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    At my old club I was top dog, I could hustle a guy just by looking at him. I've been in the game two years and I bravely thought that I was a good stripper.
    Now I'm doubting the fuck out of that statement.
    Started at a classy club in London.
    I'm used to clubs where if there is already 1 girl speaking to a guy you DO NOT approach that guy, and if you do that bitch will cut your hands off with a blunt spoon after the manager has shouted you down. This club however is a free for all. On my first night I counted 7 girls talking to 1 guy. 7! He looked petrified.
    On my second night I sat down to chat to a custie and another girl came over and stole him from me right before my eyes. At first he tried to remain loyal to me and kept turning back to me but she was all over him, rubbing his shoulders and chest, flicking her hair everywhere, stroking him, laughing really loudly at nothing. The dude had no choice but to become entranced by her. At first I tried the 'alpha-female' approach by sitting back and pulling a mock-the-bitch face but then I realised.. Fuck me, I've just been out hustled.
    Which is a big problem because this club is not busy with guys who'll buy a few single dances. It has a handful of patrons who'll spend obscene amounts of money. I NEED that close or I go home with nothing.
    And now I just feel like shit. I spent ages being spoken down to on my third night by a bouncer as we watched the following proceedings go on:

    A Prince came in. Actual royalty. And he was placed in a VIP booth with his mates, who spent about 45mins-1 hour peeking around the curtain at the crowd of girls and occassionally pointing at one who would then enter the booth and be paid for the rest of the night.
    All the barmen and bouncers told me to go over and stand with the other 30 girls. The rest of the guys in the club were left alone. I loitered around the area but I just couldn't bring myself to do it. I felt like a prize dick. The DJ put the guys national anthem on and they all screamed, jumped up and started dancing. It was like the world's most shit audition to be an eligible stripper princess. I felt both that I didn't want to compete and that I couldn't.

    Anyway, the bouncer rattled on about how I could make money in this joint once I've settled down, but that I'd need to be a cut throat bitch.

    And here is the thing I'm really, really struggling with. I am a nice person. I don't know how to be a bitch, let alone want to be one. My old techniques of letting everyone do their own thing but making sure the custies were attracted to me aren't gonna work here. I've never cared about competition, or back stabbing, it's just never been applicable.
    At what point do you sacrifice who you are at the core of your being to earn money? If I start acting like a bitch in work is that not gonna start to reflect on my personality outside of work?
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    Default Re: New Club. Where the FUCK did my hustle go? Helllllp

    Quote Originally Posted by mariesgame View Post
    At what point do you sacrifice who you are at the core of your being to earn money?
    Thing is, and this just my opinion here, but making sales isn't about "who you are". Making sales is about making someone believe it's a good idea to give you money for a product that may or may not be worth it.
    If your new club requires you sell more aggressively... and you aren't willing or are unable to do it... you should switch clubs. It's not really a huge deal, imo.

    Was there a reason you left your old club/are you able to go back to it?
    Sometimes learning to be a bitch AT work can effect how you treat people outside of work... so if that's a major concern, you're probably best off not learning to hustle like that and sticking with your former club may be a better option for you.
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    i am losing my fucking mind and i really just want this chloroform dream because i think that would just get me right with jesus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DesuvsDeath View Post
    Was there a reason you left your old club/are you able to go back to it?
    Sometimes learning to be a bitch AT work can effect how you treat people outside of work... so if that's a major concern, you're probably best off not learning to hustle like that and sticking with your former club may be a better option for you.
    Nope, I've moved cities.
    I guess the real question here figuring out whether I can make money at this club without being a bitch.

    Maybe I labelled this post wrong.. I can hustle a guy easily when I have the chance to speak to him, but I don't hustle as aggressively as the other girls do, especially when they're sitting opposite me trying to pull him away from me. And I can't figure out how to stand in a crowd of girls versus 1 guy and get 'chosen'.

    You're right about convincing someone to spend money on the product, but don't you think the way you sell it defines who you are? And even if it isn't at first, do you not eventually become what you say?

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    I don't think the way you sell it defines who you are. If that were the case... my 'club persona' would've rubbed off on me by now and I'd actually be friendly irl. lol It's a matter of separating yourself and your personal life from who you are and what you do in the club.

    You can always be more aggressive and commanding without being a bitch.
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    i am losing my fucking mind and i really just want this chloroform dream because i think that would just get me right with jesus.

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    Get an alter ego that personifies the girl that's going to become top dog at this club like you were at the other. Then blame everything on her...

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    London has DOZENS of clubs... Perhaps try another? Like DD said, if the hustle just isnīt your style and you canīt adjust (I wouldnīt last long in the environment youīre describing either), thereīs no shame in moving on to another club where you can make money more easily. If anything, itīs a wise business move! In the īreal worldī people often switch jobs because they just werenīt a good fit or couldnīt adjust to the corporate culture, and thatīs okay.

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    Yikes, I've worked in clubs like that and it's so hard to make money. You have to assimilate or move on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shanna dior View Post
    London has DOZENS of clubs... Perhaps try another?
    Can you recommend any?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mariesgame View Post
    Can you recommend any?
    Unfortunately I havenīt worked in London yet, so I have no personal experience. Iīve seen posts about Metropolis being worthwhile though, so could be worth a shot.

    On a slightly unrelated note, Iīm actually going to be moving to the city in mid-February. If you donīt mind, Iīd really appreciate if you could let me know the name of this club so I donīt waste my time there. You can PM if youīre more comfortable with that! In any case, once I get in town we can divide and conquer the list of clubs in London until we find one thatīs good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shanna dior View Post
    Unfortunately I havenīt worked in London yet, so I have no personal experience. Iīve seen posts about Metropolis being worthwhile though, so could be worth a shot.
    noooooooooo, this is a bad idea. i just quit dancing at metropolis coz its been so dead since xmas. sure. there's not many girls but there's barely any customers either. most of the girls have barely been making house fee. things might pick up there in a bit but i wouldn't recommend it right now.

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    If I were you I would check out other clubs but still keep this one...you might find something that you like better or you might find the one you are at to be great...sometimes it just takes a little bit time to adjust and it does sound like it is possible to make big money there! I would def give it a week or two.

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    Default Re: New Club. Where the FUCK did my hustle go? Helllllp

    I have a similar problem. I am more of a gentle hustler, sit and talk and win them over. I have a hard time being bitchy and uber-aggressive. I don't like to piss other girls off and being very aggressive normally does that.

    However, if they are doing the same to you, you might as well do the same to them.
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    you gotta be fucking ruthless at work. i suggest adopting a new way to hustle. you can do it, but you gotta kick it up a few notches

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    This week has been a lot better.
    I have not battled with anyone for attention, I just pick my timings carefully and rely on my hustle.
    Its really embarrassing to listen to some of these girls as they try and pry your customers away. IMO aggressive hustling without any subtlety is just cringeworthy. And you can see it in the guys eyes. Whatever, it works for them and I'm starting to find what works for me. Still, gonna take Cairalis' advice and try another club whilst keeping this one.
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    I just started at a club where the girls act like that too and it just ruins my mindset cause I'm trying to have positive "energy". I find though that once you're not that new anymore it dies down. Those kinda girls wanna try the new girls..

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    Boom. Over Ģ1200 in one night. Goddam commission to the club.
    Job done.
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    Default Re: New Club. Where the FUCK did my hustle go? Helllllp

    Wow, this sounds very similar to my situation. Recently moved back to London, classy club. It's the way the girls work that I struggle with. I'm used to a smaller club where we worked as a bit of a team (sounds silly, but that's how it felt). I'm not dealing well with this new everyone for themselves attitude! I need to change my game or change clubs I think!
    Let us know how you get on with new clubs if you switch. Considering trying out a few others, although I've heard that most places in London are fairly similar.

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