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    I made the mistake of getting a second keratin treatment and the only thing that made a difference was Kerastase nectar thermique. It will last you forever and it doubles as a heat protectant!

    You probably did this but putting the blowdryer over a moisture mask is a nice touch too sometimes!

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    You can start by clarifying your hair with apple cider vinegar to restore its pH balance and porosity. Then a good way to get some moisture would be to apply a protein-free leave in conditioning product to your hair before bed and cover it with a plastic shower cap. I've done this method before and it's really helped.

    edited to say glycerin is great for sealing in moisture using a cap.

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    Usually most good grocery stores? I try to use only organic ACV with I can find at Whole Foods, or a health food store.

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    Products contain a ton of chemicals that damage your hair. You're better off hair oiling.
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    Baking soda, ACV and load 'er up with Coconut oil. Wrap yer head, sleep, wake up, rinse with more ACV....you should be in a better situation than you are now.



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    Quote Originally Posted by BringOnTheMen View Post
    So I just washed my hair with Paul Mitchell's Moisturizing Shampoo with baking soda in it, and put the B&B conditioner in with olive oil on top. Hopefully this helps.

    Question: can I use rice vinegar instead of apple cider vinegar?
    Use apple cider because its more acidic, therefore more clarifying. Removes the buildup so you can actually repair the hair. Otherwise, its like washing your face with a light cleanser when it really needs to be washed, then applying moisturizer. It just won't feel right.

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    I think acv is going to dry you out more. Matrix biolage line is good for moisture and has no protein. I've been using the delicate care color line but the moisture balm is one of the best for adding moisture. My hair was breaking off two years ago from using purelolgys nano which is there top of the line product. They have moisture but way too many proteins in them. Oh I forgot another good one is loreal professional line( they also make kerasate sp?) the intense repair is great, really expensive though like 60 for the shampoo and conditioner. I use it on my clip ins to keep them new and in my hair once a month or so because too much will make your hair flat after a while.

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    ^ I was thinking the same. Shampooing your hair too often, with anything is damaging. You should co-wash (wash with conditioner) more, especially if it's moisture that your hair needs. I only shampoo my hair twice a month. I wash with conditioner, once a week.

    Most moisturizers will work on the hair, but sealing in that moisture is key (which is why most people assume a lot of products won't work on their hair since they use 'em incorrectly). Also, a good moisturizer for the hair should list water in the first three ingredients, that let's you know it's water based (again, helps with locking in moisture). Apply that in your hair and seal it in with some type of oil. Sleep with that in and you should be fine if you do this every other night.

    I use a Cantu Shea Butter moisturizer for strengthening damaged hair, apply from ends to root and then use my coconut oil all over, tie my hair down, sleep and in the morning everything is pretty soft. Less manipulation of your hair is better.
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    I suffered protein overload before, and instead of researching what to do, I cut all my hair off. That was one solution... :-p But now I know that minimizing washing with shampoo down to once a week and applying a bit of jojoba oil or argan oil before bed remoisturizes AND saves hair.

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    Thanks for all the tips!! I did a "straightening" treatment in October for something different (I have long very curly hair).....I just had to cut 6 inches off due to dry dead ends!!! Yuck!! Wish I had found this thread last week!!

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    Try using morrocan oil masks and the oil. Its worked wonders on my hair. Ive used argan oil as well, but find that the morocan oil line works much better.

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    Default Re: Help! Protein overload!

    Too much protein is a problem. I say "mermaid soak" your hair in the bathtub then condition with a VO5 clarifying conditioner (no protein) and don't shampoo. For extra moisture whammy, take the V05 clarifying conditioner, add honey, aloe juice and glycerin - microwave for 15 seconds. Smush on hair, keep it on as long as you can stand. Then rinse. Diluted vinegar in water is optional to close the cuticle of the hair shafts.

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    Oils always work pretty well for me. Olive oil, coconut oil, argan oil, etc. Rinse with 2 parts water 1 part distilled white vinegar the next time you wash your hair, and go a couple cycles without using any treatments. Does your shampoo have sulfate in it? If so, I would recommend switching to another brand that doesn't. Organix works. So does No Frizz by Living Proof (AMAZING stuff). And Wen, sold by QVC, works really well, too.

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    Default Re: Help! Protein overload!

    For now - stop fucking with it.

    Slap some moisturizer like oil or leave in conditioner in it and then leave it for a few days. Once you've left it alone for a little while - wash your hair with a clarifying shampoo and follow this guide to figure out what your hair needs:

    http://eternalvoyageur.xanga.com/687...ur-hair-need-/

    but for now - if you've been treating it and washing it a lot, just leave it alone.

    Sometimes these things just need....time.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Savannah Lee View Post
    Try using morrocan oil masks and the oil. Its worked wonders on my hair. Ive used argan oil as well, but find that the morocan oil line works much better.
    I love Moroccan oil. It did wonders for me. It's basically argan oil, and it'd be cheaper for you to a large amount of argan oil. Saturate and leave on overnight. When you wash it out for the love of god don't blow dry your hair.

    As I have said a million times ad nauseum, I haven't blow dried my hair in 14 months now and it's never been better. I do straighten my hair, but I do it once a week, twice MAX. I only wash my hair once a week, and I always loosely tie it back before bed.

    I'm temped to post a before and after. But seriously- STOP WASHING IT, STOP BLOW DRYING IT, and if you have to heat style put protector in it. You should look into heat free styling. If you keep washing it and putting product in it, you're going to make it worse and have a horrific mess to deal with. I speak from experience.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BringOnTheMen View Post
    Now I am beginning to think I need MORE protein. I read somewhere that hair that stretches needs more protein, and my hair stretches a lot. WTF IS GOING ON???!!!!!
    You can absolutely have too much of a good thing. Too much protein can be just as bad as not enough. You've got to find the right balance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4everresolutions View Post
    Baking soda, ACV and load 'er up with Coconut oil. Wrap yer head, sleep, wake up, rinse with more ACV....you should be in a better situation than you are now.

    I can vouch for this treatment. Amazing results.


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    Omg, I tried the AVC rinse and my hair felt amazing after!! I did a little research and the ACV works to restore alkaline balance in your hair's ph level. Def good for hair that is overloaded with protein. That's one of my pet peeves... it seems like every shampoo/conditioner out there has protein in it!! I've become obsessed with avoiding it for the very reason you stated, my hair just has too much and has become dry and brittle as a result. I checked out the new and improved L'anza line because it was sulfate and protein free, so far I'm liking it a lot. I use the Color Shield shampoo and Kukui Nut conditioner along with the leave-in Trauma Treatment occasionally. I followed all the advice on this thread: do coconut oil masks, add baking soda to my shampoo, do ACV rinses, and use argan oil as a leave-in. My hair is so happy right now.

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    Are all L'anza shampoos and conditioners protein and sulfate free? I'm looking for some new shampoo and conditioner that's gentle but moisturizing without sulfates, silicones or protein... Very dry, damaged hair here.

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    What is protein Overload?

    "Protein Overload" is a term used when there is an abundance of protein vs. moisture in the hair.

    Here is an example of how you can rid yourself of "Protein Overload":

    First, Clarify the hair to remove all product build up. This is necessary because the products you use after will have a better chance at penetrating.

    Do a 30-45min deep condition with a thick moisture rich conditioner under heat. Rinse with lukewarm water.

    Optional - Follow up with an Apple Cider Vinegar rinse to help close the hair cuticles and lock in moisture.

    Use a moisturizing leave-in conditioner, then style.

    It's recommended that you follow this "moisture based routine" for 2-3 weeks since it does take more than 1-2 washes to see an improvement.

    Ways to avoid/overcome "Protein Overload":
    After using a protein based conditioner or reconstructor, always follow up with a moisture rich deep conditioner for 20-30mins with heat or 1 hour without heat.
    Stay clear of moisturizers with proteins in them i.e. Collagen, Keratin etc. (unless your hair responds well to them).
    Moisturize and seal daily.
    Baggy your ends often.
    Use protein treatments maximum once a week, if you're relaxed, or once a month if you're are natural.

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