ya i am doing 5 sites sm free loaders can go to hell.no free shit here they pay in excu or ignore.
ya i am doing 5 sites sm free loaders can go to hell.no free shit here they pay in excu or ignore.
new to the cam world just here for some infotips
new to the cam world just here for some infotips
i have to say i had a great time today dealing with "the" idiots..
whatever they would say , i;d say it back to them LOL
and the names...
them"you're a dumb whore".........
me : you;re a dumb whore!!! AND that makes u a gay whore LOL
them : Ill give u $5 to show ass
me: ill give you $10 to shut the hell up LOL
seriously I had fun today![]()



let me know who to report~ thanks girls~ this will not be mfc~ i have one recorded





all i know is that i hope this shit gets taken care of before the weekend starts. i don't need these cheap studio girls messing with my weekend money.
Last edited by kaiarose; 01-13-2012 at 07:00 AM.
guess i have to wait and see then take it from there. i dont do internet drama. just want to know.later. i never hate on anyone i say do your thing good for you. hope not another mfc . that all. xoxo good night.
new to the cam world just here for some infotips



let me know who to report~ thanks girls~ this will not be mfc~ i have one recorded



I don't know anything about who is who or what bans you ladies are talking about. My only real complaint at this point is that all of the taunts, teases and tits that I USED to get paid for is being given away for free.. its doing nothing but encouraging men to become desensitized to free teases, taunts and tits. And again, I'm not deliberately calling everyone out but look at Ferr.. (car name). She used to set her goal for $750.. topless, pissing her panties, legs up in the air, swirling her hips with her pussy to the cam. She's struggling to meet a $250 goal now!! Why? It was a shocker at first, a novelty, a forbidden fruit.. but now... They EXPECT to see it... FREE
I remember making $1k a day just sitting there in panties and undies talking to guys about their day playing the stock market and how "turned on" I was by their heroic money making efforts, "Oh baby you are just a genius with numbers.. mmmmmmm, sooo sexy!!". They used to pay $500 just for me to boost their ego. A lonely guy with a fat wallet just looking for some scantily clad Q.T. PIE to hang out with. It's near impossible now -- all their needs are being met in free chat!!
Now? I have no clue how to get a man in my chat room. Here I am, one of the original camgirls and I DONT KNOW HOW to get a paid cam show.
WTH!!


Yup....why would they feel the need to pay when they can get it all for free? This sort of thing needs to stop or else all the guys will expect to see everything for free and it will become a lose lose situation for everyone.



I miss the days of blind log ins based on nothing but a photo and a profile. If you wanted to see a live girl, you paid to see her. None of this free chat bull shit.


Amen.




We all miss those days. Oh and the cameras were grainy! I still have a shitty old webcam from 7 years ago (but would never dare use it). Currently I use a sony evi D100 or my built in facetime HD on my mac. I own some logitechs, but rarely use them.
My income has actually gone up in the past month or so. Don't hate on me, but I am one of the nutty cam girls some of you are talking about. I have been known to sit around topless as well as cam from outdoor places. I don't put up with bullshit or guys commanding me around in free chat with no tip. Wanna see my ass? Show some $ first. Wanna see my tits when I am sitting around with a top on? Show me the money first. I have also been known to be on cam wearing full length regular jeans and a sweater (sometimes I am the most clothed girl on the site). If you want to direct me around in free chat I am known to say "put up or shut up". But for the most part I am a polite individual (just don't try to direct me around).
I will say this though; I have noticed that I have to put a lot more effort into my "free" chat rooms. I have spent thousands on upgrading technology (cams, computers, internet) and lots of effort planning and scheming. Its not as simple as just turning on a cam anymore.
What's going on? Something did happen, right? These last two weeks have been hell, this week I barely made $150!!!! What is going on with all this free shit!!! OMG, I'm losing my mind! I had more rude, freeloading assholes these 2 weeks (especially this week) not only was I insulted several time today but there was complaining about my prices when there hasn't been one in the past. Seriously, no one has ever been mean to me on SM nor had I ever had a complaint on price. I understand that eventually that would have happened because that's the nature of the business but I have to admit it was like culture shock cause soooo much crapped happened this week, it was insane and massive.




What I don't like is how SM selectively applies the rules. I usually sit between rows 2-6, sometimes 1 if I am doing well. However last week I was banned for 3 days with a letter stating I was nude below the waist. For the life of me I could not figure out when or where this happened as I always have panties on. I figure that snapshot may have caught me when I was in "break mode" directly after a private. Yes it still continues to take snap shots for your placement if you are in break, hence why you sometimes see walls or computer chairs.
Last fall I was suspended for 3 days for blood play even though it was simulated (ie fake blood).
Now I have seen girls on the first row showing off camel toes (bunching the thong between the pussy) close up to the cam, girls calling guys "daddy" or themselves "mommy" and even brother/sister talk. Now I can't be for sure that they were not punished, but part of me does wonder about this. Are they selectively applying the rules?
SM has been slow as fuck tonight. I noticed the girls in the top two rows don't have very many people in their room, either. Doesn't help that someone is doing a 20 minute gold show for $1. But it looks like everyone is struggling with their gold shows. Logging off for now and looking for other sites to sign up with as a backup.
Hopefully some of this is just from it being after the holidays? Are more people financially strapped right now?



I've been working the gold shows since they first came out and I was doing really well. Then about a month ago, they came to a screeching halt. I can't get a gold show started to save my life. But I am getting a ton of privates so for me at least, it's evened out. It's just weird that it was such a sudden shift.
I think we're all just jumping the gun a bit in surmising the decline of SM. The holidays just got finished. Give the dudes a couple weeks to financially recoup and then let's make a decision.
"If I can't dance, I don't want to be part of your revolution." ~ Emma Goldman





And he called you 'vulgar' just for calling him out? That fool doesn't even know what 'vulgar' means! LMAO. He needs to go sit down somewhere and open up a dictionary instead of freeloading cam sites. In fact, guys like him who call us 'bitches', 'whores', etc. are the ones who are vulgar.
Also, ironically, I've noticed that a lot of guys with the word 'money' in their screen name or 'tip' in their screen name turn out to be the ones who we don't see tipping (I notice it on MFC too)...lol.
I had a guy on SM once say "LOL. A cam whore preaching to us!" (or something similar) after I told people in my room to stop begging/demanding freebies. Of course the asswipe ran out my room as soon as he posted that, so I couldn't ban him in time.
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Nope, and it doesn't matter if a guy gives you all the gold he has...you cannot fuck a dildo in public chat. That's what premium, exclusive, and gold shows are for. Anyone who tells you differently is either sadly mistaken, trying to get you in trouble, or they're just some guy trying to see toy play for free. Also, you're not supposed to show below the waist nudity. I'm still seeing girls with room topics that say "$5 GOLD for ass," and maybe they're just referring to showing their ass WITH panties on, but when guys see that topic they're gonna expect BARE ASS and will most likely bitch and whine if they don't get it.![]()
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Also, as much as we'd like to hope it's JUST because of guys recovering from the holidays, I don't think that's what it is. MAYBE a tiny percentage has something to do with that, but it sounds like it's mostly due to gold shows. It seems like all guys talk about in public chat rooms are gold shows. "You should do a gold show like everyone else." LMAO. And guys trying to tell girls how to run their rooms, and telling them what they should charge ("You should make it $2 for 30 minutes!")...smh. Ridiculous.....
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Gold shows have been around since the spring/summer (was it June when they first started?). We all made bank during December and now there's a sudden drop off in earnings. I don't think it's entirely due to gold shows. While I don't doubt that gold shows are doing a number on our earnings as a whole, this current slump seems to have popped up rather suddenly, making me think it has other causes besides just gold shows.
"If I can't dance, I don't want to be part of your revolution." ~ Emma Goldman
Yeah, I'm thinking there has to be something more to it then the gold shows. I've been checking on the girls in the top row at random times throughout the night and there are literally like, barely any guys in their room. It's fucking depressing. The *most* that I've seen in their rooms tonight is 28 (not bad but not a lot for being up that high), I'm looking at a couple people in the top row who have like 8 people in their room. Other girls near the top have like 2 or 3 people. I've also noticed that a lot of the models I'm used to seeing haven't been on much this past week.
I have to wonder...is it at all possible that streamate is doing less advertising right now for some reason? Seems really unlikely but just throwing it out there, since I would be surprised if this was entirely a post-holiday crash (although I still think that's very possible).
How are things on the other cam sites?
Edit: NVM about the advertising, since there's the new commercials...hmm.
Last edited by amberose; 01-13-2012 at 07:57 AM.



Well, looking at it from a different view; I have not been on cam and generating as much revenue for SM over the last couple of months and wont be able to for at least 1 more month. As a result my placement has dropped significantly, going from middle page 1 to bottom of page 2. So, my lack of a regular schedule plus missing several days at a time has hurt me. But.. BEFORE gold shows I was averaging $100/hr. Post gold shows my hourly average fluctuates between $20 and $75/hr. There are some days when I log in and don't get a show at all.
It wasn't until 6 to 8 weeks after gold shows first started did things start to level back out but my income has never returned to $100/hr and shows usually come in the form of waves as opposed to steady traffic (though it's always been that way I think). Either way, it's a significant change.
I feel taken advantage of and degraded often on SM. When I say this, I think about the large percentage of non-spenders who create accounts just to hop around from chat room to chat room, watching the girls who don't quite grasp the concept that the more she shows the less they'll spend. I'm tired of dealing with the fallout of failed gold show girls who push the limits then cancel their shows, leaving those guys to wander into MY chat room.
The failed gold show are guys logging in demanding "asssssssss" and "titties bb" ..........and the other ones, the ones who log on without a simple "hello" and just sit there, waiting for me to do something-- which is not going to happen. I'm not going to do any kind of show in free chat, and if I sit there fully clothed from mid-chest up for 20 minutes, these guys don't get it so I'm gone. I log off.
..and the free 30 second BULLSHIT! This isn't working for me.. nut uh. There are guys who routinely log in for 28 seconds and they make a day of it. NOW even the paying customers are starting to catch on. They log in for 5 minutes, log out.. "oops I got d/c'd". Come back another 3 minutes.. "sorry d/c'd again".. Bullshit they got dc'd. They are adding up their minutes!
It would make it so much easier to ride the waves if there was some sort of timer in effect where those silent lurkers and freeloaders were bounced out of the chat rooms and onto a "load your account" page with some kind of notice reminding them it is a pay-per-view site and not a site where bandwidth usage is unlimited to the non-spender. If after 2 weeks they are logging on but not spending, close the account and keep the "load your account" funds if only to send the message that "OK asshole, you are on our site, wasting our bandwidth, abusing our models.. now you can call your bank and explain to them you'd like a refund from a porn site".
*sigh*
I know SM wont do that because it's already a high risk account but I'm sure with a little ingenuity there IS a solution.
Last edited by CammingSince97; 01-13-2012 at 09:28 AM.
I would have loved to be camming back in the "good ol' days" that I hear about sometimes, when camgirls were viewed as a luxury and men were willing to pay. Now there are so many camsites (I cant even keep up with the amount) and there's so many free shows going on, I just dont see where the incentive is for men to spend. I could go into a few sites right now and guaranteed I'll see a dildo up a cootch and a hot woman cumming.
Yes, there are men still willing to pay for one on one time but I dont want to think about the number of them that are just going from site to site stroking it. Just in the past year I've noticed a huge decrease in my earnings and a huge increase in beggars.
For me camming isnt worth it anymore because if I cant make enough to pay bills, have rent, have savings and a few extra dollars for fun then what's the point? I may as well go get a mainstream job and not have to deal and rely on these guys for my money.
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