




This is excellent, the best explanation i've seen yet of exactly what will happen to the internet when SOPA and Protect IP pass.
Watch it.
Last edited by MissKatie; 12-20-2011 at 09:51 PM.




The SOPA Act has been delayed/rejected thanks in large part to the efforts of Jared Polis
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/1...n_1158466.html
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Yes, it's due to be taken up again TODAY (Wednesday) at 9am
that video was pretty much completely about stealing music and programs, didnt touch on anything about adultwork... :/ so im still worried that i'll be out of a job. i feel like i should be getting verified on an american site, verification process takes so much time .. ugggh!




There are some reports out there mentioning porn specifically, but this is only really in relation to how the big porn sites like bang bros etc will be able to benefit from SOPA as well as the big movie/ record companies. You have to read between the lines when it comes to our industry - this bill will potentially affect EVERY website out there, large or small, that has even the remotest possibility of having a connection to pirated material. That includes camsites where girls play music in the background or use pictures on their pages which they do not own. As camgirls we are going to be fucked left right and centre (excuse the pun). While we will probably all still have a place in the online adult industry, it's going to be different to what we know, with less customers, less money, less places to advertise, less sites to work from, less access to other countries, less access to forums where we can share information and tips, less avenues to share clips with your customers, less places to store clips/ pictures.





Good find. I found the discussion around the 11 minute mark where Professor / Attorney Brian Rowe discussing the major beneficiaries of SOPA being the 'middle-men' ... who do not create content, but who 'purchase' content produced by others, 'repackage' and market said content, and 'deliver' said repackaged content to internet customers at a profit. From an adult entertainment standpoint, this would indeed describe Bang Bro's. It also arguably describes adult webcam host sites.This is excellent, the best explanation i've seen yet of exactly what will happen to the internet when SOPA and Protect IP pass.
Watch it.
And again, despite anything that contracts between camgirls and webcam host sites may attempt to reasssign, under ICE and SOPA it will be the webcam host site that will be 'blocked' as the result of copyright violation complants regarding camgirls playing music in the background, posting copyrighted pictures on their webcam pages, etc. This will of course cause the 99% of camgirls working for a particular webcam host site to be 'blocked' right along with the 1% who were actually responsible for the alleged copyright infringement.You have to read between the lines when it comes to our industry - this bill will potentially affect EVERY website out there, large or small, that has even the remotest possibility of having a connection to pirated material. That includes camsites where girls play music in the background or use pictures on their pages which they do not own.
As Brian Rowe discussed elsewhere in the Youtube clip, the real world business motivation behind SOPA is allowing entertainment industry 'majors' to (re) gain control of distribution channels. This essentially puts small, independent, and/or non-US based distribution websites at risk.





There IS some good news in US media this morning re SOPA ... however short term it may turn out to be ....
from
(snip)"A hearing to debate and amend the controversial Stop Online Piracy Act (SOPA) in the U.S. House of Representatives has been delayed, likely until early next year.
The House Judiciary Committee had planned to continue with a third day of markup hearings on SOPA on Wednesday, if the House was still in session. But the House leadership plans now to break for the holidays before Wednesday morning, a spokeswoman for the committee said.
The continued markup has been "postponed until the House is again in session," the spokeswoman said Tuesday. "At this point, we expect that to be early next year."
The Judiciary Committee held a 10-hour bill markup session last Thursday, then met again for a short time Friday before being interrupted by votes on the House floor. Representative Lamar Smith, a Texas Republican and committee chairman, had first suggested the next markup would be after the holidays, then scheduled a hearing for Wednesday if the House was still in session.
So far, the committee has voted down about 20 amendments designed to address concerns by Web-based companies, Web security experts and digital rights groups.
SOPA would allow the U.S. Department of Justice and copyright holders to seek court orders blocking payment processors and online advertising networks from doing business with foreign sites accused of infringing copyright.
DOJ-requested court orders could also bar search engines from linking to the allegedly infringing sites, require domain name registrars to stop resolving queries that direct traffic to those sites, and require Internet service providers to block subscriber access to sites accused of infringing.
Also on Tuesday, the White House Office of U.S. Trade Representative released an update to its list of "notorious" markets for the sale of pirated and counterfeit goods. The list includes 18 websites, including BitTorrent indexing sites and cyberlockers.
The list shows the need for Congress to pass SOPA or the similar Protect IP Act (PIPA), the U.S. Chamber of Commerce said. Educational efforts to warn the public about the so-called rogue websites can take years, the Chamber said.
"That is why we need rogue sites legislation now -- to give our courts the ability to cut off foreign criminals from the U.S. marketplace," the Chamber said in a statement. The two bills "provide reasonable and effective ways" to enforce copyright law."(snip)
It's probably noteworthy to analyze the precise wording ...
- block subscriber access to sites accused of infringing ( does not say found guilty, proven etc. just accused )
- Educational efforts to warn the public about the so-called rogue websites can take years ... That is why we need rogue sites legislation now ( should be self-explanatory i.e. get these laws in place before the general public realizes the true scope )
- the committee has voted down about 20 amendments designed to address concerns by Web-based companies, Web security experts and digital rights groups. ( should also be self-explanatory i.e. the committee is bowing to the positions of MPAA, RIAA i.e. entertainment industry 'majors', with little or no concern for any other voices )
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Looks like the next hearing is supposed to be on January 24th.
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I'm being too idealistic, but I hope this doesn't gets passed. Melonie, I, and many other foreigner camgirls will be screwed if this passes. Sometimes I feel that the intentions behind such laws are deeper than we think, touching lines between conspriacy theories, perhaps.
Anyway, time will tell.
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Make sure all you ladies in the US who will be voting the next president into office this year, that you know where the person your voting for stands on the sopa issues!
I have a link in my siggy now, and so far there are only 2 opposed, and I don't know where the rest stand. I won't vote anyone in office this year that is for this bill.




For you guys in the US you can maybe do more good that us outside with regards to senators etc: http://americancensorship.org/
Also wikipedia is considering a blackout to raise awareness http://www.wikipediablackout.com/





^^^ Where US politicians are concerned, be aware that the motion picture industry, the recording industry, the performer's unions etc. are all making heavy political contributions to US politicians who are supporting SOPA. Thus verbal encouragement from people who are ineligible to vote in US elections and who are not likely to make sizeable contributions to US politicians isn't going to carry much 'weight'.
I would also add that the vote on SOPA has been put back into the US congressional schedule for tuesday Jan 27th !

As far as sopa. as soon as its passed it will be about two weeks before a federal judge blocks half of it. look at the illegal immigration laws in Georgia and Alabama. if it even smells unconsitutional it will immediatly be taken up under judicial review. Yes I know it will be forever until the Supreme Court sees it butall the courts below it will have the chance to hold off on it before it becomes effective.
I also believe that this bill is mainly to protect copywrite.
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^^^ not wanting to violate the political ban, but for a fact the only topics where constitutionality is seriously questioned lately are those that appear to go AGAINST the wishes of the White House ( i.e. your examples ). The constitutionality of topics supported by the White House are rarely challenged. Case in point this week's 'recess appointments' by the president while the congress was NOT in recess !!! Since the White House heavily supports SOPA ( and the SOPA advocate industries heavily support the White House's campaign coffers), I'm not 'holding my breath' in regard to timely or successful court challenges.

I find it sickening for a democratic country to propose such a thing. I know internet censorship is big in China but in the "land of the free" it seems insulting to that supposed freedom. Access to the internet can open up a lot of doors to people. Especially in low income communities. I know it did for me I was able to receive a wide variety of current information from better sources than capitalist cable tv and *gag& fox news. I dont think the camming industry will die out though we just need the multi-million dollar cam companies to hire a super hacker or something lol![]()
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Typo I meant "& *gag* fox news. sry"
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JUst to let you all know, major sites might go offline in January 18th for 24 hours as a form of protest against SOPA.
Source
http://techland.time.com/2012/01/12/...-main-mostpop1
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Again, I'll be highly surprised if true 'majors' like Google and Facebook participate. As posted earlier, Google and Facebook have stockholders. As also posted earlier, the high profitability of Google and Facebook depends in large part on the existance of a US corporate income tax 'loophole' which allows them to legally avoid billions of dollars in US corporate income taxes. Flying in the face of SOPA ... i.e. flying in the face of the White House and SOPA's suppporters in the US congress ... could very well result in the future 'disappearance' of that US corporate income tax 'loophole' in response. This is a huge financial risk that I'm betting that neither Google nor Facebook are willing to take. As for Reddit ... they have a lot to lose if SOPA passes, but no real 'leverage' !
Earlier posts also continue the 'fallicy' that SOPA is actually about internet censorship. In truth, SOPA is about MONEY ... and specifically the money that is being lost because control of distribution channels has been lost. Elimination of 'Pirated Content' is arguably just a means to an end. The result of SOPA that its proponents are hoping to achieve will be de-facto protectionism in favor of US industries ... from US motion picture producers to US music producers to US adult video producers to US adult webcam producers ! From a purely business oriented viewpoint, the hoped for result of SOPA will be similar to the existing effects of tariffs on the import of non-US built cars and trucks, quotas against the import of non-US produced ethanol, etc. SOPA will in fact be financially positive for US based adult webcam hosts and US based camgirls ... because SOPA will likely prevent US webcam customers ( who arguably comprise 2/3rds to 3/4ths of all worldwide adult webcam spending ) from spending money at foreign based adult webcam hosts.
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in fact, more 'proof' ... from
(snip)"In a statement, Smith said he concluded that the SOPA legislation's backers should remove the domain name access provision "so that the Committee can further examine the issues surrounding this provision."
"We will continue to look for ways to ensure that foreign websites cannot sell and distribute illegal content to U.S. consumers," Smith said.
Smith noted that the legislation still contains provisions to "follow the money" -- cutting off the funding of foreign sites from ad networks and payment processors. A provision that allows private partiers to bring claims against foreign sites by obtaining a court order to require that ad networks and payment processors stop the money flow remains. The legislation still contains provisions that would require search engines to disable links to such "rogue" sites.
The House Judiciary Committee adjourned in December before the completion of a markup hearing on the bill. It was apparent then that the legislation had enough votes to pass out of the committee, but opponents have mounted a fierce effort against the legislation since then, with some vowing to campaign against the bill's supporters in their re-election races and pressuring web-hosting service GoDaddy to shift its stance from supporter to opponent.
Rep. Darrell Issa (R-Calif.), one of the chief opponents of the legislation, has proposed an alternative bill that would attempt to combat piracy via the International Trade Commission. He also has scheduled a Jan. 18 hearing before the House Oversight Committee, which he chairs, to examine the impact of domain name and search blocking on cybersecurity.
On Thursday, the chief sponsor of the Senate version of the bill, Senate Judiciary Committee chairman Patrick Leahy (D-Vt.), said he would propose that the domain name blocking provision of the bill be studied before implementation. Nevertheless, Sen. Ron Wyden (D-Oregon) indicated that even if the provision were removed, he still would be opposed to the legislation because of other aspects of the bill. And as opponents flood congressional offices with e-mails and phone calls, there are signs that some previous supporters are reconsidering. Sen. Ben Cardin (D-Md.), a co-sponsor of the legislation, said on Friday that he would not vote for final passage of the legislation "as currently written." House Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) said that he would call for a cloture vote on Jan. 24, but there has been pressure on him to postpone."(snip)
The pertinent point here is that some of the voices being raised over 'internet censorship' have now alerted US politicians to the fact that the SOPA vote may fail if 'domain blocking' provisions are left in the bill. So the likely result, where foreign webcam hosts are concered, will be that US customers will still be able to access StreaMates and other non-US based webcam host sites. However, they WON'T be able to transfer money to those non-US based webcam hosts since the SOPA law will force US based online credit card processors to prohibit any such transactions. This defuses the potential issue of internet censorship !!! US customers will still have the 'right' to view FREE StreaMates and other non-US based webcam host site content. They simply won't be allowed to spend money to purchase paid content !
Is this the end of SOPA?
"In a surprise move today, Representative Eric Cantor(R-VA) announced that he will stop all action on SOPA, effectively killing the bill..."
http://www.examiner.com/computers-in...use-kills-sopa
http://thehill.com/blogs/hillicon-va...ensus-is-found
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Last edited by MissKatie; 01-21-2012 at 02:56 PM.
Found this too:
In a surprise move today, Representative Eric Cantor(R-VA) announced that he will stop all action on SOPA, effectively killing the bill. This move was most likely due to several things. One of those things is that SOPA and PIPA met huge online protest against the bills. Another reason would be that the White House threatened to veto the bill if it had passed. However, it isn't quite time yet to celebrate, as PIPA(the Senate's version of SOPA) is still up for consideration.
The online protests about the bill were surprising and large. They ranged anywhere from callng Representatives, companies, and senators to get them to change their mind, to actively moving domain's away from and targeting the business model of the companies that supported/lobbied for the bill. GoDaddy lost well over 100,000 domains in the space of about 10 days due to their involvement with these bills, along with other various targets. Reddit in particular has been influential in turning the tide against SOPA and PIPA, and is a good demonstration of how the Internet enables Democracy.
PIPA is less well known than SOPA, but the provisions are basicly the same. It still includes the same DNS blocking and censoring system that the original SOPA did, just without the SOPA name. There are around 40 co-sponsors of the bill in the Senate so far, with no word on how many senators support the bill in addition to that. There will most likely need to be 60 votes in the Senate in order to invoke cloture and end an almost guaranteed filibuster.

In reality this is kinda of global censorship. ICANN and the majority of the DNS servers are guess what, here in the US. In short if they want to remove a site from the web, it will be inaccessible AROUND THE WORLD. not always the case, but the fact that it can happen at all, is terrifying.





I called my acquaintance in the US entertainment industry about this latest development. From his perspective, the US house and senate are pulling the existing bills and revising the SOPA and PIPA bills to remove the 'domain blocking' provisions. It is these provisions that have led to the 'hue and cry' over attempted internet censorship. But the revised bills will still include the mandates to Visa / Mastercard / online credit card processing services. So under the revised bills, US customers would be able to access the 'free' content of non-US websites, but would not be able to process a credit card charge to buy 'paid' content from non-US websites. The latter, i.e. prohibiting US customers from spending money at foreign competitor websites thus forcing US customers to spend their money at US websites, is all that my industry acquaintance really cares about.It hasn't been cleared up or killed AT ALL, please don't think that and then sit back and forget about it. All that's happened is that they have put back the hearing indefinitely. IN the meantime, PIPA is still up for consideration, which is effectively the same bill under a different name.
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