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    Question Escorts - two questions

    I'm getting ready to start escorting and I'm wondering about two things as I'm getting ready to "launch" . The first thing is the various blacklisting sites... I'm trying to decide which one(s) to sign up for, and I'm not sure which one is the most trustworthy and useful. Before I crack out my credit card, do you guys have any advice? I've been looking at VerifyHim.com (I think this starts free and you have to pay after 10 searches?), DangerZone411, and NationalBlacklist. I also plan on signing up for ProviderBuzz because it's free, and I'd love to be on P411 but currently you can only be verified by a client or after you have 5 reviews. Which sites do you guys find most useful?

    The other question was, what do you take with you when you go out to appointments? I've had a few appointments already but I can admit I didn't really know what I was doing in terms of what I needed, should provide for clients etc. I can think of lots of things to take with me, like lingerie, toys, baby wipes etc, but would it be weird for me to show up with a big bag of stuff? The few times I've gone to clients in the past, I just had my regular purse with the essentials, but I want to have an actual escorting bag, in the same way that I have my dancer bag that I take to the club.

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    With P411 my friend was able to get on there without any reviews, she said she kept emailing them basically explaining how she is a new provider and need to use thier service for saferty etc. so I guess with P411 you could get on there if you email them enough. it sounds like your in the USA. so you pretty much kinda have to use all of them and see which one works best for you.

    As for what to bring with you on outcall pretty much whatever you need It might end up being a big bag but clients don't really provide anything. when I am out on a date I pretty much bring everything I need sometimes you can the raddle of the glass toys in my bag which is always fun :-)
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    When I first started, I subscribed to National Blacklist, but they peeved me off because at first my credit card wouldnt go through, and there was no reason for that so I emailed them. I then realized I used the wrong zipcode, tried again and it worked. About a week later, they replied to my email saying that my card was declined and showed me records of the declined card..problem was, my card was fine, but the records they showed me was for another girl...in Canada even. With full name, address, everthing...she happened to be signing up the same day I was, but the only thing we had in common was our first name.

    I went off on them and sent them a seething email about breach of privacy and how stupid could they be to send me that kind of information, that shes lucky they sent it to me and not some nutcase who might use her personal information in a bad way, and well...I flipped out on them. I never heard back and I cancelled my membership with them. Besides, I found much better databases.

    VerifyHim,the full paid membership is so worth it, and it gives *a lot* more information than the free search offers.
    ProviderBuzz is also great, but it was hard for me to get onto. I had to have reviews and was a member of DateCheck before they approved my account.

    Those are the only two screening sites I use now, and have found guys Ive looked up on blacklists there.

    I also use other tools, like email traces (to make sure a guy is actually located where he says he is)
    And I use phone number searches to find the service and name on their phone account, which sometimes is different from the name they give me.

    As for what I bring to a date, I carry a large sized purse, but the only things in it really are condoms in different sizes, and lube. And my purse has a secret compartment where I put the money they give me...just me being paranoid cause Ive heard of guys stealing back their money. Even though I keep my eye on my purse all the time, if someone is going to be slick, its going to take them a moment to find the money to take it... Anything sexy Im going to wear is under my clothes, I keep it light and simple.

    I dont bring toys, and the few times a guy has requested it, I tell them to provide it, or I tell them it will be extra because for hygienic purposes, Ill have to buy new ones and they have to bring extra for the cost. Either way, I want them new, in package when I see them, unless they want me to use it on them, then thats their choice if they want to use toys they already have.
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    for safety , i have a tazer that looks like a cell phone - I bought it at a local store for $80.0 but found the same one online for $50.00 - it's in a leather carry case just like a regular cell phone. i can keep it out in plain site and the client never knows that it is a tazer - I carry a small suitcase - carry-on size loaded with my domme equipment and other items - i dont take it in with me but i have it in the trunk of my car if needed - Like they said above - i carry new unopened toys to sell to the clients - and like she said - ALWAYS move your money and never leave your purse alone with the client -

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    Quote Originally Posted by teaze View Post
    Has anyone tried both national blacklist and verify him? I use national blacklist and it has been really helpful. But, I've also heard good things about how useful verifyhim is. Plus verifyhim has really good tips for different screening methods on that site too. Wondering if I should cancel NationalBlacklist and do verifyhim instead...
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    I've never used Verify Him. They're based in SE Asia so I wasn't sure if they were of any use. Providerbuzz is free and contains many entries from The National Blacklist. But its good to have both (I never had issues with NBL). It may be good to invest in a skiptrace program and email tracer.

    As for the bag, I have a caboodles bag that is slightly smaller than a ladies' bowling bag. It has two separate sides: one side is for toiletries and makeup (its also the side i use if i must open my bag in public for gum or something) and the other side is for lingerie, a few toys and other naughty things. I can even keep a pair of heels inside if I arrange it properly. Its black and sleek looking so it goes with everything. Only 20 bucks at Rite Aid!

    Quote Originally Posted by Miss_McKenna View Post
    I'm getting ready to start escorting and I'm wondering about two things as I'm getting ready to "launch" . The first thing is the various blacklisting sites... I'm trying to decide which one(s) to sign up for, and I'm not sure which one is the most trustworthy and useful. Before I crack out my credit card, do you guys have any advice? I've been looking at VerifyHim.com (I think this starts free and you have to pay after 10 searches?), DangerZone411, and NationalBlacklist. I also plan on signing up for ProviderBuzz because it's free, and I'd love to be on P411 but currently you can only be verified by a client or after you have 5 reviews. Which sites do you guys find most useful?

    The other question was, what do you take with you when you go out to appointments? I've had a few appointments already but I can admit I didn't really know what I was doing in terms of what I needed, should provide for clients etc. I can think of lots of things to take with me, like lingerie, toys, baby wipes etc, but would it be weird for me to show up with a big bag of stuff? The few times I've gone to clients in the past, I just had my regular purse with the essentials, but I want to have an actual escorting bag, in the same way that I have my dancer bag that I take to the club.

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    Verifyhim is one of the best out there. Just sayin.

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    I only skimmed through the thread so I'm not sure if someone said this already but don't have anything on you that could indicate you offer sexual services. Condoms, toys, etc. They need to provide those things. On the phone, I used to tell them the cost of the activity (dinner bill, movie tickets, etc) will not be deducted from their donation and they are to provide any PROPS for our DATE.
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    Always ask your client if they have any requests so you know exactly what to put in your bag. I have one luggage bag that carries all my supplies that I leave with my driver, and a large handbag to carry my things for the specific appointment, and switch out the items as needed for dates.

    My basics: hair powder and brush (for cleaning up after messy bjs), vaginal wipes - I love the Summer's Eve ones, they have the kind like baby wipes (great for incall) and individually packaged ones (perfect for outcall), baby wipes, regular lube, flavored lube (for clients who want cbj), a selection of toys/bdsm gear, makeup of course with moisturizer! if you give sloppy bjs your lower face will dry out if you don't moisturize frequently, lots of water to stay hydrated, NoDoze, Afrin, condoms (duh, but I've forgotten them before! don't forget Magnums)

    I used to not ask for requests, but I've found that since I do and bring my own props, I get more repeats and better reviews, so in the end the trouble is worth it to me See what works for you and go for it!

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    I agree to do what works for you just be smart and be careful. I should have clarified sorry. I just meant that legally it would be something that could be used against you to bring toys, ample condoms, and so on. If you claim that the service you offer is time, bringing those things would indicate otherwise. If you're not worried about that, hopefully because you have done the proper screening which I do admit when I escorted I didn't smh, then by all means go for it
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    No real complaints with Verifyhim for me. I used to bring a bag with some toys, all the basic hygiene stuff (wipes, chap-stick, perfume, etc), and bring all sorts of condoms. I'm at a point now that I only do incalls though, which I find much less stressful. I know not everyone can do this, especially if you are just starting out, but it sure makes things easier when you can.
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    Quote Originally Posted by teaze View Post
    In your post you wrote about how you had credit card and customer service issues with nationalblacklist. I'm looking for feedback on the pro's and cons of nationalblacklist and how useful it is compared to verifyhim.
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    Besides, I found much better databases.

    VerifyHim,the full paid membership is so worth it, and it gives *a lot* more information than the free search offers.
    ProviderBuzz is also great, but it was hard for me to get onto. I had to have reviews and was a member of DateCheck before they approved my account.

    Those are the only two screening sites I use now, and have found guys Ive looked up on blacklists there.
    Im thinking this part got skimmed over in my post, so just re-quoting it for you to see...

    The con of NBL, to me, sharing personal information about another escort is a pretty valid con.
    It does have an extensive blacklist I suppose, as I have heard of other ladies finding guys on there, but in the month that I had it, I did not find anyone on there.

    On the other hand, like I mentioned, both on VerifyHim and ProviderBuzz, I found guys on the blacklists there, and why it wasnt too hard to let NBL go, because the same guys were not listed on there.

    Both NationalBlacklist and ProviderBuzz are strictly blacklists which show reports others have written about guys they have had issues with.
    In addition to a blacklist, VerifyHim offers information such as other sites that the guys email address is associated with, such as his facebook account, escort sites, message boards and even dating sites he may be a member of. It also gives information like how long that email address has been active, and lists information for the given phone number, such as the registered name on the account, and what phone service hes using. Collectively, its pretty good screening info.

    For what it is, ProviderBuzz does not have any cons that I can think of.
    The only con I have for VerifyHim is that you get a certain amount of search credits, and sometimes when Im especially busy and have a lot of guys to check out, the credits run out.

    Really though, I gave you info...but trying it out for yourself and seeing what suits your needs is the best possible way to find out what works for you.
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    I used to ask guys if they had any special requests, but I stopped because that seemed to open up the door to asking for all sorts of things that I really didnt feel like doing. If a guy really wants something though, they still ask and Im more than happy to accommodate if possible.

    As for carrying supplies, if you walk into a bust, youre going down whether you have anything on you or not...sure it will build a stronger case, but just being there is a case in and of itself. So thats not something to be too worried about if you are strict on screening and do everything in your power to protect yourself before you walk into your date.

    My only musts are a couple sizes of condoms, lube, lip gloss, hair brush and mouthwash. Anything else has to be specifically requested, and generally they ask for stuff like a certain bra/panty set they saw in one of my pics, or stockings, or heels, or no heels or something like that. Only once has a guy asked me to bring toys, which he paid for. Most times they want me to use toys on them, and its from their own collection that they provide themselves. I try to keep things light....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalypso View Post
    I only skimmed through the thread so I'm not sure if someone said this already but don't have anything on you that could indicate you offer sexual services. Condoms, toys, etc. They need to provide those things. On the phone, I used to tell them the cost of the activity (dinner bill, movie tickets, etc) will not be deducted from their donation and they are to provide any PROPS for our DATE.
    I strongly suggest NEVER letting the client provide the condoms, gloves, dams, or toys.

    Only a few locations in the US have laws indicating they can use you carrying condoms as evidence of prostitution, and even then those laws are a) often challenged and b) cover issues such as quantity, etc.

    When I'm in sex educator mode or at a con, I have to laugh knowing my huge bag stuffed full of sex toys and dozens of condoms is something I'd never carry in such a way in my other work. Don't be obvious - but carry everything you need reasonably and discreetly.

    Clients often do not know about toy sterilization (especially between individuals using the toy), material allergies, how to choose materials that are safe for the body and won't make your pink parts freak out... They also will frequently store condoms improperly (in their wallets, hot cars, etc.) or will quite unknowingly bring condoms that are useless for STI prevention, like Naturalamb condoms.

    Bring your own barriers, toys, safer sex supplies. Carry reasonable and limited quantities in your purse, arrange what's inside so that you can open it up discreetly if need be (I use makeup cases - also handy for being discreet at TSA checks. TSA agents can open/unzip them without flashing a bunch of sex goodies to the world), but no one will watch out for your bodily health like you, and even your kindest regulars will often simply not be as aware of what to do as we are.
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    Woah! I totally missed that!! Yes, DEFINITELY bring your own condoms and any toys if you use them!! Jeez, these guys will try all sorts of wacky things, no way Im going to trust any date of mine to handle my protection! Eep!

    I carry two condoms each regular and magnum into a date. If Ive seen the guy before, I know what size he needs and will just carry the size I need. Ive only once ran out of condoms (not cause of action, but um...high blood pressure medication issues, apparently lol) and since he already burned through the two that were his size, he got my "well, looks like we're done with that activity! look...Its for my own peace of mind too, that if I end up with some guy who is going to try and go for more than 2 rounds, hes out of luck.
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    Very valid points! I never thought about it like that. Whenever clients brought me toys they were always brand new in the package though. Never had a problem but I could see how that could potentially be an issue if certain materials aggravate you? I tried to clarify in my second post by saying ample condoms, you know an amount that your average person wouldn't just happen to have on them. I always keep a few on me whether I'm working or not. Anyway, I say all this because I got busted before. Never confessed, but having toys and a big grocery bag full of condoms on my person, plus the content (damn acros) on my website was all used against me. I had a really good lawyer though so it didn't end too badly. Escorting without a license, paid a fine, no biggie. Still, I just think it could've gone much worse. Should I start escorting again, which I'm debating, it would ease my mind not to have that on me.
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    I bring a big bag with me. A lot of guys get excited because they are like "wow what is in there" keeps the imagination that you might have toys etc.. But my bag consists of a good selection of condoms, toys, lingerie, panties, I use "good head" which helps with oral. I also have an extra pair of heels. The reason I bring lingerie is sometimes I'll show regulars different choices of what I'll wear.

    I'm sure you'll be fine! Good luck!

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