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    I am really not digging all these sites that tell you that you can't play music in your room now. F4F and all their mirrors, WCC/CW and their mirrors and I'm sure there are others (there always are, aren't there?)

    Music makes it easier for me to strip and not look like a spaz and it just mentally keeps me going and in the mood. No music = a spazzy, boring me who can't splitcam!

    When I complained about this to RP he said, "They're saying, 'No music! Waaahh! We don't want to be suuuued!'" I guess that makes sense? I should have asked him to explain but uhhhhh basically I don't get it. Something about DCMA and recorded videos? But SM (and MFC?) and tons of other sites record THEIR videos, how do THEY get around it?


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    I don't know about the laws in other countries but I'm pretty sure that in the UK breach of copyright has nothing to do with whether a profit is made or not. It's the same thing as not being able to use music in youtube videos (without permission). If you are broadcasting the music without permission then it's a breach. As it's the site who is broadcasting by putting the live stream through its site then it is they who have to decide whether they are going for strict legal compliance or risking it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IsobelWren View Post
    I am really not digging all these sites that tell you that you can't play music in your room now. F4F and all their mirrors, WCC/CW and their mirrors and I'm sure there are others (there always are, aren't there?)

    Music makes it easier for me to strip and not look like a spaz and it just mentally keeps me going and in the mood. No music = a spazzy, boring me who can't splitcam!

    When I complained about this to RP he said, "They're saying, 'No music! Waaahh! We don't want to be suuuued!'" I guess that makes sense? I should have asked him to explain but uhhhhh basically I don't get it. Something about DCMA and recorded videos? But SM (and MFC?) and tons of other sites record THEIR videos, how do THEY get around it?



    I know what you mean. I feel weird recording clips without music. The only reason I do is that I read on here that AW is strict about music being played in video clips. So for some of the clips, I'll just end up having two copies available. Copy A (without music) will be for AW, and Copy B (with music) will be for C4S, etc.
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    I ran into thhis issue a few years ago on youtube. I'd post videos of me hoopdancing to various music and many of them were either removed or they would disable the music and sub it with some awful music. I got tired of it and just took them down. The only ones they allowed to stay were the ones I had used Garbage (I guess they don't mind if you use their music). But the entire hooping community was in an uproar about it.No one was making and money from the videos (and no one was trying), we just wanted to share our breakthroughs and talents and figured why would a band/musician want to limit FREE advertisement of their music from people watching the videos? So, we would chance getting caught and having our videos pulled.

    So, hoopers began seeking out bands that didn't mind the use of their music, like Garbage, and local bands and musicians who would appreciate the free advertisement brought forth from the videos and then there were bands who actually sought hoopers out to use their music in their videos. There are still hoopers who use mainstream music, but they also risk being pulled.

    The issue is that when the music is played, even for free like on the radio, the companies are not being compensated through their royalties. Even the radio stations playing music on the radio pays the artist and labels royalties. That's where the issue lies. Even the NFL limits SB party broadcasts. Did you hear how they shut down parties that were being thrown at churches for the youth groups? They threatened to send them a nice bill.
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    I usually listen to Pandora radio while I cam. It's free for anyone to use so I wonder if there would be an issue listening to that on those sites that don't want you to play music for copyright reasons. Probably not but it's a thought. Also with Spotify you can listen to whole albums without needing to buy it.

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    I go back and forth with music when camming. But in the early, early morning hours if I camming I def need music. DEFINITELY!

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    I can't remember where it was now (though I'm looking) but I just read this thing about SOPA (Stop Online Piracy Act) and playing music while camming. There's supposedly some changes to the act being talked about that would allow them to go after websites, not just individuals. And the fear is that even if you're not playing music, if other people are then the site could be found in violation and shut down.

    It would be really hard to cam without music for me. I even leave it on when in private, though it's turned down so low that really only I can hear it. It feels really awkward to me to sit in silence and talk (or moan) to myself. For some reason, it doesn't if I have music playing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IsobelWren View Post
    I am really not digging all these sites that tell you that you can't play music in your room now. F4F and all their mirrors, WCC/CW and their mirrors and I'm sure there are others (there always are, aren't there?)

    Music makes it easier for me to strip and not look like a spaz and it just mentally keeps me going and in the mood. No music = a spazzy, boring me who can't splitcam!

    When I complained about this to RP he said, "They're saying, 'No music! Waaahh! We don't want to be suuuued!'" I guess that makes sense? I should have asked him to explain but uhhhhh basically I don't get it. Something about DCMA and recorded videos? But SM (and MFC?) and tons of other sites record THEIR videos, how do THEY get around it?
    SM DID ASK us not to play it as loud or not at all.. Same reason..have you seen the you tube vids where the music is ripped but the "cartoon" is still going? LOL that's why.. they don't have the artist permission. Everyone knows I am a big KID ROCK fan and he is one of the main ones who rips his down from others..they can use the music and be "creative and twist it for artistic purpose's" but they cannot stream the whole song. He rips it. He offers his music on there and all links go back to his site..SMART MAN..I also love this video he made for pirating bc that is what most of us unknowingly are doing...LMAO http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VpCADfZD-eg He summed it up like the typical smart ass..We feel the same about our content. Maybe this helps clear it up. I love his sarcasm.

    LOL same thing as Blake posted basicly

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    ^^^^^^ I wondered about Pandora as well. That s what I play for a good mix but sometimes I skip so much .....aggravating .. we do need music...How do night clubs get by with it?

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    Generally DJ's at night clubs will purchase licenses to play the music or only play royalty-free music, at least that's what I've researched on the matter.

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    F4F's music policy does suck especially since you can play music on other sites no problem. It's obviously not that big of a liability if other big sites have been doing it for years. Makes it so hard to get into the groove. You do have a couple options: 1) You can play their approved music, but unless you like getting down to elevator music, this isn't the option for you. 2) Make a CD of you singing all your favorite songs and play that

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    Latin- I think Kid Rock would be cool with you using his music. He seems to have a special place in his heart for strippers. Probably camgirls, too.

    PS You guys would make a cute couple!

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    Make a CD of you singing all your favorite songs and play that
    LOL, I love that idea. I'm a really bad singer, so it's a hilarious thought. The guys would tip me to turn it off.

    Instead of take it off there'd be turn it off!

    F4F has approved music? Where's the list?


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    Would music under a creative commons license work? I usually use headphones anyway, due to my... eclectic taste in music. Even -I- find the contrast between songs to be jarring sometimes!

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    hoopers ftw!

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    i only play music when i'm doing tipdowns but i've never gotten shit for it...streamate and mfc are pretty lax about it in my experience. i'm wondering the same thing about creative commons licensed stuff - although if the site makes it a blanket rule i guess you're kind of screwed even if you're not playing something copyrighted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IsobelWren View Post
    LOL, I love that idea. I'm a really bad singer, so it's a hilarious thought. The guys would tip me to turn it off.

    Instead of take it off there'd be turn it off!

    F4F has approved music? Where's the list?
    Just go the the "Tools" tab and click Free Music. Trust me, you won't like it. It's literally elevator music. F4F doesn't say anything about different licenses, just that no music can be played except what they've approved. Earbuds are the way to go

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    I always play music, but the volume is low enough that it doesn't register on cam
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    The reasons the sites themselves and not just the cam girl would be cited in violation is that while live is not a huge deal it seems at this point (that would be both making a profit with copyright infringement), the sites themselves are selling the vids of our privates and own the copyright to the material that we produce via private.

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    beemp3, is a really great site to download music..just saying.

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    @LusciousBBW OMG I'm a hoopdancer too Sorry for the thread jack, but I had to comment on that one. I looove hooping!

    But, anyway, if these PIPA & SOPA bills pass we're not going to be able to play music on any site.

    http://wordpress.org/extend/plugins/sopa-blackout/

    I'm blacking out my blogs for the protest, and I'm def. not camming on that day.

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    Ooh thanks for the link, tasha! I'm gonna join in the black out too.

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    Maybe some pretty/small, wireless headphones would be a good option.

    I hoop dance too, lol (still kinda new at it though).

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