thanks girls!




thanks girls!
Last edited by Laurisa; 12-15-2011 at 02:55 AM.
If you are willing to do for one year what other's won't, you can spend a lifetime doing what other's cant.
than keep stripping if u can.. (? )
how can u go from $100000 to $5 pledge and $60 goal?
Please do not lie about your gold shows.
its so unprofessional! it might get you reported and banned too.
Recently I did ask support about something " somewhat" similar and they said if the customers are upset/lied to.. they will report u and u risk being suspended..




It took me a year and a half to earn $100,000, and I explained why I quit stripping in another thread.
Why would I be banned for doing everything except a cum shot? I'm sure there are plenty of guys that find they just can't cum when it's time in a gold show.
If you are willing to do for one year what other's won't, you can spend a lifetime doing what other's cant.
because if enough guys complain that there paying for what u say u provide and u dont deliver they will suspend u if they find out ur saying ull do something but dont. dont lie for ur gold shows just simply say i can promise a cum shot cause my husband has already cam twice today but we will try. so that way if he dont deliver they cant be mad. also about anal if u dont have enough time then charge more an up ur mins this is commin sense. if u dont want anal then dont do it. i do anal cause i use lube but seriously even if its just for a min they will be semi happy due to the fact they had it an u can just say my ass is way to tight for anal so i can promise finger play theres ways around making ur custies happy and urself




Well in our gold show description we never have said we will do a cum shot. EVER.
And we usually do anal for 1 minute at the end and thats how we end the show. So I don't think we can get in trouble because I've never typed in free chat, gold show count down, or gold show description that we will do cum shot. The guys ask and we say "we will try to do that".
That's all it is. No promises, ever.
Our gold show description says "doggy, bj, reverse cow girl, ass slapping, hair pulling, anal at end"
If you are willing to do for one year what other's won't, you can spend a lifetime doing what other's cant.





I agree that you should give them a cum shot if that is what you promised. Otherwise don't promise it and/or just do solo shows.
Now I have no problem if you fake a cum shot tho, with watered down yogurt or something that looks like cum. It's done quite often, tricky to master but sounds like that's your only option. I feel they are paying for the effect and for you to make THEM cum, not to see you cum and whatever it takes, if it's realistic it's all good.
I would be totally pissed if i paid to see something and didn't get it.



I would think that could only work a few times before you get in trouble for it. I mean if you have 40-50 guys in your room each gold show and you do 2 gold shows a night, then you've had 80-100 guys per night in your room you've lied to. In a week, that's 700 customers. Out of 700 customers don't you think at least 5 of those would complain or ask for a refund? I know you won't get the charge back but you could get in trouble or suspended.
Then you risk scorned guys coming back into your room blasting you during future gold show countdowns. I know if you lied to me, I'd be back in your room with a vengeance lol. I mean yeah you could ban them but if you're doing this to over 100 guys a night wellllllll............
Also forget gaining regulars from this. If you're screwing guys, then they're not coming back to be screwed again. You wouldn't, so why would they? So it can't be a good marketing strategy. I mean I get you need the money but I wouldn't compromise your long-term success for a short-term gain. Just my 2 cents.
Ah!!
Maybe other models will answer to you.. but..
since it seems thats somewhat of a turn off for the customers, than try to say something like" foreplay"..
when you say" we will try to do that" and never do it, its clear ur not actually trying lol...
I dunno what else to say......
maybe e-mail support and ask them what they suggest..?




I think I explained it wrong.
We don't put cum shot in our gold show count down. It's usually 4-5 guys that ask for a facial or cum shot and we tell them we will try. Out of 30+ customers in a gold show we only had three complain after this last one...the rest were happy with the stuff we put in our gold show description since we never said we'd do a cum shot specifically.
I said we promised it in my original post which was the wrong way to say it, I should have said we implied it lol, my bad.
If you are willing to do for one year what other's won't, you can spend a lifetime doing what other's cant.




A friend of mine just had her account CLOSED for lieing about what she did in gold shows... Because when you screw the guys over, and they are making MASSIVE chargebacks of YOUR gold show, because they didnt get what was expected, streamate still has to pay you, its not like a pvt where you say, Sorry, i dont do that to 1 guy, and have him charge back, Thats like 70 guys AT A TIME your pissing off. D:
Im just letting you know of my friend, who has been camming almost 3 years at streamate, and just had her account closed... due to lieing in gold shows. D:
P.s. If you do most of the things, i doubt they will take action, But if its something noticeable, they will go look at your gold shows. Say you promised anal, and then in the gold show you say your a ass virgin lol.
Americanmade18 on most sites.
i think that kind of lying is wrong...like saying he will cum in the show and you KNOW he is not gonna.
but i don't think there is anything wrong with saying something like "he might cum, i'm not sure if 5 minutes is enough time, but come join the show u might get lucky "
theres a big difference in saying you will do something vs. giving them a little hope but letting them know its not guaranteed.
"Achieving success is a challenge but so is struggling so you may as well choose success."



I get what you're saying now. If it's only a few guys, then clearly you're keeping everyone else happy so just stick to what you're describing and if someone asks for a cum shot, just say you'll try but can't guarantee it. Or hell just say "no not this time". Don't worry about losing a few guys.
I have never squirted in my life but if people ask sometimes I'll say no and other times I'll say "I don't always squirt in my shows" or "I can't promise that I'll be able to do so in this short amount of time." Now I know that I'm not going to squirt ever but I haven't promised them anything. And no one's ever complained. Just be careful because you could get in trouble and have your account suspended and it wouldn't be worth it for a few dollars.




And about the few guys who complain, you cant please everyone, they thought they where going to control the show for 5 bucks?? Tell them if they want to put in requests they need to put in a 10 dollar tip. (Or your choice of price.) and then write there name somewhere visible..
Americanmade18 on most sites.




i do this with squirting. i'm a huge squirter in my private sex life but it's really hard for me to do on command or on cam because i'm not always turned on enough, and also i don't projectile squirt so sometimes it doesn't show up as well on cam. but i just tell them i'll do my best to squirt - sometimes i have gold shows with a lot of squirting, sometimes there really isn't any. the guys are pretty understanding about it. and i'd much rather some guy who has a huge fountain squirting fetish go to a model who can provide it, honestly. if a guy realllly needs to see that to get off, my shows aren't for him. while there are a lot of things i don't like about sm, i'm grateful that they cover chargebacks, and i wouldn't want to risk losing them a lot of money (which would in the end hurt everyone who works there too) nor would i want to risk getting my account suspended for lying.




Thanks guys I get what you're saying.
We wanted to make like $10 more before we logged off.
Did a quick $30 gold show for 3 minutes. We had like 5 extra guys join. Made our $15 and left happy.![]()
If you are willing to do for one year what other's won't, you can spend a lifetime doing what other's cant.
Im curious to know what the support said...
if u have some time to update us later..
I didn't see anywhere in the thread how long the show was.
If you're doing less than a 15 minute show, I'd say NO to the cum shot. They have no right to expect that from you in a 5 minute show or, I'd say, even a 10 minute show most of the time. Unless your man gets off on having 40 guys watch him at once, it's probably gonna take him the whole 15 minutes to get one out. And even still, doing cum shots in a 5 minute show is giving the guys WAY too much for the money.
I totally understood what you said in your post, so I know the cum shot is hypothetical. I'm just saying that you shouldn't have trouble still getting your money even if you tell them no. They KNOW they shouldn't expect it. You just can't please some guys, and the ones telling you a cum shot in an extremely short show is the only way they're going to give you their measly $3 or $5 donation... screw 'em.




The show was 7 minutes.
$5 donation, $100 total. We got a little over 30 guys in the show so we made like $45.
I know a cumshot is unreasonable so they have no right to be mad but this is business and we know they are all cheap fucks anyway.
If you are willing to do for one year what other's won't, you can spend a lifetime doing what other's cant.
I really wouldn't worry too much about it.
LOTS of people, even the ones who DO promise cumshots, mis-time their shows so that they cum a few seconds AFTER the show ends, and the viewers never see it. It's not ideal, but it happens. And if you made no promises of anything, it's really their problem for mis-managing their expectations. So what if you 'implied' it? Trust me.... these perverts' minds will turn ANYTHING you say around and make you feel like you PROMISED it... it's how their brains are wired. Their issue, not yours.
I will say this: It's a good idea to log off right away if you sense that you have a room full of people who weren't satisfied with the gold show you just finished, just to avoid having a bunch of disgruntled losers saying shit like "this girl sucks", "total ripoff", etc in your free room. THAT can hurt business.
Anyway, don't worry too much about it. I have 'disgruntled viewers' every single DAY because I no longer go fully nude. But I'm not about to change my own rules and get naked just to please some dumb schmuck who can't be bothered to read my profile.
Sure - don't promise things that you know you wont deliver. But....keep in mind that you can't please everyone, so stop worrying about it.
J
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