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    Hello girls.

    I have been lurking on here since I started camming, almost 2 years now but I never signed up because I was insecure about camming and didn't feel like I could share any useful tips or info with the girls here. Now, 2 years later I hope my company is being appreciated here.

    I am a european fulltime cam model and stream on multiple websites at once.
    I'm looking for more websites to cam on to get a higher income (my income is fine, but after a while you get addicted to easy money making and get greedy, at least, I do)
    but all I could find were websites like MFC, LJ, SM etc where you have to be in freechat and pretty much spend your time waiting for someone to pay up.

    I work on 3 cam sites that don't allow free chat, you make a profile and if someone want to chat to you, they have to pay up.
    Works fine, I make a lot of money on those websites and no time is wasted on freeloaders. Also you can stay anonymous instead of having to show your face like IM and MFC requires.

    I was wondering if you girls know any websites that don't have free chat and don't require to show face (or have the option to block countries).
    I prefer using splitcam on websites like that so you can show the goodies, without rewarding the freeloaders and still making good money.
    I've been going through the forum for days and all I could find where websites with freechat, MGF kind of websites or websites without any traffic.

    If this topic is out of place of inappropriate then I am terribly sorry.

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    Default Re: No more free chatsK

    It's often the case of choosing between free/ non free, or traffic...
    Last edited by MissKatie; 01-28-2012 at 03:24 PM.

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    But you're not allowed to show nudity in SM free chat right?
    I want an other website to add to my splitcam so I can stay on the websites I am on right now without freechat because I'm earning good money, without feeding the freeloaders and not making anything on those websites.

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    Default Re: No more free chatsK

    camwithher.com
    nudeadultcams.com

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    Default Re: No more free chatsK

    Hi Mila, if you;re earning good on your current sites, why bother going on other sites?

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    Default Re: No more free chatsK

    Mila, maybe you could share the names of the sites that you use, that are so good. xx

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    Default Re: No more free chatsK

    There's a list of cam sites without mandatory free chat here.
    "If I can't dance, I don't want to be part of your revolution." ~ Emma Goldman

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    I think I'd be bored to death without the free chat..
    I kinda love it...

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlakeDahlia View Post
    There's a list of cam sites without mandatory free chat here.
    Thank you so much!

    Quote Originally Posted by Fridays View Post
    I think I'd be bored to death without the free chat..
    I kinda love it...
    Nah, I have a lot of viewers in my paid chatbox, so I kind of feel silly going back to a busy free chat.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fridays View Post
    Hi Mila, if you;re earning good on your current sites, why bother going on other sites?
    I am making good money, but more money is always welcome and chatting on 3 websites at once has become routine after almost 2 years so
    I could take one or 2 more non-free-chat websites and make more money and work less hours.

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    Default Re: No more free chatsK

    what sites are you using now?

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    I bet she;s not going to say

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    Default Re: No more free chatsK

    Comes here to gather info, but is too selfish to give up the sites she is making so much money on. OK

    Hope OUR generosity helped you. LOL


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    Quote Originally Posted by JuliAnne333 View Post
    Comes here to gather info, but is too selfish to give up the sites she is making so much money on. OK

    Hope OUR generosity helped you. LOL
    .....
    Last edited by LAChloe; 01-28-2012 at 04:43 PM.

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    Default Re: No more free chatsK

    Sorry girls if it looked like I didn't want to share anything, just read through the policies of the websites I use if non european / dutch girls are allowed to sign up.


    I work on Xmodels
    No free chat.
    Same as islive, you'll hear a noise when someone enters.
    You get 20 cents per minute, per viewer.
    They pay every 14 days.
    It's ridiculously busy on this website, speaking English is no problem at all.
    If girls sign up through you, you get 100 euro per model bonus.
    (only for dutch, belgian, german, french, italian, canadian or uk models)
    If someone from those countries is interested in signing up, send me a PM.
    I will give you my username and I'm willing to give you 50% (50 euro) of my bonus.

    I work on IS LIVE
    Is live is a Dutch website. (Link above is the English version of the website).
    Talking English is no problem at all.
    No free chat, you will hear a bell when someone enters you room so just minimilise it and do something for yourself.
    It pays 0.18 cents a minute per viewer. I personally have about 4 - 8 people in my room at once.
    Most viewers have a paid wallet and then you get 0.22 cents a minute, per viewer.
    It doesn't sound much, but with about 5 guys in your room it's still 1 euro per minute.
    You can promote yourself (it automatically gives you a free website) and if you chat with people who came into your room through your personal link you get 0,48 cents per viewer per minute.
    If they chat with an other girl through your promo link, you still get 0,30 per minute, per viewer.

    I also work on club-sense.nl but they only accept dutch speaking models.
    But dutch girls, google club-sense, they pay 0,40 a minute and pay weekly.

    I'm also busy with signing up for an other Dutch website, the one with the biggest traffic, but I couldn't find their privacy policy
    so when I get that emailed to me and it's okay I will definatly share it here.
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    20 cents per minute...... ? That's umm... i don't quite know what to say about that.

    Those are both studios I believe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MissKatie View Post
    20 cents per minute...... ? That's umm... i don't quite know what to say about that.

    Those are both studios by the way in case anyone didn't know.
    Keep in mind it's 20 euro cents, not dollars.
    Like I said, 20cents might not sound like a lot, but xmodels is ridiculously busy the entire day.
    I almost always have at least 3 people in my chat, in the evening I usually have 8.
    Also, xmodels allows you to have one2one and I charge 80 cents a minute in one2one and get a lot of men who wants privates
    and the other men usually stay as voyeurs. So when I'm in a one2one I usually make about 2 euro a minute.

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    Default Re: No more free chatsK

    hi Milaa thanks for sharing the sites you work on. (I'm interested in possibly working for sites based in Europe). So just for clarification US Models cannot work on xmodels but can work for is live?

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    Islive accepts models / couples worldwide.
    xmodels says they want to recruit local models, so I assume US models can work for xmodels but I wouldn't get a bonus for telling you about xmodels.

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    20 euro cents is 16p in UK. Bear in mind most UK models are charging upwards of £1.50 per min, so this is not really good for us. Also, it's not worth any model going through a studio unless they are forced to. The cut is too big, and there is no need when you can sign up to sites direct -

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    MissK- she said she was splitcamming multiple sites. How do you know these are studios? I am so bad at recognizing studios! LOL

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    I do think the draw backs with Euro sites is that they only pay you once a month and it takes like 5 weeks to get. I could be wrong though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LAChloe View Post
    I do think the draw backs with Euro sites is that they only pay you once a month and it takes like 5 weeks to get. I could be wrong though.
    Yes, it's a whole month before they even send the money and then usually a couple more weeks to actually get it.


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    Speaking of free chat.....as much as I love MFC, I have to admit that I feel like I can breathe a sigh of relief on my MFC "off" days, such as tonight. This is because, on those off days, I can focus on the non-mandatory-free chat sites while doing other things. I can be on my bed watching a t.v. show online with my light off, and then immediately turn my light on when I get buzzed for a private show. I love it.
    My referral link for models to join the Boleyn Models daily pay program
    https://cammodelpay.com/ref?page=&campaign=&affToken=NDcx

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    From XModels:

    "Over the years, we’ve built up a massive promotional network and work with highly successful partner sites (e.g. Webcamsex.nl, Cambabes.be, Live-webcams.co.uk, Xcams.com, Cams2enjoy.com, Camcandy.com, and many more). Up to now, we’ve already registered more than 25 000 webcam models (August 2011)! But we are always open for more models..."

    ^^ STUDIO!

    From Roast's wonderful posts on how to avoid studios:

    How do I know I am signing up with a studio and not the site directly?

    Most BIG TRAFFIC cam websites do not post job ads. If you see job ads calling for webcam models on sexyjobs, backpage, adultjobs, in classifieds, cityvibe, craigslist, on twitter, on stripperweb even... then it is almost always a studio. A multi-million dollar company does not need to troll boards for one possible signup.

    Other signs you're dealing with a webcam studio:
    1. Unsolicited offer: If you get an email or tweet out of the blue to join a mega website - they are probably a studio.
    2. Personal attention: If you are getting a lot of personal attention
    3. Key words: Look for words like - recruiter, promotions, studio, agency, representative, training, in their emails and on their website. Also studios seem to love TYPING IN CAPSLOCKS and using exclamation points!!!!!
    4. Aggressiveness: you have to sign up NOW NOW. incessant emails asking why your application is not completed
    5. Payout percentages: if you're able to actually get them to answer how much you'll get paid (and real figures not like 'up to 10,000 a week!'), and the payout is under 30% - it is a studio. Some studios only charge 3-6% on top of the website's fees but MOST charge way more than that. Be aware that if your studio is justifying charging you more than 5-6% because they offer daily pay - there are cheaper alternatives with a better track record.
    6. Lack of straight answers, no real contract, get impatient if you ask too many questions: you get the runaround when you ask direct questions and they only respond with hype, personal stories, testimonies, pressure, and no real numbers. They may get defensive if you call them a studio and will try to use euphemisms like promo company. broadcasters or modeling agency. Also if they refuse to tell you what sites you appear on (and instead say something like "you'll get amazing traffic from our HUGE network"... their HUGE network btw are usually just white labels for the same site).
    7. They email you from a free domain: ie, gmail, aol, live, hotmail, etc.
    8. "Submit your pics to be considered": most mega sites are indiscriminate and only care if you're over 18 (except MFC and naked.com only take non-TS women). There is no real consideration process - the only 'consideration' they need is the ability to fulfill 2257 age verification requirements. This is a tactic to prey on the insecure, collect pictures, and to also make the company appear exclusive.
    9. Auditions: . This is gross but common practice for many studios and promo agencies. No "mega" cam site asks for an audition. Ever. Ever. Ever. Hell, no legitimate indie site does either.
    10. Domain whois / registry data: Do they have a godaddy or cheapdomains account? Was the site only registered within the past year or so? Can you see the full name of the person who registered the domain? They are probably a studio. For ex- this is the registry info for a big site, here is the registry info for a studio. Be aware that this is not foolproof, but it can confirm suspicions.
    11. Cyprus?: This is kind of a joke - but I was once contacted (unsolicited) by a studio and I asked them if they knew what 'cyprus' means. They did not know. I asked this because a bunch of mega sites have business stations in Cyprus. A real representative for a megasite would know Cyprus is a country where they have addresses registered. Well, they also would not be trolling camgirls on Yahoo...
    12. They'll say you don't *have* to get naked or do xxx: this is how they lure non-sexworkers in with the promise of "easy and fast money". Studios will not wait for you to build your non-nude brand independent of them. Doing non-nude or fetish requires heavy marketing, customer grooming, and patience - studios are allergic to all three of those things. Camming is, by & large, an adult entertainment job.
    13. Paypal: Paypal is not an adult-friendly service. No megasite pays you through paypal due to the legal risks. If a "modeling agency" is offering to pay you for your work through paypal they're a studio. Paypal regularly freezes accounts they suspect of adult transactions... "Freeze" means you won't get your money.
    14. We're former camgirls / female-run: this is a luring tactic to get you to sign up faster. if it is actually true: a studio is still a studio.

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    xmodels pays every 14 days, which is nice, but since I have a Dutch bank account, I couldn't say how long it would take for someone else to get it.

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