I love how we have so many armchair anthropologists here.





I love how we have so many armchair anthropologists here.




I need to have someone recap this for me.. i'm having trouble reading some of the posts....







Oh I'm no armchair anthropologist, I'm just tired of men using the excuse that they want younger women because of fertility. First off not everyone wants kids (and there are people in this thread alone who do not want kids)so that is an excuse men use. For those who want kids, it's as much their fault as it is the woman's for waiting to find someone. I think it boils down to this unexplained delusion some men have. I remember reading that men overrate themselves online and women underrate.





Men want younger women because they are hotter. Men think younger women are hotter because our brain interprets fertility as beauty. There is a big difference between the two. You seem really bitter about this for some reason, what do you care what men want? Believe it or not women are not as interested in physical looks as men, it is very common to see younger women with older established men.
"Well done. Here are the test results: You are a horrible person. I'm serious, that's what it says: 'A horrible person.' We weren't even testing for that."





No you seem bitter yourself and I'm not bitter when I see men wanting younger. I am mostly annoyed when men think they can get better when they can't. Just because a man THINKS he can get younger doesn't mean he can. I know as a woman who looks much younger than my age I think it is repulsive when disgusting older men hit on me, thinking they are too good for the women their age.
Oh and don't kid yourself and think women don't judge by looks. We do and the hotter the woman is the more likely this is. I find men who are obese, and sloppy (whether fat or not)repulsive. But keep thinking men can be as disgusting as they want and can get the hottest women as they do on the online sites and I'll keep laughing when they are single years later complaining about women. Btw the reason you see younger women with wealthier older men (and notice it is never average income or below average income men)is because they want things from them. How do I know? because in my 20's I dated a few older men because they could spend money on me in ways the younger men couldn't. I never loved any of them. That's why you see for the most part younger women with older men, because they can spoil them. Oh sure in SOME cases that isn't true, but that could be said in other instances too. However with women often making what men do now you are seeing older women with younger men because guess what? younger men are way hotter than older men.
My mom's friend is in her 60's and recently met a good quality man during an organized hiking trip. He's very fit and has a stable career and after dating for a few months they're set to be engaged. Her daughters are in their late 20's and 30's and still single.
The lady who is in her 60's has an ex husband who I'm assuming used his status as an MD to pull some younger women. Two of them were women from overseas who used him to get citizenship and ended up leaving his ass. The other used him for awhile..ended up leaving his ass as well. His money wasn't enough to keep these younger women around that's for sure. There's plenty of gold diggers where I live and I have met a couple who were out with their saggy balled men and the women have hinted that they have sidepieces which I think is kind of hilarious. I do believe that women DO care about a man's appearance more than guys would like to think.
Those are all personal experiences though and my point is, I really think you'd have better luck meeting healthy minded individuals while out and about during organized social functions. Meetup.com groups host single events for individuals who are forty and up. If I'm forty and single..I'll probably be out doing that myself (:





I meet much better men at various social events and out and about. The online sites do not work for me because they seem to attract bottom of the barrel men. What is odd is that these sites have attractive women who are are single and complaining the men their age bypasses them. My only problem though with attending some of these events is I will meet a guy then find out he has kids and that's a dealbreaker. At least with online they usually say if they have kids or not (this is my strict dealbreaker).
I actually don't have a problem meeting men out and about, my main annoyance is the older men who approach me in public places and online. I tell them no but they persist. They seem to think that all women want older men, especially older ugly men and they think I am playing games with them.





Not really. Different ppl want/like different things. There are girls like me who need visual stimulation, just like men. I need to be physically attracted to someone in order for me to sleep with him. That's number one. I wish I was one of those girls who didn't give a shit about looks, but I just can't.
Then there are men who really don't care about dating women their age or a little older, & aren't into dating someone their child's age(not knocking it, just saying).
BOTM, thanks.That guy didn't get a rise out of me. Nothing idiot customers say gets to me anyway. I was just really shocked that someone pushing 50(or is 50?) would tell me 30 is a "tad old" for his preference. Fkn crazy. LOL.
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Agreed. I was called bitter but am tired of dealing with these much older men who think I would be flattered they were interested. I mean we are not talking hot and or rich guys here, but rather unappealing men. This idea that older women aren't hot anymore is rather disturbing, especially coming from men who are nothing. I too judge men on looks and if he's not someone I feel attracted to I can't date. The funny thing is at events I get hit on by younger men so I can't be that repulsive.





Maybe a regional thing too. Where i'm at, you'll see beautiful older women with these hot actor/model looking younger men. I have met plenty of men who prefer older. My exbf also preferred older women... I was the youngest he's had(I'm a year younger).
Again, everyone is different with their own preferences. I wouldn't put too much thought into those men who frustrate you either. Remember, positive thinking/LAO. hehe![]()





I see some of those older women/younger men relationships too and the ironic thing? I get contacted more on the dating sites by 30 year old men than I do 40 year olds, and I don't think all of them are looking for sex. I might feel a bit weird dating much younger because what would we have in common? My mom and many friends of mine suggested younger men because I am a very young 41 and these might be good guys so I am keeping options open. My best boyfriend was 3 years younger. Oh and far better looking than the 40 year olds who are telling me I am too old.
I read someone said that the older men were probably assholes when they were younger and women still dated them.
This is not always the case. They were probably great guys when they were young but when age comes around some of these men still felt they could attract any women meanwhile they are drinking too many beers and not working out. Now they hit 50 and are fat. They still see that hot young stud when they look in the mirror even though they have to put their belt on the last hole. So they go out there trying to hit on the hottest women and when they get turned down, they get pissed off. I mean the nasty , angriest comments come out of their mouths like they are OWED something. This attitude probably started at late 40's but it continues on. They are also the guys that are the most critical of a woman's looks even though that mirror should have been broken years ago with what they were putting in front of it. They are rocking the comb over and still think they are all kinds of sexy. It's just that fucked up. Now if I get to their age maybe I'll find them attractive who knows. I can't really say what a woman at 70 is attracted to.
Women on the other hand are always concerned about their own looks, so they tend to keep up with the latest procedures, be it creams, medspa, plastic surgery. Women will always find ways to stay looking as young as possible. Older men don't actually follow these same rituals so once shit gets out of hand they don't do anything to correct it. They may start with some Cherrios after almost having a heart attack but that's about it. They may not even be able to see their dicks past their stomach so instead they bend alittle and say yup I still got it.
Why the warped sense of reality is so prevalent in older men is beyond me. Since I started camming I wondered this myself. When you have a guy trying to give you his number and he has to be around 70 and you're thinking wtf? Why the hell would I call you on my free fucking time? Do you have mirrors in your house? WTF are the putting in that heart medication? Or you hear a guy in the same age range get all frustrated because he says he's looking for love and your thinking " where has this man been for the last 50 years or was he in a fallout shelter and just surfaced?" Seriously some of these men come off seem mentally unstable.
These men have had full complete lives before I was even thought of being born, I feel it's only fair for them to date women that more so resemble their own life experiences to have some sort of connection and common ground. Can you imagine being younger than some guys kids? Or his kids already having a family of their own? I just find it bordering on the pedophilia. Now I know they are still interested in someone of age but still you have to think that this person was probably working on their 3rd child since the 1st one was already off to college meanwhile your head is still translucent, you have a tail and your hands and feet haven't even developed yet. How does that not make people slightly gag at the thought? EWW
5-10 is the safe range. He's older has abit more experience and still open to teach and learn.


Bottom line: go with your gut instinct. If you get a bad feeling about an older man, then steer clear. If you enjoy spending time with him, then good for you. I'm sick of people trying to make it sound sick. Just go with what feels right, not what feels "logical" or "socially acceptable".





Agreed, though I think this sense of entitlement many men have starts even younger. I am an attractive 41, I look and act much younger and have no wrinkles at all. In fact if you met me you may wonder if I was mid 20's or so and a few months ago the librarian asked me if I was still in college because I looked that young to her. I have put on weight due to laziness but I am losing it and plan to be at a stripper body close to summer. Even so, I am still not overweight, just heavier than I was, but this is still thinner than many men my age. As women we are told we need to "settle" and take anything we can get but men are told they can have whatever woman they want. Men see all the fat guy/hot wife shows and think that is normal when it's not. In reality they are more likely to have a wife who's fat too.
A lot of people don't get why this bothers me and think I am bitter which is not the case. I just want the type of guy I feel I should have, and not have to take some reject. I shouldn't have to date an old man, or an obese old man because the guys my age, both attractive and not attractive are seeking younger women who don't want them. I've actually started searching for younger attractive men (and in fact are meeting several interested in me)because to be blunt if an unattractive older man can search younger so can an attractive woman.
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Actually it's socially acceptable for an old man to hit on a young women. The people that think is sick are actually going against society. Some of these older men are trying to follow behind successful older men that can do this because of well their success in life , finance, share holdings. If the guy is old he has to generally have money, success or celebrity status. If it's not one of those then he'll be lying through his poligrip hoping she'll believe him.
my Bf will be 38 n a few months and im 24 i don't think age matters : ) i love him he's mature where he needs to be but has a goofy side to him, Were really compatible! i can't date guys even near my age i don't like younger guys.
Actually I noticed that too. I grew up watching sitcoms where the husband was grossly overweight but the wife was a size 2. Never understood that. Now I will admit that women are more forgiving on looks but generally these men had to start from a decent place to begin with. What I think happens is that they probably cheat get caught and get divorced. Now they are starting over and didn't appreciate what they had. Maybe that's what's going on. Maybe I should take a gerontology class to get some insight. It just seems bizarre and there has to be more to it than this. I noticed this on the sugar daddy blogs too. The guys there boast to such a degree and when you see what they look like. It's like wtf? You want someone to fuck you for $1000 a month 10 days and maybe 6 hours a day? All while being married ? Who in their right mind....
No KellyD I don't think you're bitter. I just think you're annoyed. I'm not dating really right now. But if I was I'd probably be annoyed too. I remember a guy put a lower age on his profile because the site bared seriously older men from contacting younger women. He did put his real age on his profile but he was old fat and ugly. Now I still needed to hear this guy out since I felt he was pretty bold. He puts his number in a message only. Really? Arrogant much? I thought it was funny but I said I just had to hear this guy out.
So I contact him and said why did you contact me. He's like well you're attractive blah blah. So I said thanks but you're XXX age I can't remember what it was but if the site bared him he was old. So I said ok maybe this guy is joking this isn't for real. So he goes and says he's in show biz " YAAAWWWN". LOL Right that's why you're on a dating site? Can't they find some starlet for you to fuck to get a part? lol Anyways the guy continues on trying to talk himself up. I was like wow giving me the sales pitch. So I start telling him about the music I like and the clubs I go to . Now I knew this was not his thing but I wanted to show him " we have nothing in common old man". lol So he's like yeah clubs aren't my thing. I was like ooh well , guess we can't go out ha! He's like well how about you come over, I have a nice place blah blah blah ... going on like I was interviewing him for Better Homes and Garden. Who cares right??? He's offering me a erotic massage. Lol Wow how could I pass up the chance to be molested by grandpa. I told him nah that's not my thing. He's like the way I see it is that it's a benefit for you. I mean I'm the one that's not getting the benefit. Lol I was like how about you keep your hands to yourself and come out to one of these clubs. lol I know I'm mean right? lol He looses it starts saying " you women all act like your pussies are all that" If I was a woman I would be selling it. These girls over her get $50 bucks. Huh? excuse me? Yeah guy fucking lost it and got nasty fast just because I turned down his molestation. I said well if it's just $50 bucks then why are we even talking. Have fun, I'm going out to dance. Night.!
This was just the best. I was really curious to hear what the old guy really had to say. What common ground of life experiences did we have? Instead it was more like a pedophile trying to lure me out. Creepy. But I had a good laugh. I mean how he tried to make his molestation sound like I was going to benefit from it. That was the best bullshitting ever.
True Story.





Was that a sugar daddy site? I haven't dealt with those, but am doing the online sites and the amount of guys much older contacting me amazes and astounds me all the time. The funny thing is one of the paid dating sites has a section just for women where women voice their frustrations and this is by far the biggest complaint. The funny thing is every single one of these women is very attractive yet men their age are rejecting them from about late 30's and up. The men who are rejecting them also have photos and they aren't worth a 25 year old, they aren't even worth women their age. It's bad enough being rejected by men at their level but being rejected by overweight men is even worse. Then these same men complain they can't find a wife. Well duh if you didn't reject women your age.




I just turned 25 and my boyfriend is 38. We met on Spain in a salad bar -- we were both there for Sonar festival jetlagged as hell and both alone and he just started talking to me, asking what I was writing in my book. From there we bonded over fibonacci ratios, pattern recognition, philosophy, economics, electronic music, various other nerdy shit.
We were crossing the street and about to part and If you ask him to tell the story he'll say that I said something like "abstract narrative" and he was sold. Ha
From there we hung out almost every day in barcelona and ended up traveling all over together. We didn't get together right away and I'm happy that we waited to sleep together because it subconsciously confirmed that he wasn't just in it for sex.
Although he's 13 years older he looks a lot older so we don't get too much judgement. But it's interesting because we both acknowledge that had we not met under such weird circumstances we may not have given one another a shot and/or would have been way more hung up on the age thing.
I can't see myself ever dating someone in their 20s after this. I am just not attracted to younger guys.
Also some of the shit that girls I know put up with from young guys makes me shake my head with amazement. 25 year olds are the new 16 year olds.





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