him.
    Women who do extras will generally put up with more. I never allowed men to touch me and I never had to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Let_It_Fly View Post
    You said a dancer might not approach because she thinks im not her type. Can you please elaborate?
    Just like in everything else, certain people have certain types that they will or won't invest their time with. Myself, I won't waste time on the cowboys because we have no common ground to connect on, which means no conversation and often no dances. I also don't talk to anyone in my age group unless they show certain signs of maturity (no money flashing, no logos on their clothing, no cheap booze, proper fitting clothes and belt use, professional type haircuts that were obviously done by a salon or barber) or if I know them personally as spenders, because anyone under 30 is usually not a spender. The same rules for under 30 usually apply to black men, regardless of age. (That's not racial profiling, by the way. That's just honesty. It's been incredibly rare to find a spending black man in the clubs I've worked, even if they meet all the maturity cues.) My "type" is usually middle aged men who present themselves with "swagger", or older men who were obviously hippies/forward thinkers in their youth.

    Quote Originally Posted by Let_It_Fly View Post
    The hobby comment I made was to the previous post & confused about wether if it was in reference to another form of adult entertainment.
    I suppose I can understand the misunderstanding. But, as unbeleavable said, taking a number usually DOES result in a better experience in the SC. Girls who have to make appointments for their customers do so for good reason- because their time is genuinely that valuable to both herself and to her regulars.

    Quote Originally Posted by Let_It_Fly View Post
    When I think tip rail I visualize sitting directly at the stage. This particular club, where this conversation began, has/had the bar seating at the stage where a dancer just stands and leans forward to accept stage tips.
    Just to clarify, if the seating is at the stage and dancers are allowed to collect tips there, that makes it part of the tip rail.

    Quote Originally Posted by Let_It_Fly View Post
    You mention stacks on stage. I understand what you mean about what one is willing to tip for that particular dancer, but wondering about the practicality of it with 2 or more dancers on stage.
    I haven't typically worked with more than one dancer to a stage. But on the occasions that I have, these dancers were not working just one end of the stage either. I would assume that if the dancers were specifically working one end of the stage, you should sit at the end with the dancer you prefer and tip her from a stack. If you sat between them, or they were genuinely sharing the stage and not just working one end, it would be better not to have a stack but to keep the money in your hand and tip as you see fit.

    Quote Originally Posted by Let_It_Fly View Post
    On a secondary note what would you prefer singles or larger denomination equivalent?
    This one is tricky, because I don't care if $5 comes as a five dollar bill or as five singles. Five bucks is still five bucks, no matter which form it comes in (as long as it's not coins. I'll kick that shit back in your face) But it's still a good idea not to have more money in the visible stack than you're prepared to spend on that one girl during that one stage set.

    Quote Originally Posted by Let_It_Fly View Post
    You would really be upset if he tipped 5 and still had 20 showing? What if he was saving it for a dance with you?
    Shit yes, I would be upset. If you come to my stage with a $20 stack of ones and you still have money in your hand at the end of my set, you have misled me to your value. That's just like you paying for a $20 dance where the girl just straddles your lap and nags you about her cats. I have seen a lot of new dancers waste time trying to get another bill out of a customer with a stack who isn't paying when she could have been spending that time gathering other tips or attracting more tips with a broader (audience directed) stage show. This happened to me a couple of times before I wised up to it and started ignoring those customers or blatantly telling them to get the fuck off my tip rail.
    If he is done tipping before the stack depletes, he should take his money and leave the tip rail until the next dancer he likes comes on stage. If he's saving that last $20 for a dance, he needs to tell me so while I'm still on stage or as I'm coming off. You have to understand that we deal with a LOT of bullshit on a nightly basis, so we usually have to vent almost immediately because bottling it up lets the stress build until it ruins our nights. If he stops tipping with $20 in his hand and waits ten minutes to ask for a dance, he gives us time to unfairly shit talk him for misleading us.

    Quote Originally Posted by Let_It_Fly View Post
    Lastly I'll say, this has been a lighthearted friendly conversation hopefully it will continue to be so.
    Even though this forum can be enlightening to the fact that we dancers typically look down on customers, it's only because most customers are PLs who want in our pants or mistreat us. But ask any member (who isn't a troll) and it becomes clear how dearly dancers cherish the blues on this forum. The reason we love them to tears is because they set themselves apart by learning about us and treating us with respect. As long as you respect us, we will respect you. As long as you ask valid questions, like the ones I've seen so far, we will give you honest answers. It is this mutual respect and want to learn from each other that allows us to be friendly with each other. So I hope your time here will remain lighthearted and friendly too.

    On a side note, since I'm saying these nice things, I just want to give all the respectful men here some big, fat <3s!
    Exotic dancing is like any other job.
    If you work in an office, you wear dress shoes and a suit.
    If you work in a restaraunt, you wear skid resistant shoes and a uniform.
    If you work in a strip club, you wear 7" stilettos and lycra g-strings.

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    Thank you for taking the time to explain yourself in such a manner.

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    No problem ^_^ It actually feels pretty good to explain when people actually want to learn.
    Exotic dancing is like any other job.
    If you work in an office, you wear dress shoes and a suit.
    If you work in a restaraunt, you wear skid resistant shoes and a uniform.
    If you work in a strip club, you wear 7" stilettos and lycra g-strings.

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    Great post Naida and I completely agree. Men often get mad when they are ignored, but all dancers who have done this awhile get a sense of who will for the most part spend money. My customers have always been older professional men of all races. Sure I had some customers that didn't fit that demographic (I had a young customer who spent)but for the most part this was true. As a result I usually ignored younger customers because they generally had zero interest in me. Why waste my time on guys who stats proved me they wouldn't spend when I can spend time with a man who probably will?

    As for the blues, agreed completely. I have gotten some of the nicest pms from men here. Sure there are some jerks here but they generally don't last. The men who treat us with respect were the guys who I liked chatting with in the clubs. The sad fact is that most customers I've had weren't especially great men.

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    If only the clubs were all filled with the kind of wonderful guys we have here. No dancer would be hungry or angry ever again.
    Exotic dancing is like any other job.
    If you work in an office, you wear dress shoes and a suit.
    If you work in a restaraunt, you wear skid resistant shoes and a uniform.
    If you work in a strip club, you wear 7" stilettos and lycra g-strings.

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    About the "no logo showing", are you specifically referring to those big gaudy over the top branding that certain designers are fond of. I wear a particular brand that usually has some form of small subtle identifying logo or markings. It's tough to find any clothing that doesn't have some form of brand identifier.

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    Something else I noticed that may have been lost in translation. The tip rail stack reply, you said if he still had a stack after your set. When you mentioned tip rail tipping & spending on that particular dancer at that particular time, I took that as such. To clarify for example if you just got on stage & saw someone with $20 in singles, gave him a show, would you expect the entire thing at that particular time or would you be satisfied if they tipped the entire time you were on stage until the all of the $20 was gone?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Let_It_Fly View Post
    About the "no logo showing", are you specifically referring to those big gaudy over the top branding that certain designers are fond of. I wear a particular brand that usually has some form of small subtle identifying logo or markings. It's tough to find any clothing that doesn't have some form of brand identifier.
    If I can clearly read the logo while I'm more than a foot away, then you are disqualified. Keyword here is "read". Some brands, like Tommy Hillfigure (sp?) use symbols as their logos, which is far less tacky and "showy" as readable logos. But the brands that dancers usually look for in a spender are the ones that don't need to advertise with visible logos, which is kind of a catch 22. What brand are you refering to?

    Quote Originally Posted by Let_It_Fly View Post
    Something else I noticed that may have been lost in translation. The tip rail stack reply, you said if he still had a stack after your set. When you mentioned tip rail tipping & spending on that particular dancer at that particular time, I took that as such. To clarify for example if you just got on stage & saw someone with $20 in singles, gave him a show, would you expect the entire thing at that particular time or would you be satisfied if they tipped the entire time you were on stage until the all of the $20 was gone?
    I understand what you're asking, but not so much why. As long as I recieve the money, I am satisfied. But I honestly kind of prefer steadily tipping the whole time I'm on stage. It makes things a little simpler, because I can also focus my attention on other tippers and give an "audience show", where as a single large tip usually (according to etiquette) requires that I focus my attention on that one tipper for a bit longer. I honestly don't like having to focus on only one person, because it looks like preferential treatment towards a single customer.
    Exotic dancing is like any other job.
    If you work in an office, you wear dress shoes and a suit.
    If you work in a restaraunt, you wear skid resistant shoes and a uniform.
    If you work in a strip club, you wear 7" stilettos and lycra g-strings.

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    I dont own any Hilfiger but a few pieces in the same vein...Ralph Lauren, nautica. I just got a burberry sweater for my birthday which has logo on the bottom near the waist line. I also have a Burberry scarf with their distinctive pattern. I like to believe most of what my casual wear isn't considered gaudy, I will admit somethings do have logos and some with graphics/brand marking.

    I dont want to come off as superficial about brands & labels of clothing. I just have a tendency to stay with something that fits me well & I'm comfortable in. I would buy things from Walmart if it fit me well, quality was good, &I was comfortable in it. I like to go in, see what I like, buy it, and walk out. I dont want to be bothered with waiting for dressing to be vacant & trying on different sizes. Im a tad impatient...don't judge me

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    lol, In my experience, Ralph Lauren, Nautica, and Burberry don't self-advertise much except with statement items (like your scarf) so that's cool. But the less graphics and branding, the better. It might not get the attention of new girls, but the ones with experience who know what they're looking for will pick up the message.

    And don't worry about sounding superficial. A man who knows what he wants and goes for it is a good quality. Myself, I LOVE shopping and hate buying anything that I haven't tried on first! But women's clothing is so much more complicated with sizing than men's. I wish I could just look at a label and say "I have a 36 inch hip, these are exactly what I need!" instead of saying "Well, I wear a 5 over at American Eagle and a 7 at Aeropostale and a 1 in this off brand, so what size do I need from Charlotte Russe?" It's this strange sizing issue that has just spurred my love spending all day in the mall!
    Exotic dancing is like any other job.
    If you work in an office, you wear dress shoes and a suit.
    If you work in a restaraunt, you wear skid resistant shoes and a uniform.
    If you work in a strip club, you wear 7" stilettos and lycra g-strings.

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    what about wearing t shirts with say harley or fire departments on them or does that not matter

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    Geez, this is more difficult than it should be.

    1. Don't sit at the bar or stage unless you want to have a drink, tip onstage, take the place in.

    2. Find a nice table or booth away from the stage.

    3. If you see a girl you like, tip her, approach her, have the waitress get her. If a girl is walking by and doesn't see you, say something, she will stop. Some strippers are in their own little worlds

    4. Don't put a stack of money on the table, that's fucking stupid unless you're putting hundreds down because you're about to make it rain.

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    Thank you KS for bringing us back to reality and back on topic!

    The SW Fashion corner portion of this thread has pretty much run it's course. Let's try to keep things on topic...
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    Sorry >_<
    Exotic dancing is like any other job.
    If you work in an office, you wear dress shoes and a suit.
    If you work in a restaraunt, you wear skid resistant shoes and a uniform.
    If you work in a strip club, you wear 7" stilettos and lycra g-strings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Naida View Post
    Sorry >_<
    No need to apologize my dear. Your contributions to the thread have been well thought-out and very much appreciated. I sense however that some of the testosterone infected members here are going off on a "what do I wear to the club" tangent. We have plenty of those threads already and they always seem to devolve into the sweatpants boner man abyss...
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    Quote Originally Posted by yoda57us View Post
    Thank you KS for bringing us back to reality and back on topic!

    The SW Fashion corner portion of this thread has pretty much run it's course. Let's try to keep things on topic...
    I don't feel this thread strayed far from the topic at hand. Statements were made, questions were asked & answered. It was all related to ITC customer & dancer interaction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Let_It_Fly View Post
    I don't feel this thread strayed far from the topic at hand. Statements were made, questions were asked & answered. It was all related to ITC customer & dancer interaction.
    Your entitled to your opinion. I'm entitled to mine. We're moving on now...
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    yoda, I want you so bad it aches in the swimsuit area.
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    I love being approached by customers for dances! My favorite regulars have approached me. If you don't want to dance but you still want to approach me, you better tip me big for my time/conversation. Nothing irritates a dancer more than a customer going up to her, wanting a free chat and grope!

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