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    Dizzy Government legalizes bestiality but we're headed toward martial law?!

    Can someone explain this to me? This is why I hate reading the news, it's always contradictory and confusing. So the government legalized bestiality in the military

    http://www.examiner.com/political-bu...e-armed-forces

    But then there are a ton of other articles out there about how we are headed toward martial law and extreme censorship... I mean I know these are 24/7 networks that have to hype up news in order to fill air time, but what does it all mean?!
    Yes, I'm real.

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    Default Re: Government legalizes bestiality but we're headed toward martial law?!

    my guess is they had to repeal the sodomy law because of repealing don't ask, don't tell (and decriminalizing queer couples in the military), but unfortunately the law, which is fucking archaic, doesn't separate sodomy and bestiality (which is a commentary on how fucked up our society is when it comes to sex - especially considering sodomy laws are not upheld against straight couples). the only way to fix that would be to make a separate law against bestiality. or they could just change the law. but this is the government and they like to make shit difficult.

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    Default Re: Government legalizes bestiality but we're headed toward martial law?!

    edit: tinydancer already answered the first part

    As far as martial law, censorship, etc, I think we all got a taste of how far our governments are willing to go in dismantling freedoms using the excuses of 'anti-piracy', 'anti-terror' etc back in 2001. This really is nothing new.
    Naomi Klein's The Shock Doctrine is a great read that outlines the ways in which governments 'create a crisis' in order to justify authoritarian and hegemonic intervention, on both a national and international level.

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    Default Re: Government legalizes bestiality but we're headed toward martial law?!

    Bestiality is still legal in some states here in the US. Gross, I know.


    Edit to be more specific: " In 32 U.S. states, it is illegal"

    http://www.animallaw.info/articles/ovuszoophilia.htm

    So basically it's legal in a lot more places than you think.
    Last edited by Crustyz; 12-19-2011 at 05:04 PM.

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    Default Re: Government legalizes bestiality but we're headed toward martial law?!

    what the fuck???? The US has legalized bestiality?

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    Default Re: Government legalizes bestiality but we're headed toward martial law?!

    what about the animal rights? no one care about them? thats being heartless

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    I resent how all the articles are worded so that if you are disgusted by the the flippant way they are addressing the apparent repeal of the law against bestiality, you also by proxy must be against allowing gay sex. I have no issues with gays in the military or anywhere else, and this stupid law against gay sex has been long due a repeal. But WTF? bestiality? It's like saying ok fuck you, you want gays in the military, here, have sex with animals too... if someone does then it's YOUR fault for allowing gays in the military!!! Oh my god!

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    Default Re: Government legalizes bestiality but we're headed toward martial law?!

    Quote Originally Posted by MissKatie View Post
    what the fuck???? The US has legalized bestiality?

    And apparently, it's still SOOO gross for homosexuals to marry and have sex, but bestiality is alright with the U.S. of A!


    ...I am so done with the U.S. now. I mean, really.

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    On a more positive note relating to the repeal of the law against sodomy aka 'gay sex' in the US military, this is evidence that broad social perceptions of subaltern behaviour can change over time. Don't forget that homosexuality as "deviant disorder" was only removed from the DSM IV (the bible of the American Psychiactric Association) in 1973.
    Granted, one can argue that it's actually easier to push for change relating to social issues (like gay rights) that aren't woven into the fabric of modern capitalism in the manner that systemic poverty and racism are, but times can and do change, if enough people are willing to push for that change.
    I guess the reason why I'm writing this is that gay rights movement really began to gain momentum when people who weren't/didn't identify as gay began to support it. Right now we're seeing a mainstream challenge to financial capitalism (see the various occupy movements) but I don't find it co-incidental that these protests have emerged after the subprime mortgage scandal/Wall Street bailout when it finally dawned on middle-class people that they could be negatively impacted by the current structure of our international economic system.
    My point is that, when it comes to structural impoverishment, martial-law-esque practises and the co-option of issues such as 'piracy' and 'terrorism' (which are often twinned together in a praxis of convenience) by governments in order to maintain the economic status quo, some communties in North America are already intimately accquainted with these tactics. Some examples are the over-policing of racialized communities throughout NA and the 1990 Oka Crisis in Canada. See also the Black Panthers and the AIM.
    I'm not totally familiar with European laws concerning these matters, but in North America, particularly in the post-2001 era, laws protecting freedoms regarding privacy, access to information, search and seizure, surveillance and imprisonment that middle-class white people have largely taken for granted really are conveniences, not 'rights'.
    Our governments have written themselves the power to deny any of us these rights, and as long as we're willing to accept this, provided that it doesn't affect US personally, this will not change.
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    Default Re: Government legalizes bestiality but we're headed toward martial law?!

    There s a girl on MGF who has a bestiality video listed on her profile, it says it very clearly " Bestiality video< watch me suck my dog s cock" many girls wrote several blogs complaining about it and the admin deleted them all.
    Finally someone got an answer from support and the guy said " well we don t condone it but we cannot do anything about it or something...." something similar, i didn t get the reply so I don t know for sure..
    The thing is it seems they don t plan on canceling her profile n now it seems on that site that always has been sooooooooooo picky and strict is ok to sell bestiality videos but if u describe one of your videos or if u say " guys i got a pedicure done, i have pics" on the main blog your posts are deleted...
    I really don t feel like working there anymore, they cannot allow those things to happen and then be picky for silly stuff.... give me a break!!

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    Default Re: Government legalizes bestiality but we're headed toward martial law?!

    You know that it's US that are gonna see all this shit now!! Be careful when you turn on that cam!

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    Default Re: Government legalizes bestiality but we're headed toward martial law?!

    Bestiality is absolutely..um, I don't even know what to say about that.

    And, speaking of animal cruelty, has the slaughtering of horses really been legalized? I keep seeing it and hoping it's just a rumor or something. I mean, really? Horses are like domesticated animals in my opinion. I read that that the last slaughter house was in Illinois and was closed in 2007. I had no idea people were killing horses. Maybe I've been living under a rock all this time.

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    Default Re: Government legalizes bestiality but we're headed toward martial law?!

    As my brother once said "If the animal and the human agree and have no issues...." of course he was joking.
    Society loves to see this bullshit happen.
    It is not right.
    It will never be right.
    Great~ so now will the common question be "Do you have a animal?"
    Please DEAR GOD if a someone ever turns on their cam and I see that shit I will hurl right there..This is not right.

    The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the iniquities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. And you will know My name is BelleFromHell when I lay My vengeance upon thee.

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    No, horse slaughter has been going on in the US anyway, but not on the scale it will now take place. There are too many people in the world with the argument "it's better to eat them than let them die of neglect", or worse, no opinion over it at all! But's that enough on that topic from me!

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    I do not understand how a person can have sex with an animal... I would seriously seriously rather die. I guess if it came down to someone holding a gun to a family members head I would do it but i know I would never recover and probably kill myself later...
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    Quote Originally Posted by MommieLongLegs View Post
    Bestiality is absolutely..um, I don't even know what to say about that.

    And, speaking of animal cruelty, has the slaughtering of horses really been legalized? I keep seeing it and hoping it's just a rumor or something. I mean, really? Horses are like domesticated animals in my opinion. I read that that the last slaughter house was in Illinois and was closed in 2007. I had no idea people were killing horses. Maybe I've been living under a rock all this time.
    Really , Just about any animal will be domesticated if raised in a domestic environment , from a lion to a chicken ( based on facts -the chicken being mine ) ..... The only difference from one an animal to another - is how WE as humans see them . They're all living beating hearts and souls ( in my opinion - long term vegan )

    I had a sheep who was raised as a dog , she used to herd up the local sheep with her fellow working dog friends ( when I was a child ) , she would lie down , give paw, and run after the ball , guard the door when someone knocked, and the only difference between her and the dogs, was her wooly coat , and very strange bark attempts !

    .... The whole idea that certain animals are domesticated , is completely created by humans - ie , the animals more practical to have as pets ! A sheep sitting on your knee isn't so practical but the brains were there.

    As for putting gay sex and bestiality in the same boat - how moronic.
    Last edited by ukmissy; 12-20-2011 at 06:55 AM. Reason: spelled bestiality beastiality !!! Seemed more apt I didn't realise it was incorrect !

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    Quote Originally Posted by ukmissy View Post
    Really , Just about any animal will be domesticated if raised in a domestic environment , from a lion to a chicken ( based on facts -the chicken being mine ) ..... The only difference from one an animal to another - is how WE as humans see them . They're all living beating hearts and souls ( in my opinion - long term vegan )

    I had a sheep who was raised as a dog , she used to herd up the local sheep with her fellow working dog friends ( when I was a child ) , she would lie down , give paw, and run after the ball , guard the door when someone knocked, and the only difference between her and the dogs, was her wooly coat , and very strange bark attempts !

    .... The whole idea that certain animals are domesticated , is completely created by humans - ie , the animals more practical to have as pets ! A sheep sitting on your knee isn't so practical but the brains were there.

    As for putting gay sex and beastiality in the same boat - how moronic.
    I agree with that, and rarely eat meat these days because I feel bad. Both of my sisters are vegetarians so I've incorporated a lot of vegetarian/vegan food into my diet as well. I believe that all animals can be domesticated, but I wouldn't wanna be the lady who's loving chimp turned on her and she couldn't do anything because of his size lol. I do agree with you though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MommieLongLegs View Post
    I agree with that, and rarely eat meat these days because I feel bad. Both of my sisters are vegetarians so I've incorporated a lot of vegetarian/vegan food into my diet as well. I believe that all animals can be domesticated, but I wouldn't wanna be the lady who's loving chimp turned on her and she couldn't do anything because of his size lol. I do agree with you though.
    I agree, but in the same breath , many peoples loving dogs/cats/rats... etc turn on them also , many end up dead Any animal stronger/bigger teeth etc than humans has the ability to 'turn' . Christian the lion springs to mind - that story melted my heart .

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    Default Re: Government legalizes bestiality but we're headed toward martial law?!

    I still fail to see how a horse is different from a cow...when you hamg out with either, they both can be as sweet and loving as anything. Why do we as humans pick and choose intrinsic value of other creatures? Pigs are "smarter" than dogs and extremely friendly....ooo bacon! (veggie girl here)
    as for the gay sex being considered in the same context as bestiality...that is archaic and disgusting. But straight couples who enjoy anal get a free pass.
    Though the law isn't enforced, in utah, sodomy (which is illegal) includes everything except for missionary position between husband/wife. Masturbation is illegal in utah. But bestiality is fine by law. Wth?

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