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    Default Does anyone NOT working on SM make a decent income?

    I keep reading how SM has a lot of traffic and how girls are making good money on their site....BUT considering they are good for recording and distributing private shows as well as a glitchy Geo/Block feature I'm having second thoughts to working there... :S

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    Default Re: Does anyone NOT working on SM make a decent income?

    Yes with hard work.
    Lots of hours online , lots of patience and never ending improvement on one's.. acting skills.

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    Default Re: Does anyone NOT working on SM make a decent income?

    Of course there is. I know some girls on here and others off site who have never even worked Streamate and bank hardcore.


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    Default Re: Does anyone NOT working on SM make a decent income?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fridays View Post
    Yes with hard work.
    Lots of hours online , lots of patience and never ending improvement on one's.. acting skills.
    That last part made me LOL haha...

    Quote Originally Posted by EvilChick1989 View Post
    Of course there is. I know some girls on here and others off site who have never even worked Streamate and bank hardcore.
    Ok cool...I was getting the impression that SM is where all the $$ is these days...I'll take my chances elsewhere

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    Default Re: Does anyone NOT working on SM make a decent income?

    Never worked for Streamate. I make a living (and extra) working on MFC. I live in Los Angeles, so a "living" here is double what most people pay.
    I thought about doing SM as well, but I'm afraid most guys want hardcore shows. Plus, if I'm doing well on MFC, I don't want to take time/energy away from that.

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    Default Re: Does anyone NOT working on SM make a decent income?

    I work on MFC (only) and average about 100$/hour, though I can't really understand the allure of SM. Perhaps I should it a whirl

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    If you want to really bank, you find out how to work the most sites at once
    Yes, I'm real.

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    I know girls who do well on rude, naked, livejasmin, ifriends and cams.com its a matter of finding a site that works for you and sticking to it.
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    Default Re: Does anyone NOT working on SM make a decent income?

    Quote Originally Posted by santanaslz View Post
    I keep reading how SM has a lot of traffic and how girls are making good money on their site....BUT considering they are good for recording and distributing private shows as well as a glitchy Geo/Block feature I'm having second thoughts to working there... :S
    SM is my backup backup site. Meaning if my other 2 sites are dead or if I'm in a good mood then I'll work SM. I can make money on SM but it feels like I work harder to make the same amount of money. But it can be good when it's good. I probably don't work SM any more than 10 hours a week.

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    Default Re: Does anyone NOT working on SM make a decent income?

    Quote Originally Posted by FloraBell View Post
    I'm exclusively on mfc, and making good $ by my standards. It's only been four months and it takes time to build up to a good stable of regulars/good income there, but I think it's worth it. I was thisclose to doing Streamate, was approved and everything and ready to roll, then saw one of the top girls' entire Gold Show on xhamster. I was like 'her whole Gold Show? Really? Those fukkin bastards!' So I abandoned the streamate plan. So, to answer your question, yes, I am making a decent income on a non-streamate site. About twice what I need every month to live here in a large midwestern city. Hopefully it'll continue, knock on wood! Good luck with whatever you decide!!!
    Do you think that you won't be registered on MFC?

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    Default Re: Does anyone NOT working on SM make a decent income?

    Streamate is the site you have to work the hardest on IMO. So, yes.

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    Default Re: Does anyone NOT working on SM make a decent income?

    I wish I could do MFC. I tried it and only made about 10 tokens every time I was on (2 hour per login). Tried doing privates too but it kept logging me out when I accepted them so I gave up =( Plus my cam score dropped to 856. Blah! I make at least $100/hour on SM though. If you wanna stay away from there you always have MGF and C4S. I make a lot on MGF because of the demand for customs and am opening my C4S store this month. Hope you find something that works great for you!

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    I am really thinking about leaving SM, I use to love it but with all the beggars, and time wasters, and spoiled-rotten-broke-ass customers...and waiting to go private or pulling teeth to reach my damn GOLD show goal has been quite exhausting...I have been doing MFC for about 2 days and it's growing on me...I no longer feel burned out afterwards and time flies because I am enjoying it and making tips in the process...SM may very well become my back-up site...





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    Default Re: Does anyone NOT working on SM make a decent income?

    Im With SM but working on clips. MFC was the second site for a while but there is a shelf life that expired for me even though I did really well when I was popular. I can deal with SM because it was my first site almost 2yrs ago but camming is taking a toll on me period so Im trying to split it up.

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    Default Re: Does anyone NOT working on SM make a decent income?

    Quote Originally Posted by FloraBell View Post
    then saw one of the top girls' entire Gold Show on xhamster. I was like 'her whole Gold Show? Really? Those fukkin bastards!'
    I'm not really sure how this is worse than MFC? On MFC girls do PUBLIC FREE HARDCORE SHOWS while HOPING they get tips, all while literally HUNDREDS of freeloaders sit by and watch... without paying a dime. In fact this is expected on MFC, you will be hard pressed to make anything on that site without performing for free.

    It's just kinda funny that you would rule out streamate because a gold show got posted on some porn site, yet your main site is one that promotes the entire downfall of private shows and camming how it has traditionally been.

    But I mean, yah, you can totally bank on other sites. Here's how:

    1. work so much your pussy falls off
    2. perform for free

    Of course, it's different for every girl. Some girls do great on other sites. For me personally, I'm staying with SM. It's all a personal preference.
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    Default Re: Does anyone NOT working on SM make a decent income?

    Sarah said it all.

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    Default Re: Does anyone NOT working on SM make a decent income?

    Niteflirt can bring in good cash. I know of many people who solely work NF.



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    Quote Originally Posted by PippySweet View Post
    'Does anyone NOT working on SM make a decent income?'

    Absolutely! I work exclusively on AW and consistently earn £80-120 an hour, usually the upper end of that. That's about $190 according to Google. It's nicer than some other sites since you can do exclusively private shows if you like, so you don't have 100s of people watching and potentially recording you. It also has the option to provide other content, so I also make about £15 a day from people viewing my galleries and such. Plus the people seem to be lovely, I can honestly say I've not had anyone say anything nasty to me, though I've only been camming a few months. I used to do Cam4. Ugh, never again.
    What is AW?

    I have had the hardest time on MFC. I just dont buy into high school popularity and am not really good at patience with the idiot free loaders on there. I have tried to get regulars on there for almost 3 months. Sometimes I make 50 a hour on a good time but I feel like I put SO much energy into the free chat it just kills me and its degrading. I refuse to do public shows as well, I think that kills it for all the models and myself. ( just my opinion). Its like I might of gotten known as the bitch on there cause now Ill be lucky if one or two guys stay in my room at a time... I just use MFC as a back up but still am trying to find a site that has the freedom that one does in some regards its nice.....very late here sorry for the rant...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lenire View Post
    What is AW?
    Hey, I've sent you a private. AW is Adultwork.com. It's pretty great

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    Default Re: Does anyone NOT working on SM make a decent income?

    I always felt like SM worked for those who just look like celebrities. I watch a lot of the cams on there and see people doing really well however I log on and RARELY do I get a show and they are never very long. I've even tinkered with my rate and it still doesn't seem to matter. SM, albeit I'm not on there regularly, has been one of the only sites that I have a hard time getting repeat visitors on. I do the Fetish/Domme thing and occasionally will get a good show with a hardcore fetishist but overall it's not my main site.

    Also I would love to do a Gold show and have all the criteria met for it but it's not giving me the option. This irritates me. I'm sure girls make bank doing those.

    MFC is the bane of my cam existence. Tip sites never work for me. As an alternative curvy girl thats not a thin, tanned, blonde, I don't get hordes of men in my room and generally am lucky with 20 viewers and only 2 of them having tips. I don't like begging for tips but I would sit there and get nothing if I didn't remind them. Surprisingly I do get some private shows on there which just reminds me to stick on sites that are more directed towards private shows. MFC to me is like a guy who owns a nice car taking a road trip and enjoying his time but he has to cart around a bunch of people in his car because they just happen to be going the same place and they refuse to chip in on gas with the reasoning "Well, you are driving there anyways...". Make sense?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LolaBohemia View Post
    I always felt like SM worked for those who just look like celebrities.
    I do great on there, and I don't look like a celebrity! In order to do well with any site you have to be online regularly. Since I started on SM last summer, I haven't spent any less than 10 hours online, with a couple exceptions. There were a couple weeks that I took off, but for the most part I am online AT LEAST 10-20 hours per week, and working on getting up to 30 hrs online per week. It takes time, dedication, and hard work but that is true for any site.

    My best advice is to try one site, stick it out, and give it a shot before moving to another one.
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    I agree with Sarah..it's all trial and error with cam sites. I did really, really, well on IMLive before SM completely took over. I feel like if IMLive had done a better job of paying people, picking good payment processors, stopped their ridiculous charge backs, and had better customer service for the models.. it could have stayed a competitor because it had so many awesome features. Now it just sucks.

    My earnings over there depleted a lot over time. I am BBW and I was pulling in a shitload of money from IMLive.. without putting more than 5-10 hrs in a week.. hella money. Then, I started getting chargebacks like once a week! Which is when I found stripperweb (anyone that's worked for IMLive knows that the 'model forum' is like Nazi Germany) and signed up for Streamate (among many others), but I also learned a lot about doing independent camming.. which is like 75% of my income now. I do way better indie than on any site... at least now. When I first started SM (after I pretty much hung up my shoes at IMLIVE) I was making a lot of money, too! Like money was just flying at me. But then it too, slowed down.

    But- because of stripperweb I learned a shitload about making money elsewhere. I joined clips4sale, found my own payment processor, started my own indie site, joined Second Life, and just started promoting the shit out of myself. This also led me to finding some really, really, good indie customers. I no longer depend on mainstream sites for income. I will, at some point, return to mainstream camming.. and I will try out Streamate again, because regardless of them selling and recording your shows (which they will ALL do), they pay on time.. and the traffic is pretty decent and paying. MFC is just not for me. I think MFC is definitely geared more towards like 'college cutie' girls.

    Definitely try out more than just one site. Throw your fear of being recorded out the window- it's going to happen. It just is. We've had many discussions about that issue here... but every job has it's down side and unfortunately the adult industry is full of them. Dedicated time and effort is what pays in the end.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SarahTime View Post
    I do great on there, and I don't look like a celebrity! In order to do well with any site you have to be online regularly. Since I started on SM last summer, I haven't spent any less than 10 hours online, with a couple exceptions. There were a couple weeks that I took off, but for the most part I am online AT LEAST 10-20 hours per week, and working on getting up to 30 hrs online per week. It takes time, dedication, and hard work but that is true for any site.

    My best advice is to try one site, stick it out, and give it a shot before moving to another one.
    I agree! I only started back on SM at the beginning of February 2012 and I am already at the top of the page.... I usually fall a few spots behind Sarah but regardless, I am at the top! Only took me a couple of weeks of hustling to get there too. I definitely don't look like a celebrity.

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    Default Re: Does anyone NOT working on SM make a decent income?

    I make the majority of my income working indy / "semi-indy" and actually earn more than I ever did putting in long hours on a big site.

    I have gotten a bit spoiled to always earning atleast 50% or more. I cant stand knowing that the site im working on earned more from my show than I did.
    I do understand they have overhead to pay.. So I dont knock them. I just know that I tend to do better and feel better about working for myself.

    Granted, I used to have a site that was ranked in the top of google which got me a LOT of clients.

    Now that I have taken that site down, I still kinda 'live' off the clients I got just from having that site and slowly add new regulars to my list.

    The key is repeat business (For me anyway)

    I just go down the list of spenders and let them know that I want to play. Generally I am able to line up at least a few shows a day. And since I earn more of the cut, I have to do less shows to make my bills and spending cash.

    In my opinion, big box sites are best for just starting out and getting a feel for the business. Once I had my 'personality' and learned my 'script/general responses' how to deal with clients vs time wasters, and nail that show with minimal conversation. I was ready to branch out on my own and I am SOOO glad I did! Honestly, If i was stuck to only sites like MFC or Streamate, I wouldnt cam at all anymore. It is just too much work dealing with free chat all the time, and then getting less than half when I do make that sale. =x


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