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    I was always told to approach when the guy had had a few sips of his first drink. But at my current club, there's this girl who pounces on guys as soon as they walk in - she's the top earner. Not to be mean, but she's not even half as attractive as I am.
    Do you consider it a major faux-pas to approach a guy when he walks in? Honestly, I feel like it's the only way I can make any money these days.... This girl gets almost all the men in the past few weeks! We have very few customers but I usually make a couple hundred... tonight was the only time I made less than 300! I made 40 fucking bucks. Which is less than my house fee + driver's fee. It was ridiculous! I'm so pissed, I feel like crying right now.

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    I'm sorry to hear about your shift. Stripping is a very volatile industry and the money is so unpredictable. It sucks to leave the club with less than you walked in with, but it does unfortunately happen. It's really important to not take this personally though, and channel that into motivation for your next shift!

    Personally, I prefer to wait until a customer has sat down, ordered and received his drink, and had 1-2 songs to unwind and get comfortable. However, the club culture greatly dictates what is expected and what you have to do to make money. If most of the other girls are vultures and pounce as soon as they can, then you're going to have to adapt your hustle to do the same - most customers who come in the club will luckily be used to that sort of behaviour, which is why it works.

    Here's a nice way of balancing between being a vulture and giving customers too much time: stand nonchalantly (ie. not facing/staring at the door) by the entrance so you're the first thing customers see. When they walk by you, give them a casual hello, welcome them, tell them they're in for a great night at x club, whatever. Something welcoming and flirty that doesn't come off as a hustle. If this is the type of customer who likes to come in, get dances, and get out, you'll probably get them since you're the first dancer you've seen. If it's a customer who prefers to chill for a bit first, he'll appreciate the welcome and lack of (obvious) hustle and perhaps be more preferential to you when he's ready for dances.

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    I never pounce. It makes them feel uncomfortable. If they're sitting at a table and its taking a while for them to be served, I might saunter over to entertain them so they don't feel ignored, but I always give them time to settle in and take in their surroundings.

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    That girl who is a top earner is a top earner because she knows how to close a sale...not because she sits down with them first.

    More often than not, the first girl who sits down and tries to close will fail miserably because he's not ready yet. So she walks off and "magically" he buys a dance with the next girl...because the first girl warmed him up and made it easier for the second girl to close.
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    It's just my club has been super slow lately... We barely get one customer per hour it seems. It usually works out okay, but not when I'm working with her. It just sucks that us other dancers can't even get the chance to talk to a single customer in a whole night, because she's faster. I seriously talked to one person yesterday, and I only was able to approach because she went for a smoke.
    I know I sound really petty, hah. I can't begrudge her for wanting to make money!
    I have to be competitive, too. Pounce it is! Thanks

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    Default Re: When do you approach?

    So like yall said, I usually like to wait to for the customer to sit and settle in also. How do you girls work your " pounce" hustle go down normally? Anything you do different from waiting for them to chill a bit?

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    Default Re: When do you approach?

    Most clubs I've worked at have a rule that you can't approach a customer until they've bought a drink. One such place the girls were like vultures and would crowd around a table of guys who just came in then pounce the second the waitress put their drinks on the table.

    I'll approach guys who've only just got their drink but I know I'll have to make a bit of small talk before asking for a dance to warm them up. Then again sometimes guys are there specifically for a dance and will go with the first girl who looks at them.
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    I generally wait until they've gotten a drink/settled in, not in consideration for their comfort, but because I know it's generally a waste of my time.

    However...

    Sometimes you can work that to your advantage. Watch him reject the first girl who sits down, as he likely will. Give him a minute or two and politely ask if he would like some company.

    Yes? Well, sit down; make conversation that isn't too serious and allows him to unwind. While the other girl probably mauled him like a tiger while she was searching for his wallet, he may be very attracted to you JUST because you kept him a bit of company and helped him get settled in.

    No? Tell him, "That's fine, I understand! Sit back and enjoy your beer/whatever; I'll come check on you later." *playful shoulder squeeze* and actually come back!!!
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    Default Re: When do you approach?

    Snowcake, im sorry to hear about ur slow club and girl that pounces. We have one of those at our club and she magically makes money from whoever she talks to no matter if they have gotten a drink or not....but I work in a busy club.... Is it possible for you maybe to move to a busier club?? You will be a lot less frustrated and more guys = more $$ options sometimes.

    Anyways, personally if the club is slow and the customer is waiting to get a drink I won't walk over and ask him for a dance. I will walk over, introduce myself...ask him how he's doing/what brings him in tonight/tell him when im on stage/whatever & ask his NAME (and try to remember it)....then I will excuse myself and tell him I will be back when he's had a couple drinks so I can take advantage of him *smile. Then I come back in twenty mins and say "hello again, (INSERT NAME)"...blah blah blah... so are u ready to have me naked on ur lap?". This works ALL the time.

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    ^^^ Yes I think what the other girls have said are all great ideas, sometimes it just comes down to timing as well. Sometimes they say no to the first couple of girls then the third one comes along and instead of saying no again he thinks ok what the hell ill take this one. Sometimes when I ask them for a dance I jokingly say... Your not allowed to answer ... i need a few drinks... not right now thanks.... maybe later...this is my first drink. If you dont come up with something original then you have to come for a dance, they say UM.. sorry UM is not original, your coming with me !!! when i am in a silly mood this actually works lol.

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    If you decide to pounce you need to make it seem like the reason you rushed over was because you were so excited to get your party started and hang out with the guy or group. Especially if your club looks dead. You have to work extra hard to come off as original and sincere, as the generic "hi how are you, where are you from" will probably not cut it. At my club it often is the first to sit will get the dance because they camp out for it. I've done kinda crazy things before when a group walks into a dead club. Such as, first thing I ask them is "Ohh, are you guys the firefighters (younger, would believe it if you called them hot works great with this)/ guys that called from the casino/ that bachelor party everyone was talking about?" acting all star struck even if there was no plans for such group to come in. Lmao, I don't know why this breaks the ice and it's so crazy to me, but maybe they like thinking they're on the same level as those important guests I confused them with. You need to come off as if you pounced on them because you thought they would be fun and that they stood out. Sometimes they are pricks and play along with it hoping to get special treatment, so then it is real easy to offer dances since they are in fact soooo wealthy and important and then excuse yourself to work room. But usually they get a good laugh about the mix up and you find out what the real celebration is and you can dance for the one everyone's celebrating who will then recommend you or pay for dances for friends. Meanwhile you keep the connection by having the ongoing joke, "you can be my firefighter/ fight my fire, guess we struck the jackpot tonight" etc. while walking to do the dance or if you wait for song to start. You also will often times have the group tipping you on stage, too which is always nice.

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    Default Re: When do you approach?

    If I work with girls who pounce, I'll pounce too.
    I agree, but I only do it if the timing is right, and only to the known pouncers.

    An recent example: custy walks in and the waitress takes his order and walks away, THREE POUNCERS/LAP HUSTLERS (slow night) are hovering over this guy so I just made a bee line for him and had him in the VIP in about 60 seconds. $400 later...

    Seriously though if a dancer pounces on dudes (or sits on their lap for free) they shouldn't sit there all damn day and hope for sympathy dances.

    Approach and close.

    We barely get one customer per hour it seems.
    There has to be a better club you can work at.




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    Default Re: When do you approach?

    I've tried a few other clubs but I actually like this one... It's very slow during the week, but they're not time wasters. They usually spend a lot. That is, if I can get to them first. And weekends are full and fun.
    There's very few girls working, 2-4 during the week, 6-8 on fridays and saturdays.
    And great ideas, GummyBear! I do feel awkward going over immediately and starting my little routine, it feels a bit forced especially since they're not 'ready'.

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